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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 29, 2022 21:29:40 GMT
650. Missed the "0". That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65. I think (so may be misremembering) that the Parish of Woodcott formerly elected 1 councillor to the joint council of Wrenbury and Woodcott. The population of Woodcott (IIRC) was 9. All of whom had the same surname! If there had been a casual vacancy I'm not sure how they could find the ten electors to require a by-election . . .
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Post by johnloony on Jun 30, 2022 21:49:50 GMT
That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65. According to the new census the UK population has crept up almost to 70,000,000, annoyingly breaking the nice 650/65,000,000 symmetry. Where did you get 70,000,000 from? On the news yesterday they were saying about 67,000,000.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 1, 2022 8:21:30 GMT
The population of England and Wales on 21 March 2021 was 59,597,300.
Add in ~7.4 million for N. Ireland and Scotland and you get just under 67 million people.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 1, 2022 9:04:51 GMT
According to the new census the UK population has crept up almost to 70,000,000, annoyingly breaking the nice 650/65,000,000 symmetry. Where did you get 70,000,000 from? On the news yesterday they were saying about 67,000,000. Odd, the press release I saw said 69,something,something which is what made me notice it. Don't know where I would have lost 3 million people. Hmmm... can't find it. But the next annual population estimate for Scotland is in September, so that will give close to accurate total prior to next year's census data.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 1, 2022 9:46:19 GMT
Where did you get 70,000,000 from? On the news yesterday they were saying about 67,000,000. Odd, the press release I saw said 69,something,something which is what made me notice it. Don't know where I would have lost 3 million people. Hmmm... can't find it. But the next annual population estimate for Scotland is in September, so that will give close to accurate total prior to next year's census data. The figures I saw were 66,9something,something.
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Post by greenchristian on Jul 2, 2022 13:56:44 GMT
Where did you get 70,000,000 from? On the news yesterday they were saying about 67,000,000. Odd, the press release I saw said 69,something,something which is what made me notice it. Don't know where I would have lost 3 million people. Have you looked behind the sofa?
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Post by European Lefty on Jul 2, 2022 14:30:16 GMT
Clearly they accidentally miscounted some deranged hippopotamuses as people
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Post by iainbhx on Jul 3, 2022 21:50:22 GMT
That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65. According to the new census the UK population has crept up almost to 70,000,000, annoyingly breaking the nice 650/65,000,000 symmetry. 2000 population as a district councillor? You lucky lucky basterd! My ward was 15,500 electors, 20,000+ people. Just over 20,000 electors for mine 28,378 population at the last census. But we had too many councillors, a rule that hasn't been applied to the other mets.
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Post by greenhert on Jul 5, 2022 10:46:16 GMT
In 1950 in the now abolished Brixton constituency the Conservative candidate was Anthony Herbert Foord (yes, with two 'o's). Is Richard Foord any relation of his?
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Post by jamie on Jul 8, 2022 22:19:51 GMT
Had anybody got a link to the poll substantiating the headline?
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Post by John Chanin on Jul 9, 2022 6:46:32 GMT
Most likely it's a 'voodoo' poll based on responses to the Daily Mail in comments. It might be nothing more than a staffer sent out to elicit suitable vox pops. Like many others I find the Mail's position very curious. I assume it's Dacre - either misplaced loyalty to johnson, or he's angling for some high honour in the usual resignation list. Perhaps a dukedom? We haven’t had many of those in the last 50 years.
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 9, 2022 10:32:17 GMT
Yes its almost totally Dacre's doing (as was their deranged coverage of Beergate) Exactly why, though, might take a psychologist to properly answer.
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Post by johnloony on Jul 9, 2022 20:38:42 GMT
Most likely it's a 'voodoo' poll based on responses to the Daily Mail in comments. It might be nothing more than a staffer sent out to elicit suitable vox pops. Like many others I find the Mail's position very curious. I assume it's Dacre - either misplaced loyalty to johnson, or he's angling for some high honour in the usual resignation list. Perhaps a dukedom? We haven’t had many of those in the last 50 years. I doubt if it’s based on any sort of poll of any type, or even a few voxpops. It’s a headline which exists inside the brain of a fantasy deluded reactionary newspaper editor, and the story then writes itself without any substantial input from reality. If it happens to coincide with what a minority of Conservative voters think, then it is enough to sell the newspapers.
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Post by john07 on Jul 10, 2022 0:22:21 GMT
Odd, the press release I saw said 69,something,something which is what made me notice it. Don't know where I would have lost 3 million people. Have you looked behind the sofa? Or under the bed? They might have been Labour supporters?
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Post by ColinJ on Jul 16, 2022 6:24:59 GMT
Can anyone supply me with a SOPN for Kenton ward, London Borough of Brent, for the May 2022 election?
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 16, 2022 7:12:43 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Jul 16, 2022 17:23:38 GMT
Is Harriett Baldwin, current MP for West Worcestershire, likely to achieve some sort of title as so many of her predecessors (all since 1908, in fact, and many before then) who have represented a parliamentary constituency containing Malvern have?
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Post by johnloony on Jul 16, 2022 23:50:55 GMT
(1) Should Kemi Badenoch be pronounced "Bad-e-noch" or "Bay-de-noch"? I have always called her "Bad-enoch" (and I have always liked the fact that there is a black MP named "Bad Enoch"), but I have noticed during the leadership election campaign that she is variously referred to by either pronunciation. During the Channel 4 debate, Krishnan Guru-Murthy even used both pronunciations more than one.
(2) It suddenly occurs to me that the name "Badenoch" also occurs as part of the name of the parliamentary constituency of Inverness Et Cetera. In that context, I have also always called it "Bad-enoch" rather than "Bay-de-noch". But perhaps I am wrong there too? I have noticed that I have sometimes been incorrect about the pronunciations of other Scottish parliamentary constituencies (for example, it was only a few years ago that I realised that "Rutherglen" was like "other" and not like "truth").
There might even be a connection between the two. I think Kemi's husband is Hamish. Perhaps his surname originally came from the geographical area.
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Post by maxque on Jul 17, 2022 3:56:46 GMT
(1) Should Kemi Badenoch be pronounced "Bad-e-noch" or "Bay-de-noch"? I have always called her "Bad-enoch" (and I have always liked the fact that there is a black MP named "Bad Enoch"), but I have noticed during the leadership election campaign that she is variously referred to by either pronunciation. During the Channel 4 debate, Krishnan Guru-Murthy even used both pronunciations more than one. (2) It suddenly occurs to me that the name "Badenoch" also occurs as part of the name of the parliamentary constituency of Inverness Et Cetera. In that context, I have also always called it "Bad-enoch" rather than "Bay-de-noch". But perhaps I am wrong there too? I have noticed that I have sometimes been incorrect about the pronunciations of other Scottish parliamentary constituencies (for example, it was only a few years ago that I realised that "Rutherglen" was like "other" and not like "truth"). There might even be a connection between the two. I think Kemi's husband is Hamish. Perhaps his surname originally came from the geographical area. I would strongly assume there is a link between the family name and the location, which is one of the old Lordship of Scotland.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 17, 2022 9:05:22 GMT
(1) Should Kemi Badenoch be pronounced "Bad-e-noch" or "Bay-de-noch"? I have always called her "Bad-enoch" (and I have always liked the fact that there is a black MP named "Bad Enoch"), but I have noticed during the leadership election campaign that she is variously referred to by either pronunciation. During the Channel 4 debate, Krishnan Guru-Murthy even used both pronunciations more than one. (2) It suddenly occurs to me that the name "Badenoch" also occurs as part of the name of the parliamentary constituency of Inverness Et Cetera. In that context, I have also always called it "Bad-enoch" rather than "Bay-de-noch". But perhaps I am wrong there too? I have noticed that I have sometimes been incorrect about the pronunciations of other Scottish parliamentary constituencies (for example, it was only a few years ago that I realised that "Rutherglen" was like "other" and not like "truth"). There might even be a connection between the two. I think Kemi's husband is Hamish. Perhaps his surname originally came from the geographical area. Bad N Ock It needs the precise clarity of diction to provide 3 syllables.
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