Forum proposals for Local Government boundaries

[lancyiain]

Feb 12, 2018 10:48:54 GMT East Anglian Lefty said:

Feb 9, 2018 12:19:25 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Sajid Javid isn't yet a forum member, but you never know.

Two council mergers in Suffolk have been approved: www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-02-08/HCWS462/

Suffolk Coastal and Waveney will merge to form East Suffolk
Forest Heath and St Edmundsbury will merge to form West Suffolk

Presumably there'll now be some pressure to take up the idea of the Babergh/Mid Suffolk merger, particularly since I seem to recall the referendum was only lost narrowly in whichever ever one of the two voted against.

There is. It has led to the fall of the Tory leader of Babergh since there was a revolt amongst Tory councillors over the idea of it going ahead without a new referendum. A couple of the rebels have since become independents. Another referendum seems sure to take place in Babergh, though as far as I know no timeframe has yet been set. Of course, they are already nearly merged, sharing a chief executive and many services. A merger seems off the table prior to the 2019 elections though.

I wonder if the merged council would be called South Suffolk.

[J.G.Harston]

This is my tweek of mirrorme's England:

[Foggy]

Feb 13, 2018 13:53:16 GMT J.G.Harston said:

This is my tweek of mirrorme's England

What does your map have to do with a character from South Park who has a nervous twitch due to a caffeine addiction? 

[East Anglian Lefty]

It strikes me you could create a fairly sensible metropolitan entity out of Wigan, Warrington and St. Helens (possibly adding Skelmersdale and perhaps Runcorn) based upon them being areas clearly affected by Manchester and Liverpool, but not inexorably in the orbit of either.

[Foggy]

Feb 14, 2018 1:00:59 GMT J.G.Harston said:

Feb 13, 2018 20:29:24 GMT Foggy said:

A decent effort, but quite apart from the points others have already raised, I simply will not accept the continued division of Sussex until such time as that county competes as two separate teams in the County Championship. 

By that argument Yorkshire should be a single county.

(Shouldn't we be doing this over in the Redrawn Local Government Boundaries thread?)

(Yes, we should.)

True, you can't always go by cricketing counties, but the Ridings still go back a lot further than the arbitrary West-East distinction in Sussex. The exact demarcation of the borders since the split have been less than consistent too!

[J.G.Harston]

Feb 13, 2018 22:15:48 GMT East Anglian Lefty said:

It strikes me you could create a fairly sensible metropolitan entity out of Wigan, Warrington and St. Helens (possibly adding Skelmersdale and perhaps Runcorn) based upon them being areas clearly affected by Manchester and Liverpool, but not inexorably in the orbit of either.

I think the M6 is too strong a boundary between Wigan and points west, and the M57 M62 between St Helens and points south. On my map I tweaked St Helens' west and east boundaries to follow the motorways, I think the southern boundary could be similarly tweaked depending on what orbit Burtonwood is in.

[islington]

I'm know I'm going to regret asking this, but ...

I can't help wondering, looking at this map, why special recognition is accorded to Reading when much more significant conurbations such as Bournemouth/Poole and the Medway towns are completely ignored.

[Deleted]

I have only given unitary status to settlements with a population of 200,000 or over. None of those areas meet those requirements

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Bournemouth and Poole are contiguous and together go well over 200,000 (especially if you add in other settlements just over the border).

PS What's the question mark over South Staffordshire?

[J.G.Harston]

Feb 14, 2018 9:52:09 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Bournemouth and Poole are contiguous and together go well over 200,000 (especially if you add in other settlements just over the border).

PS What's the question mark over South Staffordshire?

That's my question mark, wondering whether it should be annexed into Shropshire. Also a wonder about tidying the Lancs/Yorks border around Slaidburn.

[Pete Whitehead]

or something ...

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Dorset council review (the two-unitary proposal) gets Sajid Javid's sign-off: www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-02-26/HCWS486/

[peterl]

Feb 26, 2018 15:59:49 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Dorset council review (the two-unitary proposal) gets Sajid Javid's sign-off: www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-02-26/HCWS486/

RIP Democracy in Dorset, died February 26th 2018. Gone but not forgotten. Sacred also to the memory of localism, which left us before its time.

[poi]

Consultation opened on Basingstoke and Deane wards today. www.lgbce.org.uk/current-reviews/south-east/hampshire/basingstoke-and-deane
I'm new to local reviews, itching to have a go at my local one.

[greenhert]

Will Basingstoke & Deane still hold elections by thirds or switch to full council elections?

[poi]

This is just a warding review according to the LGBCE site, so staying at thirds I assume.

[Harry Hayfield]

As part of the local government reviews in Wales, the Local Government Boundary Commission produced a proposal for a 38 member Ceredigion with an electoral quota of 1,384 electors per councillor. My orginal submission was based on an electoral of closer to 1,450 so as a result have rejigged my submission as part of the review process and come up with 30 single member wards and 4 double member wards. In their report, the Commission suggested that they didn't want to have anything greater than a 25% variance in wards and to their credit they managed it. My submission has 4 that break that rule but I think overall I have not done too bad a job.

Number Name of proposed ward Communities Electorate Variance

1 Aberaeron and Llanerchaeron Aberaeron (1,105), Ciliau Aeron (383), Llanddewi Aberarth (347) 1,835 25%

2 Aberporth Aberporth (1,871) 1,871 26%

3 Aberystwyth University (2 member) Aberystwyth, Bronglais (1,025), Aberystwyth Canol / Central (1,422) 2,447 43%

4 Aberystwyth, Penglais (2 member) Aberystwyth Gogledd / North (1,206), Waunfawr (1,143) 2,349 41%

5 Aberystwyth, Penparcau (2 members) Aberystwyth, Penparcau (2,190) 2,190 37%

6 Aberystwyth, Rheidol (2 members) Aberystwyth, Rheidol (1,745) 1,745 21%

7 Aeron Valley Cilcennin (304), Llanbadarn Trefeglwys (552), Nantcwnlle (306), Penuwch (266), Trefilan (200) 1,628 15%

8 Beulah and Cenarth Falls Bettws Evan (316), Beulah (376), Brongwyn (180), Llandygwydd (501) 1,373 -1%

9 Blaenplwyf, Capel Seion and Llanrhystud Deiniol (91), Llanbadarn y Creuddyn (796), Llanychaiarn (389), Mefenydd (234) 1,510 8%

10 Borth and Taliesin Borth (1,087), Llangynfelyn (486) 1,573 12%

11 Capel Dewi and Tre-groes Capel Dewi (387), Llangynllo (386), Pontshaen (348), Tregroes (321) 1,442 4%

12 Cardigan Castle Rhyd y Fuwch (911), Teifi (806) 1,717 19%

13 Cardigan Rural Llangoedmor (931), Y Ferwig (941) 1,872 26%

14 Cardigan, Mwldan Mwldan (1,529) 1,529 9%

15 Ceulanamaesmawr Ceulanamaesmawr (813), Geneu'r Glyn (544), Ysgubor-y-Coed (232) 1,589 13%

16 Clarach and Bow Street Llangorwen (589), Tirymynach (825) 1,414 2%

17 Hafod Ithel Llangwyryfon (475), Llanilar (853) 1,328 -4%

18 Lampeter Lampeter (1,790) 1,790 23%

19 Llanarth and Henfynyw Henfynyw (881), Llanarth (878) 1,759 21%

20 Llanbadarn Fawr Padarn (815), Sulien (846) 1,661 17%

21 Llandyfriog and Aber-banc Llandyfriog (766), Orllwyn Teifi (689) 1,455 5%

22 Llandysul Town Llandysul (1,101) 1,101 -26%

23 Llanfihangel Ystrad Dihewid (272), Llanfihangel Ystrad (902), Mydroilyn (294) 1,468 6%

24 Llangeitho and Llangybi Cellan (317), Gartheli (158), Gwynfil (272), Llanfair Clydogau (197), Llangybi (333) 1,277 -8%

25 Llangrannog and Talgarreg Llandysiliogogo (846), Llangrannog (649) 1,495 7%

26 Llanwenog Llanwenog (1,053), Llanwnnen (386), Silian (162) 1,601 14%

27 New Quay and Llanllwchaiarn Llanllwchaiarn (719), New Quay (880) 1,599 13%

28 Penbryn and Troedyraur Penbryn (1,106), Troedyraur (679) 1,785 22%

29 Rhiedol Valley and Faenor Blaenrheidol (354), Faenor (497), Goginan (260), Llanbadarn y Creuddyn Uchaf (189), Penllwyn (396) 1,696 18%

30 Sant Non, Sant Ffraed a Rhyd Rosser Haminiog (503), Llansantffraed (1,023) 1,526 9%

31 Strata Florida Blaenpennal (228), Caron-Uwch-Clawdd (287), Gwnnws Isaf (178), Gwnnws Uchaf (317), Lledrod Isaf (313), Lledrod Uchaf (105) 1,428 3%

32 Trefeurig Trefeurig (1,393) 1,393 1%

33 Tregaron and Llandewi Brefi Llanbadarn Odwyn (99), Llanddewi Brefi (478), Tregaron (944) 1,521 9%

34 Ystwyth Valley Llanafan (359), Llanfihangel y Creuddyn (411), Pontarfynach (397), Ysbyty Ystwyth (356) 1,523 9%


Generally speaking what I have done is made everything that is not Aberystwyth into a single member ward and made Aberystwyth into four double member wards. If someone who is more skilled in tables could turn that mess into a table I would be greatly appreciative of them and if members would like I could happily do a map and an estimate of how the new Ceredigion would have voted in 2017

[cibwr]

Go ahead, always a fun exercise.

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Secretary of State minded to go for a Buckinghamshire county unitary: hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2018-03-12/debates/18031210000017/LocalGovernmentPolicy

[goose]

Berkshire



1. Slough UA

2. East Berkshire UA

3. Reading UA

4. West Berkshire UA