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Post by Penddu on Jul 1, 2016 8:32:40 GMT
Result Vale of Glamorgan Rhoose ward I'm afraid that the figures where I've written ish are only approximate as I didn't write them down Riley Independent 590ish Kemp Con 521 Loveluck Edwards Lab 401 Banner Independent 399 Perry Plaid 140ish Lynn Lib Dems 24 ish Pirate party 4 ish Independent hold I suppose you call that, doesn't really bode well for the Conservatives who hold the other ward seat in 10 months at full local authority election time when with two votes per voter the independent vote won't be split if they both stand again. Rhoose was a firm Conservative seat up until the last full election in 2012. Is this Rachel Banner of 'True Wales' fame (farce)? |
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Post by cefin on Jul 1, 2016 8:45:09 GMT
Result Vale of Glamorgan Rhoose ward I'm afraid that the figures where I've written ish are only approximate as I didn't write them down Riley Independent 590ish Kemp Con 521 Loveluck Edwards Lab 401 Banner Independent 399 Perry Plaid 140ish Lynn Lib Dems 24 ish Pirate party 4 ish Independent hold I suppose you call that, doesn't really bode well for the Conservatives who hold the other ward seat in 10 months at full local authority election time when with two votes per voter the independent vote won't be split if they both stand again. Rhoose was a firm Conservative seat up until the last full election in 2012. Is this Rachel Banner of 'True Wales' fame (farce)? You mean the Pontypool teacher who took on the entire Welsh political class and media with a budget of £4,000 in the Welsh greater powers referendum in 2011 gaining just under 300,000 votes for NO? You'll remember that referendum,? The one where the First Crybaby and his cohorts promised that a YES vote would not result in income tax powers being devolved to Wales ( in fact unbelievably that very statement was of course included in the question on the ballot paper) . In fact I quite clearly remember the First Crybaby declaring that he would be leading the opposition campaign if it was ever proposed that Assembly be given tax raising powers during a televised debate in Blackwood. So it seems that lying through your teeth isn't just confined to Remain / Leave referendums. And Yes. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 1, 2016 9:03:34 GMT
Is this Rachel Banner of 'True Wales' fame (farce)? You mean the Pontypool teacher who took on the entire Welsh political class and media with a budget of £4,000 in the Welsh greater powers referendum in 2011 gaining just under 300,000 votes for NO? You'll remember that referendum,? The one where the First Crybaby and his cohorts promised that a YES vote would not result in income tax powers being devolved to Wales ( in fact unbelievably that very statement was of course included in the question on the ballot paper) . In fact I quite clearly remember the First Crybaby declaring that he would be leading the opposition campaign if it was ever proposed that Assembly be given tax raising powers during a televised debate in Blackwood. So it seems that lying through your teeth isn't just confined to Remain / Leave referendums. And Yes. And Cefin is far to modest to mention that he was her agent. |
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Post by cefin on Jul 1, 2016 9:35:59 GMT
You mean the Pontypool teacher who took on the entire Welsh political class and media with a budget of £4,000 in the Welsh greater powers referendum in 2011 gaining just under 300,000 votes for NO? You'll remember that referendum,? The one where the First Crybaby and his cohorts promised that a YES vote would not result in income tax powers being devolved to Wales ( in fact unbelievably that very statement was of course included in the question on the ballot paper) . In fact I quite clearly remember the First Crybaby declaring that he would be leading the opposition campaign if it was ever proposed that Assembly be given tax raising powers during a televised debate in Blackwood. So it seems that lying through your teeth isn't just confined to Remain / Leave referendums. And Yes. And Cefin is far to modest to mention that he was her agent. Well not too modest as that is publicly available information. The fact is that the by election was caused by the tragic death in a road accident of Independent councillor Phil Clarke who was a popular and leading member of our little Independent group of 5 on the Vale of Glamorgan council. So quite naturally our group put up a candidate, Rachel Banner was a former friend and colleague of Phil Clarke and decided to stand with the support and help of the remaining members of Phil's former group on the council including of course myself. With 1,000 Independent votes split in this election and the Conservatives and Labour garnering 521 and 401 respectively it will be interesting if two Independents stand in 10 months time and with each voter due two votes thus being able to vote for both independents if they wish next time. Depending on who decides to stand. It could be quite interesting. I think that it's also fair to say that I don't really think much of the Lib Dems putting up a paper candidate from Sully who didn't so much as put a leaflet out, much less do anything else. It does really make a mockery of the democratic process but thems the rules and the Libs are perfectly entitled to heap further humiliation on their party if they choose to do so with results like this. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 1, 2016 9:48:34 GMT
And Cefin is far to modest to mention that he was her agent. I think that it's also fair to say that I don't really think much of the Lib Dems putting up a paper candidate from Sully who didn't so much as put a leaflet out, much less do anything else. It does really make a mockery of the democratic process but thems the rules and the Libs are perfectly entitled to heap further humiliation on their party if they choose to do so with results like this. A mockery of the democratic process? I don't even have the energy to argue with you on that point! |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 1, 2016 10:23:50 GMT
Impressive showing from the Pirate Party there.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 1, 2016 11:07:25 GMT
But seriously, does anyone know why it is being held today? I thought the idea of having elections on weekdays was that most people would be available to vote then, unlike at weekends when many people are away. A Friday seems the worst choice of day of all - when people are at work but then many are going away. And I would have thought that holding a count overnight on Friday would most definitely not be popular! Generally, when by-elections are held on days other than Thursday, it is usually because there is a pre-existing event and the usual polling stations or counting hall are not available on the Thursday. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 1, 2016 11:17:53 GMT
Con win in Chester for Simon Eardley Erm, what? |
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Post by froome on Jul 1, 2016 11:18:19 GMT
But seriously, does anyone know why it is being held today? I thought the idea of having elections on weekdays was that most people would be available to vote then, unlike at weekends when many people are away. A Friday seems the worst choice of day of all - when people are at work but then many are going away. And I would have thought that holding a count overnight on Friday would most definitely not be popular! Generally, when by-elections are held on days other than Thursday, it is usually because there is a pre-existing event and the usual polling stations or counting hall are not available on the Thursday. I realise that, but presumably it could have been any day this week. As I say, Friday seems to be the worst possible choice. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 1, 2016 11:26:57 GMT
The referendum may have played a part, from an admin perspective they probably wanted the maximum gap between the two elections, rather than running two within a few days of each other.
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Post by neilm on Jul 1, 2016 12:08:29 GMT
Con win in Chester for Simon Eardley Erm, what? I was cross posting from elsewhere, I thought I'd read in one thread about the relevant parish council but I was on a train with limited signal so couldn't check. |
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Post by lennon on Jul 1, 2016 12:17:26 GMT
Impressive showing from the Pirate Party there. If we could get 16% of the Lib Dem vote everywhere in the country then I'd take that... ;-) Genuine question though - as a (very) minor party are you better off putting up paper candidates where you can, or just not bothering? There's an element of getting the name out to voters by being on the ballot paper (even if they don't vote for you) given the relatively minimal effort to stand but equally it's a bit disheartening... |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 1, 2016 12:24:24 GMT
I was cross posting from elsewhere, I thought I'd read in one thread about the relevant parish council but I was on a train with limited signal so couldn't check. Ah right - any more details? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 1, 2016 12:30:03 GMT
Leatherhead a LD Gain LD 862 Con 340 UKIP 157 Lab 135 Green 28 Close though ...  |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 1, 2016 12:35:14 GMT
Impressive showing from the Pirate Party there. A bit too far inland for them really. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Jul 1, 2016 12:39:01 GMT
I was cross posting from elsewhere, I thought I'd read in one thread about the relevant parish council but I was on a train with limited signal so couldn't check. It was a parish by-election in the Upton Heath Ward of Upton-By-Chester. Was Con v LD. |
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Post by Penddu on Jul 1, 2016 15:37:21 GMT
Is this Rachel Banner of 'True Wales' fame (farce)? You mean the Pontypool teacher who took on the entire Welsh political class and media with a budget of £4,000 in the Welsh greater powers referendum in 2011 gaining just under 300,000 votes for NO? You'll remember that referendum,? The one where the First Crybaby and his cohorts promised that a YES vote would not result in income tax powers being devolved to Wales ( in fact unbelievably that very statement was of course included in the question on the ballot paper) . In fact I quite clearly remember the First Crybaby declaring that he would be leading the opposition campaign if it was ever proposed that Assembly be given tax raising powers during a televised debate in Blackwood. So it seems that lying through your teeth isn't just confined to Remain / Leave referendums. And Yes. To be clear, while True Wales came across as a ragtag bunch of bitter reactionaries plus a plastic pig, the only one of them to come out with any credit was Rachel Banner, and i tjought it would only be a matter of time before she joined mainstream politics. Glad she is trying. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 1, 2016 16:13:59 GMT
Confirmed figures for Rhoose: Riley 598 C 520 Lab 401 Banner 399 PC 104 LD 24 Pirate 4 (four)
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 1, 2016 16:34:09 GMT
To be clear, while True Wales came across as a ragtag bunch of bitter reactionaries plus a plastic pig, the only one of them to come out with any credit was Rachel Banner, and i tjought it would only be a matter of time before she joined mainstream politics. Glad she is trying. She did start drafting/writing UKIP'svmanifesto for the Assembly election - don't know what happened/went wrong there |
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