Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 22, 2016 23:49:30 GMT
Personally, I just hope Labour members stop defending Blair. He is very impopular and toxic, defending him only hurts Labour. You may well be right, but if the Human Rights Act, freedom of information, devolution, the minimum wage, Lords reform, the hunting ban, equalisation of the age of consent and many more progressive measuures have become electorally toxic, then one could argue that the electorate (whether Labour members or voters as a whole) deserve everything they get. Just fixing that for you. You've neatly summarised 10 years of Blair's Labour government in less than one sentence. The greatest indictment of his premiership was that he didn't use his massive majority to completely change the political discourse of this country and instead did some important things but failed to completely change the narrative (unlike Atlee of Thatcher for example). What a waste. |
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Post by Foggy on Sept 22, 2016 23:54:26 GMT
You may well be right, but if the Human Rights Act, freedom of information, devolution, the minimum wage, Lords reform, the hunting ban, equalisation of the age of consent and many more progressive measures have become electorally toxic, then one could argue that the electorate (whether Labour members or voters as a whole) deserve everything they get. Just fixing that for you. You've neatly summarised 10 years of Blair's Labour government in less than one sentence. No, I summarised the first 6 and a half years or so. Then he almost totally lost the plot on domestic policy. Rather than making his name politically poisonous for the reasons either you or I have stated, too many people focus on one foreign policy disaster instead. |
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 22, 2016 23:57:32 GMT
Quite frankly one of the most hilariously awful Tory results I've seen for many a year. A precursor for next May methinks. Is Christchurch a middle-class area? It's west Cumbria, we have no councillors, they came third, we haven't even stood before 2010, Labour vote went up, Tories lost their seat. Shape of things to come. |
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 23, 2016 0:00:52 GMT
Just fixing that for you. You've neatly summarised 10 years of Blair's Labour government in less than one sentence. No, I summarised the first 6 and a half years or so. Then he almost totally lost the plot on domestic policy. Rather than making his name politically poisonous for the reasons either you or I have stated, too many people focus on one foreign policy disaster instead. What I'm trying to say is there was essentially nothingly else vaguely progressive, let alone game changing. Waste of a government, more interested in a majority rather than change. |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 23, 2016 0:15:27 GMT
Its half of Cockermouth which is a fairly ordinary market town.
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Post by maxque on Sept 23, 2016 0:55:33 GMT
Old Stratford, S Northamptonshire
Con 369 (76.8%)
UKIP 109 (23.2%)
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Sept 23, 2016 6:08:36 GMT
Reports that Labour have gained Arley and Whitacre in N.Warwickshire from the Conservatives with 60% of the vote. If true will be third Labour gain of the night.
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Post by maxque on Sept 23, 2016 6:52:51 GMT
Reports that Labour have gained Arley and Whitacre in N.Warwickshire from the Conservatives with 60% of the vote. If true will be third Labour gain of the night. As the original source is the leader of the Labour Group on that council, I would assume it's true. |
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Sept 23, 2016 7:21:15 GMT
Reports that Labour have gained Arley and Whitacre in N.Warwickshire from the Conservatives with 60% of the vote. If true will be third Labour gain of the night. As the original source is the leader of the Labour Group on that council, I would assume it's true. I see Arley and Whitacre ward is within the Nuneaton constituency, so will being huge pleasure to Labour people in that area. |
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Post by MeirionGwril on Sept 23, 2016 7:38:08 GMT
There is zero chance of it being cut out. It's been sung every year for 20 years at Glee Club, and you won't make it out of there alive if you suggest stopping it. Rightly so, as it's a hilarious song. On one level I hope you don't cut it out. Because it shows you up for the hypocrites you are: advocating respect and tolerance for other parties in public, telling them to fuck off and die in private. Oh for goodness sake, belt up about this silly song already! Who reeelly cares about what the LDs do anyhoo!! |
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Post by Sharon on Sept 23, 2016 8:25:48 GMT
Reports that Labour have gained Arley and Whitacre in N.Warwickshire from the Conservatives with 60% of the vote. If true will be third Labour gain of the night. As the original source is the leader of the Labour Group on that council, I would assume it's true. |
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Post by jonnymorris on Sept 23, 2016 8:43:22 GMT
I have woken up to a parallel universe in which Labour had a good by-election night.
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Post by maxque on Sept 23, 2016 8:50:53 GMT
Arley and Whitacre, North Warwickshire:
Lab 577 (59.7%; + 33.8)
Con 390 (40.3%; +1.7)
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 23, 2016 10:23:48 GMT
Not mentioned here (or anywhere else I have looked) but I do believe that Allerdale DC gain gives Labour outright control?
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Post by maxque on Sept 23, 2016 10:29:28 GMT
Liberal Democrat gain over Conservative Hadleigh, Suffolk
LD 642 (36.2%; +12.0)
Con 460 (25.9%; -5.6)
Lab 397 (22.4%; +5.8)
UKIP 204 (11.5%; -11.3)
Grn 70 (3.9%; -1.0)
Edit: Conservative lose their majority in Suffolk CC.
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Post by Antiochian on Sept 23, 2016 10:41:56 GMT
Liberal Democrat gain over Conservative Hadleigh, Suffolk LD 642 (36.2%; +12.0) Con 460 (25.9%; -5.6) Lab 397 (22.4%; +5.8) UKIP 204 (11.5%; -11.3) Grn 70 (3.9%; -1.0) Edit: Conservative lose their majority in Suffolk CC. Oh happy day.... |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 23, 2016 10:44:56 GMT
As the original source is the leader of the Labour Group on that council, I would assume it's true. I see Arley and Whitacre ward is within the Nuneaton constituency, so will being huge pleasure to Labour people in that area. If the boundary changes go through, then it will be in North Warwickshire constituency. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 23, 2016 10:49:45 GMT
I have woken up to a parallel universe in which Labour had a good by-election night. Hopefully a sign of things to come  |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 23, 2016 11:04:52 GMT
Not mentioned here (or anywhere else I have looked) but I do believe that Allerdale DC gain gives Labour outright control? It does indeed-with a majority of 2. |
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Sept 23, 2016 11:08:40 GMT
Wonderful to see the Tories have such a bad night!
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