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Post by Arthur Figgis on Sept 30, 2016 7:25:43 GMT
Your sons have to share a nanny! Oh the times we live in!Typical Lib Dem - completely out of touch with the reality of life for hard-working families. With more than one child, engaging a nanny (ie a child-carer who comes to ones own home and charges for their time) is considerably cheaper than using the services of a child-minder (ie a child-carer who looks after children in their own home or some other premises and who charges a fixed rate per child) Even cheaper sending the sprogs down Wetherspoon's all day with enough cash for a couple of lemonades and a bag of crisps each. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2016 7:27:47 GMT
My sons' nanny lives in Adeyfield West - I'm annoyed that I forgot when I saw her on Tuesday to remind her about (or alert her to) this by-election. Hopefully she will be aware, or her partner will ensure she votes. Both are UKIP voters but she tends more toward the apathetic. I didn't imagine I would be able to draw any great insights from her about how the campaign may be going (and being post-operative was unfortunately unable to help myself). I'm disappointed to hear that Hemel UKIP have not organised a telling operation as the importance of this cannot be underestimated IMO and they are an active branch Hope nothing too serious Pete and you're back to full fitness soon. Thanks. Had my gallbladder out with keyhole surgery - all very routine and minor and i'm pretty much fully recovered now except I mustn't do 'heavy lifting' (which includes leafleting in my book  ) Full fitness however is not a state i've known since I was about 15 |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2016 7:46:38 GMT
Anyway WRT the result in Hemel, it's obviously a disappointing vote for UKIP but one has got used to our vote sinking in by-elections and in this one it's pretty clear all the other parties got squeezed out by the Lib Dems. Arguably it's even more of a disastrous result for Labour in what is one of very few wards in Hemel that they've been able to get councillors elected in recent years (ie the past decade). This result pretty much makes certain the outcome of the CC election in Hemnel St Pauls next year, just as the earlier Lib Dem gain in a by-election here did before 2013.
The frustrating aspect of UKIP's performance in Hemel generally is the timing, as Dacorum is one of those districts that has all out elections every four years. 2015 was not a good year for the party in local elections generally, for obvious reasons and yet we were still able to get 20-25% of the vote in several wards and come reasonably close to getting elected in a couple. Comparing the results between 2014 and 2015 in neighbouring areas like Watford and St Albans we were losing from a third to a half of our vote share so it's reasonable to assume that had Dacorum elected by thirds and held elections in 2014 we would have been getting 30% plus in some of these wards and would almost certainly have won a number of seats
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Post by marksenior on Sept 30, 2016 8:31:13 GMT
Blaenau Gwent result Ind hold
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 30, 2016 9:23:47 GMT
Blaenau Gwent result Ind hold Ind 1085 Lab 270 80% : 20% That is a truly shocking result for Labour. |
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Post by marksenior on Sept 30, 2016 9:40:45 GMT
Wellingborough Finedon
Con 758
Lab 235
UKIP 137
LDem 86
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 30, 2016 9:48:04 GMT
Blaenau Gwent result Ind hold Ind 1085 Lab 270 80% : 20% That is a truly shocking result for Labour. You could say that. What on earth happened there? |
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Post by maxque on Sept 30, 2016 10:51:12 GMT
Blaenau Gwent result Ind hold Ind 1085 Lab 270 Ind 80.1% Lab 19.9% (-23.0) |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 30, 2016 10:52:33 GMT
Hope nothing too serious Pete and you're back to full fitness soon. Thanks. Had my gallbladder out with keyhole surgery - all very routine and minor and i'm pretty much fully recovered now except I mustn't do 'heavy lifting' (which includes leafleting in my book ) Full fitness however is not a state i've known since I was about 15 I'm in a similar boat to you, Pete- my appendix burst a few weeks back. Not as painful as the gallbladder by all accounts but still spent three weeks feeling like a heavyweight boxer had punched me for 12 rounds a day. Get well soon. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 30, 2016 11:08:20 GMT
The local council is about as popular as herpes, it seems. It remains astonishing that the Tories "carried" Derby in the PCC elections. |
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Post by Kristofer Keane on Sept 30, 2016 11:33:35 GMT
Blaenau Gwent result Ind hold Ind 1085 Lab 270 Ind 80.1% Lab 19.9% (-23.0) How are you grouping the percentages? There were four independents for three seats in 2012, so they definitely can't be considered a combined slate. Here's the percentages as I worked them: welshelections.org.uk/wales/lby/brynmawr.php |
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Post by hempie on Sept 30, 2016 11:33:53 GMT
Anyway WRT the result in Hemel, it's obviously a disappointing vote for UKIP but one has got used to our vote sinking in by-elections and in this one it's pretty clear all the other parties got squeezed out by the Lib Dems. Arguably it's even more of a disastrous result for Labour in what is one of very few wards in Hemel that they've been able to get councillors elected in recent years (ie the past decade). This result pretty much makes certain the outcome of the CC election in Hemnel St Pauls next year, just as the earlier Lib Dem gain in a by-election here did before 2013. The frustrating aspect of UKIP's performance in Hemel generally is the timing, as Dacorum is one of those districts that has all out elections every four years. 2015 was not a good year for the party in local elections generally, for obvious reasons and yet we were still able to get 20-25% of the vote in several wards and come reasonably close to getting elected in a couple. Comparing the results between 2014 and 2015 in neighbouring areas like Watford and St Albans we were losing from a third to a half of our vote share so it's reasonable to assume that had Dacorum elected by thirds and held elections in 2014 we would have been getting 30% plus in some of these wards and would almost certainly have won a number of seats I agree with you Pete, the Labour result was appalling. From what I could tell they had 2 leaflets, a full canvass and a GOTV operation on the day all for less than 16% of the vote. In recent by elections they do seem to pick "old faithful" candidates, no sign of new people coming forward. Obviously our vote was ridiculously low. I was hoping for 5% on a good day! I'm not sure what has happened to UKIP locally. I understand that they called this by-election and had a good result here last year, their candidate was the chair but no one I spoke to from the other parties had seen any activity form them at all. A few people said they hadn't even seen a leaflet. The only one I came across was a ripped up one in someone's front garden. Their candidate at the general election was a very personable guy and quite well known locally (a dentist). I found him to be approachable and thoughtful but since the election I have seen and heard nothing from him and there is no mention of him on the branch website. If he has left then I reckon that is a big loss to the branch. |
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 30, 2016 11:44:29 GMT
Anyway WRT the result in Hemel, it's obviously a disappointing vote for UKIP but one has got used to our vote sinking in by-elections and in this one it's pretty clear all the other parties got squeezed out by the Lib Dems. Arguably it's even more of a disastrous result for Labour in what is one of very few wards in Hemel that they've been able to get councillors elected in recent years (ie the past decade). This result pretty much makes certain the outcome of the CC election in Hemnel St Pauls next year, just as the earlier Lib Dem gain in a by-election here did before 2013. The frustrating aspect of UKIP's performance in Hemel generally is the timing, as Dacorum is one of those districts that has all out elections every four years. 2015 was not a good year for the party in local elections generally, for obvious reasons and yet we were still able to get 20-25% of the vote in several wards and come reasonably close to getting elected in a couple. Comparing the results between 2014 and 2015 in neighbouring areas like Watford and St Albans we were losing from a third to a half of our vote share so it's reasonable to assume that had Dacorum elected by thirds and held elections in 2014 we would have been getting 30% plus in some of these wards and would almost certainly have won a number of seats I agree with you Pete, the Labour result was appalling. From what I could tell they had 2 leaflets, a full canvass and a GOTV operation on the day all for less than 16% of the vote. In recent by elections they do seem to pick "old faithful" candidates, no sign of new people coming forward. Obviously our vote was ridiculously low. I was hoping for 5% on a good day! I'm not sure what has happened to UKIP locally. I understand that they called this by-election and had a good result here last year, their candidate was the chair but no one I spoke to from the other parties had seen any activity form them at all. A few people said they hadn't even seen a leaflet. The only one I came across was a ripped up one in someone's front garden. Their candidate at the general election was a very personable guy and quite well known locally (a dentist). I found him to be approachable and thoughtful but since the election I have seen and heard nothing from him and there is no mention of him on the branch website. If he has left then I reckon that is a big loss to the branch.We've talked about this before but the loss of one or two individuals from a branch of any party can make an enormous difference to its activity and effectiveness. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2016 11:46:58 GMT
Anyway WRT the result in Hemel, it's obviously a disappointing vote for UKIP but one has got used to our vote sinking in by-elections and in this one it's pretty clear all the other parties got squeezed out by the Lib Dems. Arguably it's even more of a disastrous result for Labour in what is one of very few wards in Hemel that they've been able to get councillors elected in recent years (ie the past decade). This result pretty much makes certain the outcome of the CC election in Hemnel St Pauls next year, just as the earlier Lib Dem gain in a by-election here did before 2013. The frustrating aspect of UKIP's performance in Hemel generally is the timing, as Dacorum is one of those districts that has all out elections every four years. 2015 was not a good year for the party in local elections generally, for obvious reasons and yet we were still able to get 20-25% of the vote in several wards and come reasonably close to getting elected in a couple. Comparing the results between 2014 and 2015 in neighbouring areas like Watford and St Albans we were losing from a third to a half of our vote share so it's reasonable to assume that had Dacorum elected by thirds and held elections in 2014 we would have been getting 30% plus in some of these wards and would almost certainly have won a number of seats I agree with you Pete, the Labour result was appalling. From what I could tell they had 2 leaflets, a full canvass and a GOTV operation on the day all for less than 16% of the vote. In recent by elections they do seem to pick "old faithful" candidates, no sign of new people coming forward. Obviously our vote was ridiculously low. I was hoping for 5% on a good day! I'm not sure what has happened to UKIP locally. I understand that they called this by-election and had a good result here last year, their candidate was the chair but no one I spoke to from the other parties had seen any activity form them at all. A few people said they hadn't even seen a leaflet. The only one I came across was a ripped up one in someone's front garden. Their candidate at the general election was a very personable guy and quite well known locally (a dentist). I found him to be approachable and thoughtful but since the election I have seen and heard nothing from him and there is no mention of him on the branch website. If he has left then I reckon that is a big loss to the branch.Howard Koch - yes he has and it is |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 30, 2016 11:58:46 GMT
Ind 80.1% Lab 19.9% (-23.0) How are you grouping the percentages? There were four independents for three seats in 2012, so they definitely can't be considered a combined slate. Here's the percentages as I worked them: welshelections.org.uk/wales/lby/brynmawr.phpI think Hopkins, Elias and Hodgins were a team, with Brown having his own campaign. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 30, 2016 11:59:40 GMT
NORTH NORFOLK Glaven Valley Karen Ward (Liberal Democrat Candidate) 429 Andrew Livsey (Conservative Party Candidate) 281 John Dymond (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 32 Stephen Burke (Labour Party) 23 Alicia Hull (The Green Party) 12 Did the Greens demand a recount? (Hence the increase from 11 to 12)  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 30, 2016 12:01:01 GMT
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Post by gwynthegriff on Sept 30, 2016 12:03:40 GMT
Your sons have to share a nanny! Oh the times we live in!Typical Lib Dem - completely out of touch with the reality of life for hard-working families. With more than one child, engaging a nanny (ie a child-carer who comes to ones own home and charges for their time) is considerably cheaper than using the services of a child-minder (ie a child-carer who looks after children in their own home or some other premises and who charges a fixed rate per child) I think one of us may have missed the joke here. (It was a play on the correct use of an apostrophe. Or not.) |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2016 12:12:36 GMT
I used the apostrophe correctly so the joke is on you (and I did get that you were doing that)
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 30, 2016 12:17:41 GMT
As I said above, this one at least isn't much to do with Corbyn. Then again, if Chris Williamson is still hanging around...... |
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