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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 30, 2020 16:56:33 GMT
Bedford is another example, although it doesn't show up on local election maps because the Conservative side is largely LibDem in local elections. Brighton sort of does it as well although it's more of an outer-inner divide, Gloucester is similar where the strongest Tory wards are on the eastern border but again it's more that Labour are stronger in the town centre and the Tories on the outside. There's a trace of it in Exeter as well but it's so Labour dominated it doesn't really show up. I guess in Crawley it's partly because some of those bits in the east are like a separate town divided by the railway line that got absorbed. I think Crawley is because it's effectively a new town so the reason why the wealthier bits are down wind was never relevant because it grew up post highly polluting industry. NB, Portsmouth's wealthier areas are in the east too (as well as on the seafront obviously), with the west being much more deprived. That's partly because of where the Naval Base is (and thus where the industry was) which is an immovable point and that the west of the city (because of the base, which used to include facilities right up the west side of Portsea Island, even more so than now) was very heavily bombed so that was where the council estates were build post war (alongside the old racecourse site in Paulsgrove on the mainland). Also Plymouth - same reasons more or less I guess
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 30, 2020 16:57:54 GMT
Also Luton is similar to Bedford in as much as the better parts of town are generally on the East side but a lot of the wards there vote Lib Dem locally
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Post by Penddu on Jul 31, 2020 5:27:51 GMT
Some of the M4 junction names in Wales are wrong - Bridgend should be Sarn, St Fagans is Cardiff West, for example
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Aug 1, 2020 14:34:48 GMT
Very unusual for the Conservative side of town to be on the east. Not in the South,especially in modern times. Reading is a good example because you've got the 4 large traditionally Labour voting council estates of Whitley,Southcote,Norcot and Coley Park, plus poorer areas of private housing like Calcot and the Oxford Road on the west side. Whereas,on the east side,you've only got Newtown and Lower Earley,which are significant areas of poorer private housing.Earley,Woodley,Caversham,the Shinfield Road area (Church ward on Reading and Shinfield North ward on Wokingham) and Emmer Green - all traditionally quite Tory. In fact Reading West stayed Labour till 2010,when Reading East was Tory from 2005 onwards. But now Reading East is Labour with an increased majority and Labour couldn't win Reading West at peak Corbyn.
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Post by European Lefty on Aug 1, 2020 18:33:31 GMT
Very unusual for the Conservative side of town to be on the east. Not in the South,especially in modern times. Reading is a good example because you've got the 4 large traditionally Labour voting council estates of Whitley,Southcote,Norcot and Coley Park, plus poorer areas of private housing like Calcot and the Oxford Road on the west side. Whereas,on the east side,you've only got Newtown and Lower Earley,which are significant areas of poorer private housing.Earley,Woodley,Caversham,the Shinfield Road area (Church ward on Reading and Shinfield North ward on Wokingham) and Emmer Green - all traditionally quite Tory. In fact Reading West stayed Labour till 2010,when Reading East was Tory from 2005 onwards. But now Reading East is Labour with an increased majority and Labour couldn't win Reading West at peak Corbyn. That's one example, that doesn't mean it isn't unusual.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Aug 1, 2020 21:41:20 GMT
Not in the South,especially in modern times. Reading is a good example because you've got the 4 large traditionally Labour voting council estates of Whitley,Southcote,Norcot and Coley Park, plus poorer areas of private housing like Calcot and the Oxford Road on the west side. Whereas,on the east side,you've only got Newtown and Lower Earley,which are significant areas of poorer private housing.Earley,Woodley,Caversham,the Shinfield Road area (Church ward on Reading and Shinfield North ward on Wokingham) and Emmer Green - all traditionally quite Tory. In fact Reading West stayed Labour till 2010,when Reading East was Tory from 2005 onwards. But now Reading East is Labour with an increased majority and Labour couldn't win Reading West at peak Corbyn. That's one example, that doesn't mean it isn't unusual. Other posters have shown it and Crawley isn't unique.
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 1, 2020 22:50:58 GMT
Hounslow 2018. Lab 51 (+2) C 9 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Osterley and Spring Grove (2) No split wards in 2018. The Conservatives have since gained a seat in Feltham North at a by-election.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 7:17:14 GMT
Hounslow 2018. Lab 51 (+2) C 9 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Osterley and Spring Grove (2) No split wards in 2018. The Conservatives have since gained a seat in Feltham North at a by-election. This along with Haringey is an aesthetically pleasing map.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 2, 2020 8:53:38 GMT
Hounslow 2018. Lab 51 (+2) C 9 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Osterley and Spring Grove (2) No split wards in 2018. The Conservatives have since gained a seat in Feltham North at a by-election. This along with Haringey is an aesthetically pleasing map. A duck with a big chin taking flight.
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 2, 2020 9:10:08 GMT
Hounslow 2018. Lab 51 (+2) C 9 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Osterley and Spring Grove (2) No split wards in 2018. The Conservatives have since gained a seat in Feltham North at a by-election. For the record, that was on GE day.
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 2, 2020 13:50:52 GMT
Milton Keynes 2019. Changes based on 2015: Lab gain from C Bletchley West Stony Stratford LD gain from C Broughton Campbell Park and Old Woughton Monkston Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Bletchley Park is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Bradwell is 2LD/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Broughton is 2LD/1C and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Campbell Park and Old Woughton is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Loughton and Shenley is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Shenley Brook End is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Stantonbury is 2Lab/1C and Labour are defending in 2021. Tattenhoe is 2C/1Lab and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Milton Keynes 2018 is also up on LEAP, which completes the South East unitary councils for that year.
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Post by European Lefty on Aug 2, 2020 16:03:00 GMT
Milton Keynes 2019. Changes based on 2015: Lab gain from C Bletchley West Stony Stratford LD gain from C Broughton Campbell Park and Old Woughton Monkston Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Bletchley Park is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Bradwell is 2LD/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Broughton is 2LD/1C and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Campbell Park and Old Woughton is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Loughton and Shenley is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Shenley Brook End is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Stantonbury is 2Lab/1C and Labour are defending in 2021. Tattenhoe is 2C/1Lab and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Milton Keynes 2018 is also up on LEAP, which completes the South East unitary councils for that year. Wow, that is a mess! Especially when the split wards are taken into account
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 2, 2020 17:01:17 GMT
A correction to my previous post: in fact all the 2018 unitary council elections are now entered into LEAP following the Milton Keynes update above. Waltham Forest 2018. Lab 46 (+2) C 914 14 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Hale End and Highams Park (2) Split wards in 2018 were: Valley: 2C/1Lab
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 2, 2020 19:04:32 GMT
A correction to my previous post: in fact all the 2018 unitary council elections are now entered into LEAP following the Milton Keynes update above. Waltham Forest 2018. Lab 46 (+2) C 914 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Hale End and Highams Park (2) Split wards in 2018 were: Valley: 2C/1Lab You'd hope the Tories would win a majority with over 95% of the seats !
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 2, 2020 19:29:45 GMT
A correction to my previous post: in fact all the 2018 unitary council elections are now entered into LEAP following the Milton Keynes update above. Waltham Forest 2018. Lab 46 (+2) C 914 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Hale End and Highams Park (2) Split wards in 2018 were: Valley: 2C/1Lab You'd hope the Tories would win a majority with over 95% of the seats ! wishful thinking on somebody's part?
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 2, 2020 22:04:14 GMT
A correction to my previous post: in fact all the 2018 unitary council elections are now entered into LEAP following the Milton Keynes update above. Waltham Forest 2018. Lab 46 (+2) C 914 (-2). Changes based on 2014: Lab gain from C Hale End and Highams Park (2) Split wards in 2018 were: Valley: 2C/1Lab You'd hope the Tories would win a majority with over 95% of the seats ! Alas, the latest cuts to local government involved 900 Conservative councillors in Waltham Forest becoming unexpectedly surplus to requirements.
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Post by ricmk on Aug 3, 2020 12:28:18 GMT
Milton Keynes 2019. Changes based on 2015: Lab gain from C Bletchley West Stony Stratford LD gain from C Broughton Campbell Park and Old Woughton Monkston Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Bletchley Park is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Bradwell is 2LD/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Broughton is 2LD/1C and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Campbell Park and Old Woughton is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Loughton and Shenley is 2C/1Lab and Labour are defending in 2021. Shenley Brook End is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Stantonbury is 2Lab/1C and Labour are defending in 2021. Tattenhoe is 2C/1Lab and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Milton Keynes 2018 is also up on LEAP, which completes the South East unitary councils for that year. Wow, that is a mess! Especially when the split wards are taken into account It might be a complex map, but it's much less messy than it might seem. And the number of split wards is a reflection of 3 strong campaigning parties which I'm not sure other areas have so widely, as well as a demanding electorate who have no difficulty in voting for strong candidates across rather than within parties. However you can make a couple of stereotypes of the Tories doing well in the rural areas to the edge of MK, and the south western developments of high value housing. Labour doing well on their railway spine - Bletchley, Woughton, Wolverton. And the Lib Dems maintaining strength in historic areas and suburbia. One minor note - Bradwell ward is no longer split, we managed to take the final Labour seat back in 2016. The Campbell Park and Old Woughton seat up in 2021 is my seat.
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Post by David Ashforth on Aug 5, 2020 16:38:05 GMT
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 6, 2020 21:37:16 GMT
Newham 2018. Lab 60. No change based on 2014. No split wards, obviously.
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 8, 2020 14:04:36 GMT
Solihull 2019. Changes based on 2015: Grn gain from C Castle Bromwich Shirley South Shirley West Ind gain from C Knowle Lab gain from UKIP Kingshurst and Fordbridge LD gain from C Elmdon Lyndon Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Castle Bromwich is 2Grn/1C and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Knowle is 2C/1Ind and the Conservatives are defending in 2021. Lyndon is 2LD/1C and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. Olton is 2C/1LD and the Liberal Democrats are defending in 2021. That completes the West Midlands metropolitan county for 2018 and 2019 on LEAP.
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