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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 30, 2016 9:26:14 GMT
Pretty good set of results from a Liberal point of view. Just as well really, since I see that in the next bunch we only have three candidates standing in 7 wards, and one of those (East Brighton) is apparently a Labour fiefdom (according to a very informative ward profile on the Brighton Argus website that popped up from a casual google - if only all local papers did something similar!) Just the sort of place where there should be a challenge, of course... Like many of the Brighton and Hove wards, East Brighton is large enough to be mixed. In this case it includes part of the Kemp Town seafront, which must be a reasonably good Conservative vote, but the majority is the large Whitehawk council estate which has had its notorious periods. It was where Maria Colwell was killed in 1973, one of the earliest and most notorious cases of child neglect. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jul 30, 2016 9:35:38 GMT
Pretty good set of results from a Liberal point of view. Just as well really, since I see that in the next bunch we only have three candidates standing in 7 wards, and one of those (East Brighton) is apparently a Labour fiefdom (according to a very informative ward profile on the Brighton Argus website that popped up from a casual google - if only all local papers did something similar!) Just the sort of place where there should be a challenge, of course... Like many of the Brighton and Hove wards, East Brighton is large enough to be mixed. In this case it includes part of the Kemp Town seafront, which must be a reasonably good Conservative vote, but the majority is the large Whitehawk council estate which has had its notorious periods. It was where Maria Colwell was killed in 1973, one of the earliest and most notorious cases of child neglect. Thanks for that. Still sounds fairly safe Labour territory to me, but all parties can be prone to taking for granted places they take to be safe. (Not a luxury that we have very often in the LDs, I think, but I suppose the relatively strong Tory challenge at the Carshalton bye-election could be cited as a case, given the circumstances of the vacancy.) In this case if I was UKIP I might fancy making a bit of a splash, especially with the local Labour party being on the naughty step IIRC; but I'm not sure they are clued up enough for that. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 30, 2016 10:40:38 GMT
Like many of the Brighton and Hove wards, East Brighton is large enough to be mixed. In this case it includes part of the Kemp Town seafront, which must be a reasonably good Conservative vote, but the majority is the large Whitehawk council estate which has had its notorious periods. It was where Maria Colwell was killed in 1973, one of the earliest and most notorious cases of child neglect. Thanks for that. Still sounds fairly safe Labour territory to me, but all parties can be prone to taking for granted places they take to be safe. (Not a luxury that we have very often in the LDs, I think, but I suppose the relatively strong Tory challenge at the Carshalton bye-election could be cited as a case, given the circumstances of the vacancy.) In this case if I was UKIP I might fancy making a bit of a splash, especially with the local Labour party being on the naughty step IIRC; but I'm not sure they are clued up enough for that. If you mean by 'the naughty step' to refer to the suspension of Brighton and Hove CLP, it doesn't really affect East Brighton where one of the other councillors is the Labour group and council leader Warren Morgan - a vociferous opponent of Momentum. I get the impression that the Corbyn supporters are concentrated in the studenty and middle-class parts of the city, not the old working-class council estate bits like East Brighton. |
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Post by John Chanin on Jul 30, 2016 11:03:57 GMT
Pretty good set of results from a Liberal point of view. Just as well really, since I see that in the next bunch we only have three candidates standing in 7 wards, and one of those (East Brighton) is apparently a Labour fiefdom (according to a very informative ward profile on the Brighton Argus website that popped up from a casual google - if only all local papers did something similar!) Just the sort of place where there should be a challenge, of course... Like many of the Brighton and Hove wards, East Brighton is large enough to be mixed. In this case it includes part of the Kemp Town seafront, which must be a reasonably good Conservative vote, but the majority is the large Whitehawk council estate which has had its notorious periods. It was where Maria Colwell was killed in 1973, one of the earliest and most notorious cases of child neglect. Although it is a long time ago, I was living in Brighton in 1973 and am fairly sure that Maria Colwell was killed on the Moulescoomb estate, not at Whitehawk. I have no idea what either estate is like now, but both were very run down at the time, although Whitehawk is considerably more isolated. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 30, 2016 11:27:56 GMT
Like many of the Brighton and Hove wards, East Brighton is large enough to be mixed. In this case it includes part of the Kemp Town seafront, which must be a reasonably good Conservative vote, but the majority is the large Whitehawk council estate which has had its notorious periods. It was where Maria Colwell was killed in 1973, one of the earliest and most notorious cases of child neglect. Although it is a long time ago, I was living in Brighton in 1973 and am fairly sure that Maria Colwell was killed on the Moulescoomb estate, not at Whitehawk. I have no idea what either estate is like now, but both were very run down at the time, although Whitehawk is considerably more isolated. According to this blog by a former Brighton policeman she lived on Maresfield Road, which looks like it is in Whitehawk to me. www.oldpolicecellsmuseum.org.uk/page/maria_colwell |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 30, 2016 14:01:30 GMT
It's surprising on one level that noone would stand as the seat was largely held via a personal vote so the candidate probably wouldnt have won anyway but how appealing is being the only Labour representative on a rural District council? I would imagine a much cushier number than being the only non-Labour representative on an urban council. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 31, 2016 7:59:39 GMT
Happy to concede that my knowledge is somewhat historical, and London has changed fast over the last 20 years. And faster and faster all the time John. When I moved originally I was advised very strongly not to go into the "Salisbury" pub. Now it is a great pub with good beer and thankfully all Victorian decor left unspoilt. I feel distinctly old and grey when I go in there, but as me and my mate often win the quiz, that sort of compensates.  Harringay ward, was of course mostly a Tory ward until the late 70s and one of the first Labour councillors was some guy called Jeremy Corbyn. I wonder whatever happened to him? The Salisbury was already pretty nice by 2009, if you could put up with all the Labour activists drinking there. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 7, 2016 19:32:39 GMT
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 8, 2016 0:50:30 GMT
Very interesting... Love the case law referred to from over a century ago! |
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Harringay ward, was of course mostly a Tory ward until the late 70s and one of the first Labour councillors was some guy called Jeremy Corbyn. I wonder whatever happened to him? 
