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Post by greatkingrat on Sept 24, 2016 14:08:44 GMT
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Post by thirdchill on Sept 24, 2016 14:13:31 GMT
What is the lowest number of votes won by any member of this forum in a local election? My own 77 votes in Romsey ward in Cambridge was fairly spectacular but I'm sure johnloony has beaten that - IIRC perhaps as few as 9 votes in a Bensham Manor by-election ? Please submit your bids.. Can't compete with that, despite standing as a conservative in Little Hulton 317 votes this year.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 24, 2016 14:19:28 GMT
Interesting - I've often considered the potential for infiltrating the Liberals (when they are at a low point) and transforming it into some kind of right-wing party (a bit like the way they did with the FPO). Could be something potentially worth doing were UKIP to implode Simon Knott is an interesting one. He was still going strong in the 1980s as councillor for Broadway but I hadn't realised how long prior to that he had been active (he was first elected to H&F in 1974 but had contested the ward in all elections since 1964 and presumably had been active in the old Hammersmith LB prior to that)
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 24, 2016 14:30:34 GMT
Stood as an "independent" Liberal in Hammersmith, against an SDP candidate, at the 1983 GE - one of a handful of seats where that happened.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 24, 2016 14:32:39 GMT
Interesting - I've often considered the potential for infiltrating the Liberals (when they are at a low point) and transforming it into some kind of right-wing party (a bit like the way they did with the FPO). Could be something potentially worth doing were UKIP to implode Simon Knott is an interesting one. He was still going strong in the 1980s as councillor for Broadway but I hadn't realised how long prior to that he had been active (he was first elected to H&F in 1974 but had contested the ward in all elections since 1964 and presumably had been active in the old Hammersmith LB prior to that) To add to greatkingrat 's post. There's quite a bit about him in Paul Foot's "Race and Immigration in British politics" originally published in 1965. I contacted Michael Meadowcroft about him a while back and he also told me that he knew who he was when he turned up at Liberal conference as he had been despatched to Islington to interview Lomas to find out what he was up to, which became pretty obvious pretty quickly. I seem to remember he also may have claimed to be some sort of Baptist minister, but I may have that mixed up with someone else. I can check the book when I get home.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 24, 2016 14:36:09 GMT
Stood as an "independent" Liberal in Hammersmith, against an SDP candidate, at the 1983 GE - one of a handful of seats where that happened. Indeed thats when I first became aware of him
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 24, 2016 14:45:41 GMT
Interesting - I've often considered the potential for infiltrating the Liberals (when they are at a low point) and transforming it into some kind of right-wing party (a bit like the way they did with the FPO). Could be something potentially worth doing were UKIP to implode Simon Knott is an interesting one. He was still going strong in the 1980s as councillor for Broadway but I hadn't realised how long prior to that he had been active (he was first elected to H&F in 1974 but had contested the ward in all elections since 1964 and presumably had been active in the old Hammersmith LB prior to that)He stood as an Independent Liberal in the Barons Court constituency as early as the 1959 general election.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 24, 2016 16:17:41 GMT
Interesting - I've often considered the potential for infiltrating the Liberals (when they are at a low point) and transforming it into some kind of right-wing party (a bit like the way they did with the FPO). Didn't that already happen in 1989? Just that nobody noticed until the Orange Bookers came public.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 24, 2016 16:30:40 GMT
What happened in 1989 exactly?
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Post by J.G.Harston on Sept 24, 2016 23:00:42 GMT
What happened in 1989 exactly? LibDem/SDP merger. Am I misremembering?
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 25, 2016 1:13:12 GMT
What happened in 1989 exactly? LibDem/SDP merger. Am I misremembering? That was 1988.
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 25, 2016 7:38:12 GMT
What happened in 1989 exactly? The first Green Surge?
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 26, 2016 1:46:24 GMT
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Post by krollo on Sept 26, 2016 7:17:17 GMT
Liverpool Walton had a 9.0% second place in 2015; I imagine Liverpool seats could get even lower in some years
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 26, 2016 7:33:34 GMT
IN 1945 the Conservative candidate came second in West Ham, Silvertown with 4.8% of the vote
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 26, 2016 9:58:57 GMT
Yes, I remember seeing that result and doing a double take
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Post by anthony on Sept 26, 2016 10:27:57 GMT
Interesting - I've often considered the potential for infiltrating the Liberals (when they are at a low point) and transforming it into some kind of right-wing party (a bit like the way they did with the FPO). Could be something potentially worth doing were UKIP to implode It seems to me that UKIP have already infiltrated the Liberal Party ( www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/liberal-party-urges-supporters-vote-ukip/story-26154057-detail/story.html) - although I'm not sure how one tells if they're at a particularly low point. If you meant the Liberal Democrats, well
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Post by mrhell on Sept 26, 2016 14:20:11 GMT
New LiberalsLooking at the 1964 London borough results and there are a crop of New Liberal candidates in Islington (primarily in the Eastern and Southern wards) often standing against 'official' Liberal candidates. Had a look at the general election results for 1964 and indeed an AE Lomas was a New Liberal candidate in Islington East then, securing a not negligible 2,000 votes Anything more known ? I assume he's the same as this 91 year old chap who was in the BNP at some point especially given later comments in this thread. www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/8135542.Stroud_general_election_coverage__Alan_Lomas___independent/
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 26, 2016 14:27:42 GMT
New LiberalsLooking at the 1964 London borough results and there are a crop of New Liberal candidates in Islington (primarily in the Eastern and Southern wards) often standing against 'official' Liberal candidates. Had a look at the general election results for 1964 and indeed an AE Lomas was a New Liberal candidate in Islington East then, securing a not negligible 2,000 votes Anything more known ? I assume he's the same as this 91 year old chap who was in the BNP at some point especially given later comments in this thread. www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/8135542.Stroud_general_election_coverage__Alan_Lomas___independent/Probably. His brief biography in The Times Guide for 1964 goes: " Mr. Alan Lomas is an electrical engineer and former shop steward in the Electrical Trades Union. Born June, 1918; elementary education. Member of Labour Party, 1945-48, joining the Conservatives during the Suez affair."
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Post by warofdreams on Sept 26, 2016 17:31:17 GMT
Another recent example was the Haltemprice and Howden by-election in 2008; the Green candidate came second with 7.4% of the vote. The all-time record is East Kerry in 1885, where the Conservative came second with 1.0% of the vote - 30 votes to the winner's 3,069.
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