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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 17, 2022 11:17:55 GMT
I think I still have the 1992 Times Guide at home. It will be easier to scan through the results on there. Its a real shame that Keele site went down..
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 17, 2022 11:18:52 GMT
The highest was 2.2% in Glasgow Maryhill in 1997. Their candidate was Lorna Blair, whose name was presumably the reason for most of those votes.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 17, 2022 11:29:45 GMT
I think I still have the 1992 Times Guide at home. It will be easier to scan through the results on there. Its a real shame that Keele site went down..Amen to that.
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Post by johnloony on Jun 17, 2022 13:15:26 GMT
My book* says that the highest NLP vote in 1992 was 665, compared with a total of 62,754 for 309 candidates.
* from 1992 to 2005, before the Times Guide to the House of Commons was published, I used to cut out (from the newspaper) and stick in (in an exercise book) the results of the general election, so that I could have the results in geographical order rather than alphabetical order. I had it divided into the nations, sub-divided into regions, counties, and small local groups (so that I could calculate the results for hypothetical STV constituencies). By 2010 I still bought two copies of the newspaper for the purpose, but never got round to bothering with the cutting and sorting.
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Post by frankyank on Jun 23, 2022 14:51:42 GMT
Would anyone know which constituency can be described as the best “anti-bellwether” - in the sense that it has consistently experienced swings contrary to the national mood. I.e. a seat which had swung toward Labour in 2019, toward the Tories in 2017, etc. Not looking for seats exclusively changing hands. I understand 2015 can be considered somewhat of a wash, a seat gain for ConservatIves at the expense of Labour, although the latter theoretically “gained” in the popular vote overall. I’m not particularly picky on the boundary redraws, so any of a constituency’s major predecessor seats are fair game.
Bonus points for a Scottish seat - perhaps just as sums of unionist vs SNP-Greens.
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jun 26, 2022 8:33:34 GMT
What's the total number of council seats (borough, district, county, unitary, London borough, metropolitan borough) in the UK?
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 26, 2022 9:00:11 GMT
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jun 26, 2022 9:27:52 GMT
Thank you! I was way out...
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Post by froome on Jun 26, 2022 10:11:47 GMT
Thank you! I was way out... Which way?
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 26, 2022 10:56:41 GMT
I don't think the City of London or Scilly Isles are included, which would take the total to over 20k (but only until next year's changes kick in)
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Post by jamesdoyle on Jun 29, 2022 8:10:02 GMT
Thank you! I was way out... Which way? For some reason I had 40k in my head.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 29, 2022 11:05:32 GMT
I think it might have been answered before, but if so I have forgotten the reason - why were the 1986 local elections held on May 8th rather than May 1st?
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 29, 2022 11:12:25 GMT
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Post by peterl on Jun 29, 2022 13:40:38 GMT
For some reason I had 40k in my head. And if parish councillors were to be included, there are about 100,000, meaning if every seat is filled about 1 in 65 Britons are councillors.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 29, 2022 13:42:58 GMT
For some reason I had 40k in my head. And if parish councillors were to be included, there are about 100,000, meaning if every seat is filled about 1 in 65 Britons are councillors.
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Post by peterl on Jun 29, 2022 13:44:12 GMT
And if parish councillors were to be included, there are about 100,000, meaning if every seat is filled about 1 in 65 Britons are councillors. 650. Missed the "0".
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 29, 2022 16:41:53 GMT
650. Missed the "0". That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65.
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Post by peterl on Jun 29, 2022 16:50:20 GMT
650. Missed the "0". That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65. My own parish of Bradpole comes out at 1:194. Nearb Bridport, a town council, is 1:375. The lowest ratio I can find for a non-grouped parish in Dorset is Chettle, 1:13, 5 councillors for 67 people.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 29, 2022 18:43:25 GMT
650. Missed the "0". That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65. According to the new census the UK population has crept up almost to 70,000,000, annoyingly breaking the nice 650/65,000,000 symmetry. 2000 population as a district councillor? You lucky lucky basterd! My ward was 15,500 electors, 20,000+ people.
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 29, 2022 19:25:36 GMT
That has got me musing about political proportions at all levels- MPs of course are 1: 100,000 and the sum could hardly be easier. The principal councillors, the subject of the original question, are about 1:3250. When I was a district councillor I had a little over 2000 people in my ward- that's total populaton not electors- which sounds a bit low, but of course I was sharing the same people with county councillors who had a much higher ratio. My parish has a population of just over 1000 and 7 councillors so say 1:145. I guess there must be some pcs with ratios as low as Peter's 1:65. According to the new census the UK population has crept up almost to 70,000,000, annoyingly breaking the nice 650/65,000,000 symmetry. 2000 population as a district councillor? You lucky lucky basterd! My ward was 15,500 electors, 20,000+ people. single member ward, and about 8 miles across, and two very different rural parishes, so there's swings & roundabouts. Ashford's population is now 140k ( or 135k in 2021 according to the census!) so the councillors will average nearer 3000 population each, still generally in single member wards. My ward still exists with the same boundaries but they changed the name!
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