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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 3, 2013 0:31:54 GMT
And a 2012 Mayoral election special | | | | seats | | Con | 971931 | 44.0% | 129 | | Lab | 889918 | 40.3% | 121 | | Grn | 98913 | 4.5% | | | LD | 91774 | 4.2% | | | Ind | 83914 | 3.8% | | | UKIP | 43274 | 2.0% | | | BNP | 28751 | 1.3% | |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 3, 2013 10:03:04 GMT
Another loose end to be tied 1990 | | | | seats | | Lab | 926011 | 38.6% | 126 | | Con | 907789 | 37.9% | 104 | | LD | 340487 | 14.2% | 19 | | Grn | 138886 | 5.8% | | | Res | 35440 | 1.5% | 1 | | Ind | 17161 | 0.7% | | | Oth | 30735 | 1.3% | |
So in fact Labour did win the 1990 local elections in London, with an overall majority of 2 seats. Take that, Kenneth Baker! |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 8, 2013 10:39:55 GMT
2011 | | | | Change | seats | change | | Con | 387507 | 46.3% | -2.7 | 69 | -2 | | LD | 209212 | 25.0% | -7.2 | 19 | -4 | | Lab | 136627 | 16.3% | +6.9 | 8 | +2 | | Ind | 48717 | 5.8% | +1.5 | 4 | +4 | | UKIP | 31939 | 3.8% | +1.6 | | | | Grn | 13584 | 1.6% | +0.1 | | | | Oth | 9143 | 1.1% | -0.3 | | |
 Conservative gain from LD Blandford Bournemouth Kinson Fawley King's Worthy Poole Broadstone LD gain from Con Portsmouth Milton Lab gain from Con Leigh Park Portland Independent gain from Con Cowes East Wight Poole Hamworthy Ryde |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 8, 2013 10:42:17 GMT
Fairly small region, this?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 8, 2013 10:42:20 GMT
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Post by erlend on Jul 8, 2013 10:45:27 GMT
Small but actually quite logical. Dorset links far better with Hampshire than with Bristol. I see a case for putting Wiltshire with it but the problem is that Wiltshire is geographicall schizoid.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 8, 2013 11:23:23 GMT
Yes. Salisbury and the surrounding area would fit nicely with it but the cluster of towns in West Wiltshire look far more to Bristol. Swindon if anything has closer links with Oxford and Reading. In fact Fawcett's regions reflected this. This is entirely the same as his Wessex region except that did include Salisbury and Wilton. Chippenham and Westbury were in his Bristol region while Cricklade (Swindon) and Devizes were in his rather unsatisfactory Central region, which extended as far to the NE as Peterborough
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 8, 2013 20:16:45 GMT
Great stuff Pete. What name did you settle on for the region in the end?
Interesting Portsmouth configuration. A bit of a pack and crack against Labour there (that Portsmouth Horsea is a bit of a horror!)?
Will be interesting to see the ones going back in the region (especially 1995...).
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 8, 2013 21:06:11 GMT
Great stuff Pete. What name did you settle on for the region in the end? Interesting Portsmouth configuration. A bit of a pack and crack against Labour there (that Portsmouth Horsea is a bit of a horror!)? Will be interesting to see the ones going back in the region (especially 1995...). You suggested it! |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 8, 2013 22:44:48 GMT
Great stuff Pete. What name did you settle on for the region in the end? Interesting Portsmouth configuration. A bit of a pack and crack against Labour there (that Portsmouth Horsea is a bit of a horror!)? Will be interesting to see the ones going back in the region (especially 1995...). You suggested it! Still a bit of a horror though (it looks even worse when it's mapped)! But non of the options connecting the mainland with the island the that satisfactory. This configuration makes it very difficult for Labour to win more than one seat in Portsmouth though. Now. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 8, 2013 23:18:50 GMT
I may go back to my original plan then which was to have Paulsgrove and Cosham together and then have Drayton/Copnor as the seat which crosses between mainland and island. I did have it on good authority that this would not be the best option, but if I'm to take criticism either way, I may as well get it for my own efforts  Ok. Probably pairing Drayton & Farlington and Copnor is the worst option of the two possibles for crossing Port Creek for the reasons I made at our boundary submission, specifically in this case that on the mainland you have to get over a major dual carriageway as well as the sea and the railway to get to any housing and in Copnor, there is little housing near the top of the ward at all, with the vast majority being to the south and west, and therefore the furthest parts of the ward from the connecting bridge to Drayton & Farlington. The option therefore I would recommend would be Paulsgrove and Nelson. They 'fit' very well demographically, they are directly linked by the M275 motorway with the exits going straight from one populated area to another. Though they look further apart than Copnor and D&F, Tipner and Port Solent are actually pretty close together so there is a line of sight between the two closest inhabited points unlike that other option. This also helps with the fact that the boundary between Copnor and Hilsea is for a greater length completely arbitrary and cuts right through the middle of North End so not splitting them would help. |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 9, 2013 1:45:55 GMT
I may go back to my original plan then which was to have Paulsgrove and Cosham together and then have Drayton/Copnor as the seat which crosses between mainland and island. I did have it on good authority that this would not be the best option, but if I'm to take criticism either way, I may as well get it for my own efforts Ok. Probably pairing Drayton & Farlington and Copnor is the worst option of the two possibles for crossing Port Creek for the reasons I made at our boundary submission, specifically in this case that on the mainland you have to get over a major dual carriageway as well as the sea and the railway to get to any housing and in Copnor, there is little housing near the top of the ward at all, with the vast majority being to the south and west, and therefore the furthest parts of the ward from the connecting bridge to Drayton & Farlington. The option therefore I would recommend would be Paulsgrove and Nelson. They 'fit' very well demographically, they are directly linked by the M275 motorway with the exits going straight from one populated area to another. Though they look further apart than Copnor and D&F, Tipner and Port Solent are actually pretty close together so there is a line of sight between the two closest inhabited points unlike that other option. This also helps with the fact that the boundary between Copnor and Hilsea is for a greater length completely arbitrary and cuts right through the middle of North End so not splitting them would help. Well you see, I was still in boundary commission mode then! Everything I said then was true though, I think it was just the shock of seeing how Paulsgrove/Nelson looks on the map. Of course the best mainland/island connection is Cosham and Hilsea but then you'd have to orphan off D&F and Paulsgrove with non Portsmouth areas which isn't exactly terribly practical. So, you've done the best you can without getting silly and you've created the worst configuration for Labour (one safe Labour seat, the rest of their stronger areas diluted by pretty rubbish other bits) which I know will greatly pain you.  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 9, 2013 8:07:38 GMT
Fairly small region, this? It actually has a larger electorate than the North East |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 14, 2013 20:12:10 GMT
2007 | | | | Change | seats | change | | Con | 365464 | 49.0% | +3.9 | 71 | +13 | | LD | 239603 | 32.2% | -2.2 | 23 | -12 | | Lab | 70032 | 9.4% | -3.1 | 6 | - | | Ind | 32316 | 4.3% | -1.5 | | -1 | | UKIP | 16087 | 2.2% | +1.3 | | | | Grn | 10972 | 1.5% | +0.9 | | | | Oth | 10665 | 1.4% | +0.7 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 15, 2013 13:02:03 GMT
2003 | | | | Change | seats | change | | Con | 307047 | 45.1% | +5.1 | 58 | +7 | | LD | 234103 | 34.4% | +1.7 | 35 | +3 | | Lab | 84793 | 12.5% | -6.7 | 6 | -9 | | Ind | 39673 | 5.8% | -1.8 | 1 | -1 | | UKIP | 6301 | 0.9% | +0.9 | | | | Grn | 4014 | 0.6% | +0.3 | | | | Oth | 4909 | 0.7% | +0.6 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 15, 2013 13:04:11 GMT
1999 | | | | Change | seats | change | | Con | 251904 | 40.0% | +9.7 | 51 | +30 | | LD | 205666 | 32.7% | -5.1 | 32 | -24 | | Lab | 121007 | 19.2% | -4.3 | 15 | -5 | | Ind | 47858 | 7.6% | -0.2 | 2 | -1 | | UKIP | 234 | 0.0% | -0.2 | | | | Grn | 1788 | 0.3% | +0.0 | | | | Oth | 713 | 0.1% | +0.0 | | |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 16, 2013 21:01:29 GMT
| | | | Change | seats | change | | LD | 273579 | 37.8% | +5.2 | 56 | +23 | | Con | 219221 | 30.3% | -8.7 | 21 | -30 | | Lab | 169771 | 23.5% | +6.3 | 20 | +8 | | Ind | 56278 | 7.8% | -1.4 | 3 | -1 | | Grn | 2201 | 0.3% | -0.9 | | | | UKIP | 1423 | 0.2% | +0.2 | | | | Oth | 635 | 0.1% | -0.7 | | |
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 17, 2013 0:35:09 GMT
| | | | Change | seats | change | | LD | 273579 | 37.8% | +5.2 | 56 | +23 | | Con | 219221 | 30.3% | -8.7 | 21 | -30 | | Lab | 169771 | 23.5% | +6.3 | 20 | +8 | | Ind | 56278 | 7.8% | -1.4 | 3 | -1 | | Grn | 2201 | 0.3% | -0.9 | | | | UKIP | 1423 | 0.2% | +0.2 | | | | Oth | 635 | 0.1% | -0.7 | | |
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Post by lancastrian on Jul 17, 2013 21:53:05 GMT
What's all that red to the west of Weymouth?
More importantly how and by how much did Labour take it?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 17, 2013 22:11:39 GMT
It's Bridport. The town of Bridport lies at the extreme western end of the division and did have a strong Labour vote until fairly recently. Labour did carry the town handily enough in 1995 but it most likely wouldn;t have been enough on it's own. They were helped by the fact that half the wards were uncontested - 3 of these 4 wards returned Conservatives unopposed. Furthermore in one of the four wards which were contested there was no Conservative candidate and an Independent was elected in a straight fight with Labour. Its likely thta had all wards been contested by both Labour and Conservatives that Labour would not have won
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