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Post by David Ashforth on Aug 9, 2019 9:55:36 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 9, 2019 10:14:12 GMT
These maps are great for picking up odd detached parts. Eg a bit of Gloucester Rural District in the middle of Gloucester County Borough: maps.nls.uk/view/196758254The old mental hospital and its grounds, for some arcane reason no doubt lost in the mists of time. I think this was "rectified" by the 1950s. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 9, 2019 10:14:14 GMT
It's right, and you can see it in more detail here. It's made up of one building, 40 Wellington Street. Must admit I don't know why at the moment. Edit: An answer is suggested in the Survey of London www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol36/pp195-196. 40 Wellington Street was "the parsonage house of the parish of St. Mary le Strand" from 1726, although locally situate in St Paul's Covent Garden. Presumably it was included with St Mary le Strand for taxation and parish governance. |
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Post by warofdreams on Aug 9, 2019 11:38:20 GMT
These are fascinating - looking at the York one, I hadn't realised that York Castle was a parish, not forming part of the city, and I'm trying to work out what the markings around Treasurer's House, just north-east of the Minster, indicate. maps.nls.uk/view/196757495 |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 9, 2019 11:49:58 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the markings around Treasurer's House, just north-east of the Minster, indicate. maps.nls.uk/view/196757495According to the key, it means a National Trust Area. |
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Post by YL on Aug 9, 2019 12:05:39 GMT
These are fascinating - looking at the York one, I hadn't realised that York Castle was a parish, not forming part of the city, and I'm trying to work out what the markings around Treasurer's House, just north-east of the Minster, indicate. maps.nls.uk/view/196757495See also Nottingham Rural (sic) District, which appears to have just consisted of the Shire Hall. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 9, 2019 12:13:29 GMT
An oddity - in Dudley CB, Castle ward *does not* include the Castle or any of Castle Hill. It does, however, include St James's church, which is therefore not in St James's ward.
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Post by yorkshireluke on Aug 9, 2019 12:33:35 GMT
Lovely map of all the wards in Yorkshire here: (Yes I'm aware I missed a bit just North of Richmondshire, I'll fix after the upcoming by-elections)  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 9, 2019 12:39:05 GMT
Fantastic. Whats the dark red stuff in Barnsley? BIG ?
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Post by yorkshireluke on Aug 9, 2019 12:52:57 GMT
Fantastic. Whats the dark red stuff in Barnsley? BIG ? Democrats & Veterans. |
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Post by Adrian on Aug 9, 2019 13:47:21 GMT
It's right, and you can see it in more detail here. It's made up of one building, 40 Wellington Street. Must admit I don't know why at the moment. Edit: An answer is suggested in the Survey of London www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol36/pp195-196. 40 Wellington Street was "the parsonage house of the parish of St. Mary le Strand" from 1726, although locally situate in St Paul's Covent Garden. Presumably it was included with St Mary le Strand for taxation and parish governance. This is one of the few map sets I haven't spent hours poring over, so that'll give me something to do on wet summer evenings! One thing that strikes me from this London map is that by 1947 the three Hornsey parts of Stoke Newington were still joined together in their own ward. I wonder how much this mattered to local people. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 9, 2019 13:50:07 GMT
One thing that strikes me from this London map is that by 1947 the three Hornsey parts of Stoke Newington were still joined together in their own ward. I wonder how much this mattered to local people. I think those three little slivers remained outside Stoke Newington and outside the LCC until the very end in 1965. |
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Post by alexrichards on Aug 9, 2019 15:50:26 GMT
These maps are great for picking up odd detached parts. Eg a bit of Gloucester Rural District in the middle of Gloucester County Borough: maps.nls.uk/view/196758254The old mental hospital and its grounds, for some arcane reason no doubt lost in the mists of time. I think this was "rectified" by the 1950s.
I believe it'll be because the Mental Hospital was run by the County government. Probably the NHS removed the need to safeguard the facilities for the ratepayers by making sure the county owned the building itself.
Alas, these maps, though wonderful, still don't let me answer the question as to how Shirebrook parish was divided into wards, a division which was used to create Bolsover district's wards in 1973.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 9, 2019 16:13:39 GMT
The old mental hospital and its grounds, for some arcane reason no doubt lost in the mists of time. I think this was "rectified" by the 1950s.
I believe it'll be because the Mental Hospital was run by the County government. Probably the NHS removed the need to safeguard the facilities for the ratepayers by making sure the county owned the building itself.
Alas, these maps, though wonderful, still don't let me answer the question as to how Shirebrook parish was divided into wards, a division which was used to create Bolsover district's wards in 1973.
What sort of period are you looking at for this info? I can have a trawl of the BNA if that's helpful. A cursory search reveals a lot of reporting of Shirebrook council itself. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 9, 2019 17:04:59 GMT
The old mental hospital and its grounds, for some arcane reason no doubt lost in the mists of time. I think this was "rectified" by the 1950s.
I believe it'll be because the Mental Hospital was run by the County government. Probably the NHS removed the need to safeguard the facilities for the ratepayers by making sure the county owned the building itself.
Alas, these maps, though wonderful, still don't let me answer the question as to how Shirebrook parish was divided into wards, a division which was used to create Bolsover district's wards in 1973.
Have you tried here borders.ukdataservice.ac.uk/bds.html for the 1971 boundaries or did you need something earlier? |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 9, 2019 19:39:25 GMT
The old mental hospital and its grounds, for some arcane reason no doubt lost in the mists of time. I think this was "rectified" by the 1950s. I believe it'll be because the Mental Hospital was run by the County government. Probably the NHS removed the need to safeguard the facilities for the ratepayers by making sure the county owned the building itself.
Alas, these maps, though wonderful, still don't let me answer the question as to how Shirebrook parish was divided into wards, a division which was used to create Bolsover district's wards in 1973.
Maps of Dunblane before 1973 show the war memorial opposite St. Mary's Church was a small island of the County surrounded by the Burgh, and remained so even when it was buried under the bypass. |
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 9, 2019 20:49:04 GMT
Wigan 2019. Changes based on 2015: C gain from Lab Orrell Ind gain from Lab Bryn Ind Network gain from Lab Atherton Hindley Lab gain from "Wigan Independent Conservative" Standish with Langtree   Split wards are (not taking account of by-elections or defections): Hindley is 2Lab/1Ind Network and Labour are defending in 2020. Shevington with Lower Ground is 2Lab/1Wigan Ind and Labour are defending in 2020. Standish with Langtree is 2C/1Lab and the Conservatives are defending in 2020.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 10, 2019 9:03:07 GMT
Lovely map of all the wards in Yorkshire here: (Yes I'm aware I missed a bit just North of Richmondshire, I'll fix after the upcoming by-elections) Hold on - the Lib Dems won Knottingley ??  |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 10, 2019 9:45:14 GMT
By a big margin too, see the relevant election thread.
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 10, 2019 10:25:35 GMT
By a big margin too, see the relevant election thread. indeed, 63% from a standing start is rather remarkable. Does anyone know the story behind that? |
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