Jack
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Post by Jack on Sept 26, 2016 20:56:54 GMT
Well, she was a democrat so I'd imagine she would want democracy to continue.
Also, 6.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 26, 2016 21:12:52 GMT
The race for second place is of great interest, because none of us have a clue. Any ideas? Maybe make a poll on this. I reckon the English Democrats will be second, purely because it's the most substantial established of the parties standing. Also, there might be a few hundred people who will think that the EDs are a sort of Lib Dems, without realising the far-right element. A random thought I had was what would happen if it became normal practice for parliamentary by-elections to be contested by the main parties only in marginal or winnable constituencies, and if safe seats were left "unopposed" by the main parties. Would each by-election have a few insignificant independents, or would any substantial regular alternative parties emerge? Apart from Batley & Spen (2016) and Haltemprice & Howden (2008), the nearest equivalents would be some of the Northern Ireland by-elections in 1986. |
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Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Sept 26, 2016 21:18:17 GMT
A random thought I had was what would happen if it became normal practice for parliamentary by-elections to be contested by the main parties only in marginal or winnable constituencies, and if safe seats were left "unopposed" by the main parties. Would each by-election have a few insignificant independents, or would any substantial regular alternative parties emerge? Apart from Batley & Spen (2016) and Haltemprice & Howden (2008), the nearest equivalents would be some of the Northern Ireland by-elections in 1986. The nearest equivalents in the UK, yes. There's plenty of evidence for what happens at this type of by-election from Australia and parts of Canada (though the latter is only an occasional convention to allow a leader without a seat into the legislature, rather than a general agreement not to contest another party's safe seat). |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 26, 2016 21:51:09 GMT
Well there were a number of wartime by-elections which were only fought by whichever of the main parties held the seat. The Commonwealth party emerged as a serious contender in a number of Conservative held seats
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 27, 2016 9:30:04 GMT
There is an Independent standing -Gary Kitchen
He is or was a Green.
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 27, 2016 16:28:29 GMT
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Sept 27, 2016 16:33:59 GMT
Did I say 6?
I meant 10.
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 27, 2016 16:38:56 GMT
ANTI, Corbyn, By Election Protest
BRABIN, Tracy Lynn, Labour Party
BUCKBY, Jack, No to terrorism, Yes to Britain
EDMONDS, Richard Charles, National Front
FURNESS, David, British National Party Local People First
HIRST, Therese, English Democrats - "Putting England First!"
KHAN, Waqas Ali, Independent
KITCHIN, Garry Mervyn, Independent
LOVE, Ankit, One Love Party
MAYHEW, Henry Edmund Burke, Independent
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 27, 2016 16:39:36 GMT
There is an Independent standing -Gary Kitchen He is or was a Green. He's the only one who lives int he constituency so might get a half decent vote - half of the others live in London |
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 27, 2016 16:42:10 GMT
ANTI, Corbyn, By Election Protest BRABIN, Tracy Lynn, Labour Party BUCKBY, Jack, No to terrorism, Yes to Britain EDMONDS, Richard Charles, National Front FURNESS, David, British National Party Local People First HIRST, Therese, English Democrats - "Putting England First!" KHAN, Waqas Ali, Independent KITCHIN, Garry Mervyn, Independent LOVE, Ankit, One Love Party MAYHEW, Henry Edmund Burke, Independent Very silly to change your name to Corbyn Anti... Three far right parties there. And I thought Jack Buckby was standing under the Liberty GB label. |
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Post by YL on Sept 27, 2016 16:46:16 GMT
ANTI, Corbyn, By Election Protest BRABIN, Tracy Lynn, Labour Party BUCKBY, Jack, No to terrorism, Yes to Britain EDMONDS, Richard Charles, National Front FURNESS, David, British National Party Local People First HIRST, Therese, English Democrats - "Putting England First!" KHAN, Waqas Ali, Independent KITCHIN, Garry Mervyn, Independent LOVE, Ankit, One Love Party MAYHEW, Henry Edmund Burke, Independent Very silly to change your name to Corbyn Anti... Three far right parties there. And I thought Jack Buckby was standing under the Liberty GB label. It's a registered description of Liberty GB. And "By Election Protest" is a registered description of something called "English Independence". |
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Post by johnloony on Sept 27, 2016 16:47:40 GMT
The (BNP) "Local People First" candidate lives in, er, Ealing.
No Liberty UK candidate (?).
Who would I vote for (if I lived in Batley)? I had been thinking that I would probably not vote, out of respect for my party's decision not to stand, but perhaps I would vote for one of the independent candidates in an attempt to marginalise, and minimise the vote for, the various far-right candidates. I would have to be careful in checking out what their policies are, just in case they are themselves far-right nutters. AIUI, Waqas Ali Khan is or was a member of UKIP, so I would consider him as an option for keeping up the pressure to ensure Brexit.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 27, 2016 16:51:41 GMT
Three far right parties there. And I thought Jack Buckby was standing under the Liberty GB label. It's a registered description of Liberty GB. And "By Election Protest" is a registered description of something called "English Independence". That explains my confusion the. At least they didn't use the "Really Listening to Batley & Spen" description. P.S. "Liberty GB" is far more extreme (racist, Christian fundamentalist, anti-Islam) than I had realised, but anyway: www.libertygb.org.uk |
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Post by lancastrian on Sept 27, 2016 16:58:21 GMT
Who is Corbyn Anti?
A Henry E.B Mayhew stood for UKIP in West Ham in 2005.
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 27, 2016 17:00:39 GMT
65 out of 81 of us (80.25%) thought the main parties should have fielded candidates in this by-election.
I've added a new poll.
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Foggy
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Post by Foggy on Sept 27, 2016 17:10:57 GMT
I have not voted in the poll because I think in this instance I would cast a blank ballot, which is not something I've ever actually done (or can imagine doing in normal circumstances).
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Post by johnloony on Sept 27, 2016 17:11:19 GMT
65 out of 81 of us (80.25%) thought the main parties should have fielded candidates in this by-election. I've added a new poll. I think we need a "would not vote" option |
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 27, 2016 17:12:19 GMT
I think I would vote for Mr. Mayhew from the choice available (from what lancastrian says a few posts above and what I've seen and heard of the other candidates).
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Post by Robert Waller on Sept 27, 2016 17:17:29 GMT
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Sept 27, 2016 17:19:06 GMT
65 out of 81 of us (80.25%) thought the main parties should have fielded candidates in this by-election. I've added a new poll. I think we need a "would not vote" option Indeed. Without the main parties standing, it's a bit of a farce anyway. |
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