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Post by Chris Cassidy on Oct 6, 2016 22:57:38 GMT
How the heck can UKIP gain a seat today of all days? Well yes, it's Hartlepool and it's the Headland, with the cannon to keep the foreigners away, and the Harbour where the monkey landed... But...but...but... We ran the best campaign by far from day one so it's no accident we won. We planned and executed every stage well, building on from the three gains in May that were also not a fluke. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 6, 2016 23:06:49 GMT
Let's be fair to Labour, under any circumstrances, replacing a councillor who had the seat since 1967 will have that effect. Yeah, this is more 'what an ordinary local poll would look like'. People forget how important personal votes are in Welsh local elections. |
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 6, 2016 23:25:20 GMT
How the heck can UKIP gain a seat today of all days? Well yes, it's Hartlepool and it's the Headland, with the cannon to keep the foreigners away, and the Harbour where the monkey landed... But...but...but... We ran the best campaign by far from day one so it's no accident we won. We planned and executed every stage well, building on from the three gains in May that were also not a fluke. One of very few functioning campaigning UKIP local parties clearly. |
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 7, 2016 7:37:38 GMT
Apparently the Tory vote is up from 2.6% in 2012 to over 10% in Garscadden & Scotstounhill. The SNP gain here doesn't come as much of a surprise - the ward is much like Renfrew South & Gallowhill, with an SNP vote of around 57% in last May's Scottish Parliamentary election. Apparently it was 43% SNP and 39% for labour. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 7, 2016 8:37:23 GMT
First preferences
CUNNINGHAM, Chris (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 2,135
CRUIKSHANK, Ian (Scottish Labour Party) 1,944
JAFF, Ary (Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party) 510
MACDONALD, Gillian Frances (Scottish Green Party) 242
SPEIRS, James Douglas (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 97
MACKAY, Donald Murdo (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 83
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Post by ogermeister on Oct 7, 2016 8:37:46 GMT
Exmouth Brixington
Con 425
EDA 324
LD 286
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Post by mrpastelito on Oct 7, 2016 9:04:57 GMT
Exmouth Brixington Con 425 EDA 324 LD 286 Pity. LDs splitting the opposition vote. East Devon Council are a bunch of clueless idiots and lazy one-party-regime inbreds, and a shake-up wouldn't do any harm. |
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Post by samdwebber on Oct 7, 2016 9:14:48 GMT
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Post by MeirionGwril on Oct 7, 2016 9:16:48 GMT
Exmouth Brixington Con 425 EDA 324 LD 286 Pity. LDs splitting the opposition vote. East Devon Council are a bunch of clueless idiots and lazy one-party-regime inbreds, and a shake-up wouldn't do any harm. Frankly, I blame the woman bonking the Exmouth dinosaur statue for causing a conservative backlash  |
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 7, 2016 9:44:40 GMT
First preferences CUNNINGHAM, Chris (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 2,135 CRUIKSHANK, Ian (Scottish Labour Party) 1,944 JAFF, Ary (Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party) 510 MACDONALD, Gillian Frances (Scottish Green Party) 242 SPEIRS, James Douglas (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 97 MACKAY, Donald Murdo (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 83 Considering how crap labour have been doing in Glasgow lately that result isn't to bad for them. |
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Post by Sharon on Oct 7, 2016 9:53:59 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 7, 2016 10:00:53 GMT
First preferences CUNNINGHAM, Chris (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 2,135 CRUIKSHANK, Ian (Scottish Labour Party) 1,944 JAFF, Ary (Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party) 510 MACDONALD, Gillian Frances (Scottish Green Party) 242 SPEIRS, James Douglas (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 97 MACKAY, Donald Murdo (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 83 Considering how crap labour have been doing in Glasgow lately that result isn't to bad for them. Down by a mere 22 points  Glasgow is going Nat next year even if there is a bit of a recovery for Labour in Scotland more generally before then. |
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Post by jollyroger93 on Oct 7, 2016 10:04:00 GMT
Considering how crap labour have been doing in Glasgow lately that result isn't to bad for them. Down by a mere 22 points Glasgow is going Nat next year even if there is a bit of a recovery for Labour in Scotland more generally before then. True but at least your not down by 30% and at least it shows that labour in parts of Glasgow are still very competitive. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 7, 2016 10:10:00 GMT
First preferences CUNNINGHAM, Chris (Scottish National Party (SNP)) 2,135 CRUIKSHANK, Ian (Scottish Labour Party) 1,944 JAFF, Ary (Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party) 510 MACDONALD, Gillian Frances (Scottish Green Party) 242 SPEIRS, James Douglas (Scottish Liberal Democrats) 97 MACKAY, Donald Murdo (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 83 Considering how crap labour have been doing in Glasgow lately that result isn't to bad for them. They LOST the seat!!! They are down 22.8% !!!!!! What counts as a bad result for you then? |
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Post by samdwebber on Oct 7, 2016 10:19:50 GMT
Arent we due another LD gain in the Highlands after storming to take Drew Hendry's council seat in October 2015?!
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 7, 2016 10:22:17 GMT
They LOST the seat!!! They are down 22.8% !!!!!! What counts as a bad result for you then? I hate approaching an election with tunnel vision: as if all that matters is the direct change from the last election of that nature in the area. Look at the context: right across 2015 the SNP were performing extremely well in just about every single local council by-election in Scotland - strongly correlating to the results of the 2015 UK general election... Now they are under-performing by around 11-12% of the vote from the 2016 Scottish Parliament election, and this pattern is holding up even in areas such as Garscadden which was an SNP stronghold at the 2016 Scottish Parliament election! "...isn't too bad for them..." Oh yes it is. This is not an SNP failure or set back it is a Labour disaster and no amount of relativism can cover that up. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 7, 2016 10:32:03 GMT
"...isn't too bad for them..." Oh yes it is. This is not an SNP failure or set back it is a Labour disaster and no amount of relativism can cover that up. Yeah sure, let's just forget that 2015 and 2016 ever happened and let Scotland disappoint us all over again rather than face reality. You and Kezia Dugdale agree on that much at least  ! Wow! SNP are underperforming!! Every party in the developed world would ache to underperform that badly. You talk the worst form of relativism in these posts. So the SNP is not every time pulling in a yet better vote and having the very best results forever? No, of course not. It can't peak forever. That result was a crap one for Labour and there is no argument about it. |
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Post by middleenglander on Oct 7, 2016 10:36:04 GMT
They are only to start counting the Basing votes at mid-day!!
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 7, 2016 10:36:53 GMT
Arent we due another LD gain in the Highlands after storming to take Drew Hendry's council seat in October 2015?! I am hopeful that the Tories get knocked out before the Lib Dems as their vote should transfer heavily to the Lib Dem candidate, which could put them in the running here. I dearly hope not but think it is a year or two too early for that Conservative revival to show through. |
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Post by marksenior on Oct 7, 2016 10:37:16 GMT
Basingstoke count starts at noon
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