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Post by neilm on Jun 25, 2016 10:53:06 GMT
Possibly a good move for Balls, despite his protestations that he doesn't want to be back.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 25, 2016 10:58:54 GMT
We can't leave Balls unchallenged. Now we have seen the back of the wimp Cameron I hope the Conservatives and UKIP put up a candidate agreed between them and go on to defeat him again in Yorkshire, so he can spend more time with his failing football club.
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Post by A Brown on Jun 25, 2016 11:30:53 GMT
I think Labour would get about 50% anyway even if Tories and UKIP both stood.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:05:27 GMT
If uncontested (at least by the other main parties) could Labour use the opportunity to return one of its lost 'stars' from the last election, say Douglas Alexander, Ed Balls or maybe even David Miliband? There is a no confidence motion in their current leader after all. Short term criticism for long term gain? No, no, no. These people being the public face of the party for so many years is partly what ruined us. It should be/will be a local candidate. |
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Post by forumreader on Jun 25, 2016 19:17:39 GMT
That would be interesting. I have no objection to the decision to not field a candidate, while having no objection to fielding a candidate. I think a convention of not contesting the seats of assassinated and murdered MPs has merit, and had merit when Gow and Neave were assassinated (Cox is less clear as to whether murdered or assassinated is the more accurate term, indeed unlawfully killed may yet be the legal verdict) If however Labour put up a candidate such as Balls, the decision not to oppose him would have to be reconsidered . The problem with that is effectively it means that Labour get a free run only providing they choose a candidate acceptable to the Conservatives, which is clearly wholly unacceptable as a proposition. I think that it would be improper if Labour used its free run to install a former MP candidate, such as Ed Balls, who was defeated at a general election. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 26, 2016 10:49:46 GMT
I doubt this particular CLP would accept a blatant parachute anyway.
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 26, 2016 14:48:31 GMT
I think Labour would get about 50% anyway even if Tories and UKIP both stood. That is as maybe, but no party should be given a walkover. The public deserve and need a proper contest. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 26, 2016 15:01:42 GMT
An argument for that exists, absolutely. But your party has already made its decision and couched it in terms of Respect. Can't row back now without looking terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 6:49:24 GMT
I doubt this particular CLP would accept a blatant parachute anyway. Back to an unanswered question before. How will the Labour party choose the next MP and can it be seen as democratic that the people of Batley will be handed the MP rather than asked who they would want from the Labour party? Though unlikely you then it leave it open to a protest vote of not wanting a person who just happened to woo the Labour selection committee and not the electorate of Batley and Spen. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 1, 2016 11:33:02 GMT
I suspect that this will be less on an issue in Batley & Spen than it is to internet randos, sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 12:52:07 GMT
I doubt this particular CLP would accept a blatant parachute anyway. Back to an unanswered question before. How will the Labour party choose the next MP and can it be seen as democratic that the people of Batley will be handed the MP rather than asked who they would want from the Labour party? Though unlikely you then it leave it open to a protest vote of not wanting a person who just happened to woo the Labour selection committee and not the electorate of Batley and Spen. Uncontested elections in this country are both common and democratic. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 1, 2016 13:39:37 GMT
I'd mimagine Batley and Spen will choose someone local, and they could well go for a left winger - Mike Wood MP , Jo Cox's predecessor, was an old-style Campaign Grouper.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 1, 2016 14:02:16 GMT
Maybe there'll be two Labour candidates - one backed by the members and another backed by the PLP faction. Seems fair if the people of B&S are to be denied a proper choice of parties other than Labour that they at least get to choose which Labour party they want to support
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 1, 2016 14:14:18 GMT
Heh, that might actually happen if the "D Miliband to be parachuted in" rumour was true (clue - its not)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 16:33:07 GMT
Is there any more news on whether any other minority candidates are intending to stand?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 18:47:10 GMT
I suspect that this, like Haltemprice, may have more candidates than first thought
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Post by iain on Jul 3, 2016 19:53:24 GMT
Labour now in such disarray that if the LDs/UKIP and Conservatives had not promised a free run before the referendum, this could have changed hands. Of course once one of the three (who was first?) backed out the others almost had to. Tories I think |
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 4, 2016 14:01:54 GMT
Yet the by elections last week didn't indicate Labour collapse. I think both of the big parties are looked at as being in a mess
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Post by froome on Jul 4, 2016 14:32:20 GMT
Labour now in such disarray that if the LDs/UKIP and Conservatives had not promised a free run before the referendum, this could have changed hands. Of course once one of the three (who was first?) backed out the others almost had to. Tories I think Yes it was the Conservatives. Has this by-election actually been called yet? If not, presumably it won't be taking place until after the summer lull, in September. |
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Post by greenhert on Jul 4, 2016 15:44:16 GMT
It has not been called yet but will likely be called in September or October this year. The writ will probably be moved soon.
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