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Post by greenhert on Sept 30, 2016 12:23:55 GMT
I agree with you Pete, the Labour result was appalling. From what I could tell they had 2 leaflets, a full canvass and a GOTV operation on the day all for less than 16% of the vote. In recent by elections they do seem to pick "old faithful" candidates, no sign of new people coming forward. Obviously our vote was ridiculously low. I was hoping for 5% on a good day! I'm not sure what has happened to UKIP locally. I understand that they called this by-election and had a good result here last year, their candidate was the chair but no one I spoke to from the other parties had seen any activity form them at all. A few people said they hadn't even seen a leaflet. The only one I came across was a ripped up one in someone's front garden. Their candidate at the general election was a very personable guy and quite well known locally (a dentist). I found him to be approachable and thoughtful but since the election I have seen and heard nothing from him and there is no mention of him on the branch website. If he has left then I reckon that is a big loss to the branch.Howard Koch - yes he has and it is I cannot say I am that surprised-when I encountered him at Hemel's 2015 election hustings back when I was the Green Party candidate for Hemel Hempstead, he always seemed more like a Eurosceptic Conservative than a 'Kipper'. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2016 12:32:22 GMT
I've heard he has (re?) joined the Conservatives though it's an unconfirmed rumour. My understanding is that he stepped down as chairman to concentrate on the general election and afterwards wanted to return to the post but the new chairman (our candidate in this by-election) had other ideas and the branch pretty much split into factions with Howard's faction losing and then moving on. There were some similar kind of shennanigans in the Watford branch
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 13:25:34 GMT
Howard Koch - yes he has and it is I cannot say I am that surprised-when I encountered him at Hemel's 2015 election hustings back when I was the Green Party candidate for Hemel Hempstead, he always seemed more like a Eurosceptic Conservative than a 'Kipper'. Seems pretty 'UKIP' to me: twitter.com/howardkoch_uk |
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Post by middleenglander on Sept 30, 2016 21:03:31 GMT
Blackpool, Tydesley - Labour hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Labour | 535 | 48.3% | +10.0% | +9.1% | -13.9% | -14.0% | Conservative | 297 | 26.8% | -2.4% | -0.9% | -10.9% | -10.9% | UKIP | 238 | 21.5% | -0.5% | -1.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 37 | 3.3% | -2.3% | -2.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent |
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| Total votes | 1,107 |
| 37% | 38% | 61% | 62% |
Swing Conservative to Labour 5% / 6% since 2015 but Labour to Conservative (if meaningful) ~1½% since 2011
Council now 29 Labour, 13 Conservative
Blaenau, Gwent, Brynmawr - result awaited
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2012 "top" | since 2012 "average" | since 2008 "top" | since 2008 "average" | | Independent | 1,085 | 80.1% | +56.9% | +52.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 270 | 19.9% | -13.0% | -9.6% | -20.5% | -22.3% | Previous Independents |
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| -11.2% | -15.6% | Total votes | 1,355 |
| 63% | 75% | 51% | 71% |
Swing (if meaningful) Labour to winning Independent 35% / 31% since 2012
Council now 33 Labour, 8 Independent, 1 Non-Aligned
Cotswold, Stow - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | | Liberal Democrat | 555 | 64.9% | +21.0% | Conservative | 300 | 35.1% | -21.0% | Total votes | 855 |
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Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat 21% since 2015
Council now 23 Conservative, 11 Liberal Democrat
Dacorum, Adeyfield West - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2013 B | since 2011 "top" | since 201`1 "average" | | Liberal Democrat | 520 | 49.5% | +24.4% | +26.5% | +16.9% | +35.0% | +34.9% | Conservative | 233 | 22.2% | -4.6% | -6.4% | +1.6% | -20.8% | -20.7% | Labour | 166 | 15.8% | -8.7% | -6.5% | -9.2% | -26.7% | -26.7% | UKIP | 115 | 10.9% | -12.7% | -15.2% | -6.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 17 | 1.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | English Democrat |
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| 37% | 41% | 94% | 73% | 74% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~16% since 2015, ~7½% since 2013 by-election and ~28% since 2011
also labour to Liberal Democrat ~16% since 2015, ~13% since 2013 by-election and ~31% since 2011
Council now 45 Conservative, 4 Liberal Democrat, 2 Labour
Derby, Allestree - Conservative hold
| Party | 2016 B votes | 2016 B share | since 2016 | since 2015 | since 2014 | since 2012 | | Conservative | 2,006 | 54.6% | -6.1% | -2.1% | +0.4% | +7.5% | Liberal Democrat | 1,053 | 28.7% | +17.2% | +18.4% | +22.7% | +24.5% | Labour | 409 | 11.1% | -5.8% | -10.2% | -9.5% | -18.7% | Green | 115 | 3.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | -0.8% | UKIP | 91 | 2.5% | -8.5% | -9.2% | -16.7% | -12.5% | Total votes | 3,674 |
| 79% | 43% | 76% | 85% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat ~11% since 2016, 2015 and 2014 whilst 8½% since 2012
whilst as meaningful Labour to Conservative little change since 2016, ~4% since 2015, ~5 % since 2014 and ~13% since 2012
Council now 26 Labour, 17 Conservative, 5 Liberal Democrat, 3 UKIP
North Norfolk, Glaven Valley - Liberal Democrat hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | since 2011 | since 2007 | | Liberal Democrat | 429 | 55.2% | +8.3% | +31.9% | +12.2% | Conservative | 281 | 36.2% | +3.7% | -14.1% | -20.7% | UKIP | 32 | 4.1% | -6.8% | -4.2% | from nowhere | Labour | 23 | 3.0% | -2.8% | -6.6% | from nowhere | Green | 12 | 1.5% | -2.4% | -6.9% | from nowhere | Total votes | 777 |
| 58% | 79% | 78% |
Swing Conservative to Liberal Democrat 2¼% since 2015, 23% since 2011 and 16½% since 2007
Council now 31 Conservative, 16 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independent Conservative
Wellingborough, Finedon - Conservative hold
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Conservative | 758 | 62.3% | +15.5% | +18.7% | +1.9% | +3.1% | Labour | 235 | 19.3% | -7.7% | -9.3% | -20.2% | -21.4% | UKIP | 137 | 11.3% | -14.9% | -16.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 86 | 7.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Total votes | 1,216 |
| 46% | 48% | 79% | 81% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~12% since both 2015 and 2011 Council now 27 Conservative, 9 Labour
West Lindsey, Cherry Willingham - Conservative hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | | Conservative | 555 | 51.1% | +12.2% | +12.5% | Labour | 288 | 26.5% | +0.6% | +1.5% | UKIP | 244 | 22.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Lincolnshire Independent |
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Swing (if meaningful) Labour to Conservative ~5½% since 2015 Council now 24 Conservative, 7 Liberal Democrat, 3 Labour, 1 Independent, 1 Lincolnshire Independent
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Post by cibwr on Oct 1, 2016 11:53:41 GMT
Blaenau Gwent result Ind hold Ind 1085 Lab 270 80% : 20% That is a truly shocking result for Labour. So Blaenau Gwent might me interesting in the future.... the Assembly election (and Peter/Trish Law) may not be flashes in the pan. |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 1, 2016 14:09:44 GMT
Tbh it seems like the sort of disfunctional council where fairly frequent swings against whoever is the incumbent can be expected.
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 1, 2016 14:30:53 GMT
Some of the local issues noted earlier this year involve the local authority (inc. bad publicity over waste disposal matters; think this is resolved now but all the same).
Brynmawr is also an odd little town that defines itself against the rest of the borough somewhat (historically in Brecon rather than Monmouthshire) and local elections there have usually been... weird. New councillor appears to be of the LOCAL CHAMPION variety (re-opened and now runs the town's public toilets etc) that often poll well in Wales.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 1, 2016 14:35:05 GMT
Tbh it seems like the sort of disfunctional council where fairly frequent swings against whoever is the incumbent can be expected. Its fundamental problem is that it's just too small to do everything it is expected to do competently. Not the only Welsh local authority with this issue either. Note that when independents or other parties take control of a South Wales council they tend to then get trashed when up for re-election. |
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 1, 2016 17:59:12 GMT
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 1, 2016 18:04:28 GMT
New councillor appears to be of the LOCAL CHAMPION variety (re-opened and now runs the town's public toilets etc)... I know this reads like parody but it is actually true. |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 1, 2016 21:24:24 GMT
Its fundamental problem is that it's just too small to do everything it is expected to do competently. Not the only Welsh local authority with this issue either. It's almost as if it was a mistake to turn all of the Welsh local authorities into unitaries. |
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