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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 17, 2018 11:54:43 GMT
If you're taking that route, why not stick Windsor into Slough too? Culturally it's not a great fit, but transport links are better than those between Windsor and Bracknell or Maidenhead.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 17, 2018 11:57:30 GMT
If you were doing things logically I think in addition to creating Slough and Windsor as a single council, Maidenhead would fit much more comfortably with South Bucks. That would make that East Berkshire less of a monstrosity (it must have a greater population than most major cities).
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Post by goose on Apr 17, 2018 16:54:23 GMT
If you were doing things logically I think in addition to creating Slough and Windsor as a single council, Maidenhead would fit much more comfortably with South Bucks. That would make that East Berkshire less of a monstrosity (it must have a greater population than most major cities). There are other Local Authorities that are larger than this, I don't think it's an issue, and it's far less monstrous than the current arrangements. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 8:17:16 GMT
If you're taking that route, why not stick Windsor into Slough too? Culturally it's not a great fit, but transport links are better than those between Windsor and Bracknell or Maidenhead. As someone who lives in the district I would oppose such a proposal; Windsor and Maidenhead do have reasonable transport links, and have a shared connection, and although there is a large relief road between the two, Windsor looks to Slough no more than Maidenhead. I would honestly prefer to be in an authority with Slough and Windsor as we have a lot of shared services that would be more effective under one local authority. Wokingham and Bracknell however have far less of a connection with Windsor or Maidenhead for that matter. I would highly doubt that I'm the only person in W&M who rarely goes to Bracknell and I only know one person my age who does. I do think however Wokingham, Bracknell and Ascot are a good fit. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 16, 2018 7:23:43 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 16, 2018 8:03:28 GMT
Pitchforks out in Fife, for sure, the kingdom must be indivisible.
Is the England map really suggesting Crawley as a capital for "Southames" (dreadful name, as well)? And preferring Liverpool to Manchester for the capital of Northwest might be, well, a bit controversial.
I'm trying to work out what the capital of "Northames" (retch!) is, and thinking Luton. Really?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 16, 2018 9:20:58 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 16, 2018 10:11:22 GMT
That 'North East/Yorkshire/Deira' is pretty clearly Yorkshire.
English does occasionally put two words together to form a new word, but not artificially. In any case the 'th' at the end of North is a thorn, and the 'h' in Thames is silent, so they aren't the same.
I would advise against making Crawley the capital of the south. Bad situation there.
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 16, 2018 10:48:25 GMT
Further to this, if you insist on siting the capital of Southwest in Bristol, you *will* get opposition from Cornishmen who will be very keen to point out just how far it is from Penzance to Bristol (about 190 miles, Google tells me). Consider Taunton instead.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 11:09:37 GMT
Further to this, if you insist on siting the capital of Southwest in Bristol, you *will* get opposition from Cornishmen who will be very keen to point out just how far it is from Penzance to Bristol (about 190 miles, Google tells me). Consider Taunton instead. When considering this dilemma (the location of a potential South West regional assembly or similar), I once decided that since the South West (i.e. the current EU Parliament Region) is 'widest' North-South wise in the East, and tapers off at Cornwall, a potentially good place would be somewhere equidistant from the tip of Cornwall (i.e. Land's End) and both the northernmost and southernmost point of the eastern boundary of the region (Moreton-in-Marsh and Christchurch, respectively). Which was an interesting little thought experiment, but I eventually decided that in the Bristol Channel midway between Ilfracombe and Swansea wasn't the ideal location after all. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on May 16, 2018 11:40:59 GMT
If you're going to split Derbyshire and putting Buxton and Glossop in Greater Manchester's orbit you may as well put Sheffield's suburbs in the Hope Valley in with Sheffield. North Derbyshire is very much North Of England.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 16, 2018 14:55:25 GMT
If you want a laugh, the HC Delegated Legislation committee is currently considering the Dorset reorganisation order and the Dorset Tories are kicking off over it. It's the Third Delegated Legislation Committee, via parliamentlive.tv. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 17, 2018 4:13:13 GMT
Pitchforks out in Fife, for sure, the kingdom must be indivisible. Is the England map really suggesting Crawley as a capital for "Southames" (dreadful name, as well)? And preferring Liverpool to Manchester for the capital of Northwest might be, well, a bit controversial. I'm trying to work out what the capital of "Northames" (retch!) is, and thinking Luton. Really? Politicians and CivilServants (mis)planned Luton and Crawley, so they should receive the fruits of their work, shouldn't they? |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 17, 2018 4:19:40 GMT
If you're going to split Derbyshire and putting Buxton and Glossop in Greater Manchester's orbit you may as well put Sheffield's suburbs in the Hope Valley in with Sheffield. North Derbyshire is very much North Of England. But the Pennines are a clear natural border, whereas the Sheffield-SubUrbs haven't one. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 17, 2018 6:49:14 GMT
Pitchforks out in Fife, for sure, the kingdom must be indivisible. Is the England map really suggesting Crawley as a capital for "Southames" (dreadful name, as well)? And preferring Liverpool to Manchester for the capital of Northwest might be, well, a bit controversial. I'm trying to work out what the capital of "Northames" (retch!) is, and thinking Luton. Really? Politicians and CivilServants (mis)planned Luton and Crawley, so they should receive the fruits of their work, shouldn't they? On that basis you might have to live in Northames. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 17, 2018 6:56:19 GMT
Further to this, if you insist on siting the capital of Southwest in Bristol, you *will* get opposition from Cornishmen who will be very keen to point out just how far it is from Penzance to Bristol (about 190 miles, Google tells me). Consider Taunton instead. TBF to Georg Ebner this is bit of an insoluble problem, Bristol is clearly the biggest city in the west of England and the nearest thing to a cultural hub but neither central nor especially well linked by transport to the rest. I'd probably go for Exeter rather than Taunton. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 17, 2018 6:58:10 GMT
If you're going to split Derbyshire and putting Buxton and Glossop in Greater Manchester's orbit you may as well put Sheffield's suburbs in the Hope Valley in with Sheffield. North Derbyshire is very much North Of England. But the Pennines are a clear natural border, whereas the Sheffield-SubUrbs haven't one. It's actually quite easy to get from North Derbyshire into either Sheffield (or the Greater Manchester area tbf) it's further north that you find there are no east-west routes. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on May 17, 2018 20:26:58 GMT
If you're going to split Derbyshire and putting Buxton and Glossop in Greater Manchester's orbit you may as well put Sheffield's suburbs in the Hope Valley in with Sheffield. North Derbyshire is very much North Of England. But the Pennines are a clear natural border, whereas the Sheffield-SubUrbs haven't one. Yes, the Pennines are a clear natural border, which means that the Hope Valley should be bundled up with Sheffield, not with Manchester as it is now. There is a fairly clear culturo-geographic north/south boundary in Derbyshire that puts northern Derbyshire in "The North": (Edit: To clarify, High Peak is in the Manchester City Region area link)  The centuries-old flaw is that High Peak has tried to unify two sides of a set of mountains which are often impassible in the same local authority area.  Former A625 main Hope Valley cross-Pennine road. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 17, 2018 20:58:23 GMT
But the Pennines are a clear natural border, whereas the Sheffield-SubUrbs haven't one. Yes, the Pennines are a clear natural border, which means that the Hope Valley should be bundled up with Sheffield, not with Manchester as it is now. There is a fairly clear culturo-geographic north/south boundary in Derbyshire that puts northern Derbyshire in "The North": (Edit: To clarify, High Peak is in the Manchester City Region area link) The centuries-old flaw is that High Peak has tried to unify two sides of a set of mountains which are often impassible in the same local authority area. Former A625 main Hope Valley cross-Pennine road. You can however get round that on the "new" road in, what? ten minutes? or so. I'd have thought the regular closure of the Snake Pass for snow was more of an issue. |
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Post by piperdave on May 17, 2018 21:49:50 GMT
 (An InSider told me, that splitting Fife would be seen as a CapitalSin...) No. Just no. On every level - no! |
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