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Post by mrpastelito on Jul 15, 2016 20:31:26 GMT
He's been writing the same piece for well over a decade now and self-loathing middle class liberals fall for it every time. I think that's the first time ever I've been described as self-loathing. I'm about as self-loathing as Boris Johnson. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 15, 2016 21:22:55 GMT
He's been writing the same piece for well over a decade now and self-loathing middle class liberals fall for it every time. Yup. I got bored of all the calls to 'understand the downtrodden working classes who voted for Brexit' at about the same time it became clear that said (less than universally downtrodden) group wasn't going to return the favour. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 15, 2016 21:32:24 GMT
No doubt I'm some sort of fossil, but what on earth is a "hot take" and does it matter if it is capitalised? 'Fossil' was a hip new word once.  'Hip'!!!!! P-l-e-a-s-e!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 15, 2016 21:33:56 GMT
He's been writing the same piece for well over a decade now and self-loathing middle class liberals fall for it every time. I think that's the first time ever I've been described as self-loathing. I'm about as self-loathing as Boris Johnson. Nonsense and I don't know anything about you. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 15, 2016 21:41:45 GMT
'Fossil' was a hip new word once. 'Hip'!!!!! P-l-e-a-s-e!!!!!!!!!!!!! No! Join the NHS waiting list like everyone else! I'm here all week.. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 15, 2016 21:50:03 GMT
'Hip'!!!!! P-l-e-a-s-e!!!!!!!!!!!!! No! Join the NHS waiting list like everyone else! I'm here all week..Priceless. I am still in tears. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jul 15, 2016 21:58:11 GMT
NEWHAM Forest Gate North Anamul Islam (Labour Party) 1,150 Elisabeth Whitebread (The Green Party) 681 John Oxley (Conservative Party) 301 James Rumsby (Liberal Democrats) 57 Lab 52.5% (-5.1) Grn 31.1% (+17.2) Con 13.8% (+0.2) LD 2.6% (-2.5) Okay after a few months non-stop campaigning I can relax and fill in some detail here. (I've lived in Forest Gate for many years including about eighteen months in North and have been the local West Ham party chair and agent here.) Firstly the Lib Dem candidate announced his withdrawal but after the formal deadline to do so. There has been comment online about the lack of notice of this at the polling stations but IIUC legally his announcement has no standing. (Has there ever been a petition based on a "withdrawn" candidate polling more than the winning majority?) Secondly the Green growth may look impressive on the list but a big chunk of this is the election results catching up with recent demographic and membership changes. Gentrification has been especially noticeable in the "village" at the eastern end of the ward. The Newham Green Party is also a very different beast from two years ago with many new young enthusiastic activists, a lot of whom appear to live either in the village or in East Village in the Olympic Park (in the Stratford & New Town ward which had a council by-election last year on the same day as the general). This election comes only two months after the London elections when the Greens got their best Newham results in this corner of the borough (their Assembly candidate had also contested West Ham at the general) and Forest Gate North was the only place they came second (on both constituency and list). Over on the Green leadership election thread we've gone a bit into the Greens' current position and Davıd Boothroyd posted figures suggesting the Green vote in London is overall static with churn and population shift more than anything else driving the main shifts in their vote share. I can fill in more if people have questions. Finally this ward contains a certain road whose name has been immortalised on the telly. Yes, here is East London's real Albert Square. (Although it's not actually a square...) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 10:07:19 GMT
And right on cue, John Harris has yet another of his HOT TAKES on the "white working class" in the Graun  I have a lot of time for the ever excellent John Harris, one of the very few London hacks who, to use Jeff Stelling's famous words, does bother to 'go north of Rickmansworth not only when they go to the Edinburgh festival fringe'. He has actually lived in Somerset for many years, which I guess is still south of Rickmansworth but is decidedly not London. |
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Post by maxque on Jul 16, 2016 10:25:38 GMT
I have a lot of time for the ever excellent John Harris, one of the very few London hacks who, to use Jeff Stelling's famous words, does bother to 'go north of Rickmansworth not only when they go to the Edinburgh festival fringe'. He has actually lived in Somerset for many years, which I guess is still south of Rickmansworth but is decidedly not London. His website actually states he was born and grew in Cheshire (Wikipedia speficies Wilmslow) and it seems, according to the small bio blurb behind some of his books that in lived in Hay-on-Wye (Wales) at some point. |
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Post by middleenglander on Jul 20, 2016 17:26:46 GMT
A feature of the by-elections held on 14 July, which I have not seen remarked upon elsewhere, is that six of the ten were held in small (electorate less than 2,000) or reasonably small (electorate less than 3,500) single member wards / divisions. Furthermore a seventh by-election was held in a two member Gwynedd division where the electorate is less than another single member Gwynedd division held on the same day. Five of the six single member wards / divisions saw the seat change hands rising to six out of seven if a No Description candidate replacing an Independent in the small 2 member Gwynedd seat is considered to be a gain. The 10 by-elections held last week can be summarised in descending size of electorate by: | Authority | Ward / Division | Members | Electorate | Turnout | Reason | Previous Party | First elected | New Party | Outcome | | Gwynedd | Marchog | 2 | 1,554 | 20.8% | guilty of assault | Independent | 2012 | No Description | Change | | Gwynedd | Y Felinheli | 1 | 1,740 | 38.1% | now AM | Plaid Cymru | 2008 | Plaid Cymru | Hold | | North Norfolk | Astley | 1 | 1,806 | 42.8% | pressure of work | Conservative | 2015 | Liberal Democrat | Change | | Selby | Byram & Brotherton | 1 | 2,292 | 24.7% | death | Labour | 1995 | Conservative | Change | | Cornwall | Newquay Treviglas | 1 | 2,969 | 28.4% | personal | UKIP | 2013 | Liberal Democrat | Change | | Cornwall | St Teath & St Breward | 1 | 3,232 | 42.8% | poor health | Independent | 1979 | Liberal Democrat | Change | | Wiltshire | Trowbridge Grove | 1 | 3,353 | 27.4% | death | Independent | 1997 | Liberal Democrat | Change | | Islington | Barnsbury | 3 | 9,107 | 25.4% | now Deputy Mayor | Labour | 2006 | Labour | Hold | | Newham | Forest Gate North | 3 | 10,290 | 21.4% | advisor to Mayor | Labour | 2010 | Labour | Hold | | Bradford | Wibsey | 3 | 10,564 | 22.6% | death | Labour | 2006 | Labour | Hold |
To be continued |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jul 20, 2016 18:08:52 GMT
Minor correction - the final electorate for Forest Gate North was 10,290. (This is the figure given on the day and used for the expenses return.)
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Post by middleenglander on Jul 20, 2016 20:24:40 GMT
Minor correction - the final electorate for Forest Gate North was 10,290. (This is the figure given on the day and used for the expenses return.) That implies 8 spoilt papers which are not shown on the Council's website. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jul 20, 2016 21:10:53 GMT
There were indeed 8 spoils (3 over voting, 5 uncertain). The website notice is not as well formatted as some earlier ones - here are the ones for Beckton and Stratford and New Town. |
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