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Post by andrea on Mar 1, 2019 19:58:31 GMT
This WeekEnd will be the PD-primary: At least i do not have real InSights in innerparty InFightings of PD, so andrea, am i allowed to please You for giving some information? Zingaretti is the favorite. However how many will show up to vote. They aim at 1 million, but the whole campaign has been quite low profile. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 1, 2019 21:52:44 GMT
This WeekEnd will be the PD-primary: At least i do not have real InSights in innerparty InFightings of PD, so andrea, am i allowed to please You for giving some information? Zingaretti is the favorite. However how many will show up to vote. They aim at 1 million, but the whole campaign has been quite low profile. Like to hear that: When i was in Rome 2013 i was treated surprisingly friendly by some Romans - because they thought, that i would be he! |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 1, 2019 21:55:58 GMT
So, Giachetti is closest to Renzi, i.e. chanceless.
And MartinA (or rather "MartinO"?) is a puppet of Bersani and TheOldGuard?
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Post by andrea on Mar 2, 2019 16:06:29 GMT
So, Giachetti is closest to Renzi, i.e. chanceless. And MartinA (or rather "MartinO"?) is a puppet of Bersani and TheOldGuard? Among party members the vote split 49% Zingaretti 35% Martina 11% Giachetti. Martina won Abruzzo, Alto Adige, Basilicata, Campania (he has De Luca behind him in the region) and Veneto. All other regions won by Zingaretti. It is MartinA. It is the surname, so no male/female. His first name is Maurizio. He is a nice guy but he hasn't really made an impact as interim leader. He has been endorsed by Orfini and some former Renzi's boys (Del Rio. Rosato, Guerini, Lotti, Nannicini, Faraone). |
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 2, 2019 16:21:39 GMT
So, Giachetti is closest to Renzi, i.e. chanceless. And MartinA (or rather "MartinO"?) is a puppet of Bersani and TheOldGuard? Among party members the vote split 49% Zingaretti 35% Martina 11% Giachetti. Martina won Abruzzo, Alto Adige, Basilicata, Campania (he has De Luca behind him in the region) and Veneto. All other regions won by Zingaretti. It is MartinA. It is the surname, so no male/female. His first name is Maurizio. He is a nice guy but he hasn't really made an impact as interim leader. He has been endorsed by Orfini and some former Renzi's boys (Del Rio. Rosato, Guerini, Lotti, Nannicini, Faraone). What are the gender implications for personal names? I have two male friends in Italy named Nicola. |
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Post by andrea on Mar 2, 2019 19:15:38 GMT
Among party members the vote split 49% Zingaretti 35% Martina 11% Giachetti. Martina won Abruzzo, Alto Adige, Basilicata, Campania (he has De Luca behind him in the region) and Veneto. All other regions won by Zingaretti. It is MartinA. It is the surname, so no male/female. His first name is Maurizio. He is a nice guy but he hasn't really made an impact as interim leader. He has been endorsed by Orfini and some former Renzi's boys (Del Rio. Rosato, Guerini, Lotti, Nannicini, Faraone). What are the gender implications for personal names? I have two male friends in Italy named Nicola. Nicola is a male name in Italian. Or at least I have never heard of a female Nicola in Italy. National Institute of Statistics says there were less than 5 women named Nicola born in 2016. Record number of female Nicola was 29 in 2000 Andrea can be for both male or female but it is usually used for male: 5,577 men and 230 girls named Andrea born in 2016. |
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 2, 2019 20:24:21 GMT
What are the gender implications for personal names? I have two male friends in Italy named Nicola. Nicola is a male name in Italian. Or at least I have never heard of a female Nicola in Italy. National Institute of Statistics says there were less than 5 women named Nicola born in 2016. Record number of female Nicola was 29 in 2000 Andrea can be for both male or female but it is usually used for male: 5,577 men and 230 girls named Andrea born in 2016. Thank you. It is a female name in Britain and I had assumed it would also be in Italy. Carelessly I had assumed the male form was Niccolo but of course it has the extra 'c' and must be a different root and origin? |
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Post by middyman on Mar 2, 2019 20:49:46 GMT
Nicola is a male name in Italian. Or at least I have never heard of a female Nicola in Italy. National Institute of Statistics says there were less than 5 women named Nicola born in 2016. Record number of female Nicola was 29 in 2000 Andrea can be for both male or female but it is usually used for male: 5,577 men and 230 girls named Andrea born in 2016. Thank you. It is a female name in Britain and I had assumed it would also be in Italy. Carelessly I had assumed the male form was Niccolo but of course it has the extra 'c' and must be a different root and origin? There are then confusing ”cross-overs”, e.g. Nicola Benedetti born in Scotland to Italian parents. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 2, 2019 22:53:09 GMT
Or Ashton-under-Lyne's Simone Perrotta. Doesn't look like any Simone I've ever met.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 22, 2019 0:54:57 GMT
Basilicata - governed by CS (incl. left DC-relicts) since 1995 - will go to the polls on SunDay.
Wikipedia provides only 1 poll: CD 29%, CS 26%, M5S 17%, LeU 4%; undecided 25%.
In Abruzzo and Sardegna CD (i.e. Salvini) overperformed hugely compared to the OpinionPolls, ending near 50%; CS's president stepped down, the acting one doesn't run; the left is split; in the last GeneralElection CD was already neck-to-neck with M5S; the terroristic try few days ago (on a bus with pupils) - will this be sufficient for a CD-victory in Basilicata?
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 25, 2019 0:13:41 GMT
In Basilicata the first of 681 precincts has reported its result: 53% CD, 23% CS, 19% M5S, 6% LeU.
Recently, in Abruzzo&Sardegna, there was little movement in the numbers, but 1 precinct could be an OneOff, of course.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 25, 2019 0:53:40 GMT
11/681:
42 CD
40 CS
14 M5S
04 LeU
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 25, 2019 4:34:46 GMT
308/681:
42% CD
35% CS
20% M5S
04% LeU
Quite stable for some time, so seems to be decided.
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Post by andrea on Mar 25, 2019 11:37:41 GMT
Final
CR 42.2%
CL 33.1%
M5S 20.3%
Left 4.4%
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 25, 2019 11:46:21 GMT
Final CR 42.2% CL 33.1% M5S 20.3% Left 4.4% CD or CR? CL or CS?
I'm now a bit confused....
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Post by andrea on Mar 25, 2019 12:30:54 GMT
Final CR 42.2% CL 33.1% M5S 20.3% Left 4.4% CD or CR? CL or CS? I'm now a bit confused....
CD is Centro Destra in Italian. CR is Centre Right in English CS is Centro Sinistra. CL is Centre Left  |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 25, 2019 12:34:55 GMT
CD or CR? CL or CS? I'm now a bit confused....
CD is Centro Destra in Italian. CR is Centre Right in English CS is Centro Sinistra. CL is Centre Left Ah, of course.
So how does that result rate for each party?
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 25, 2019 13:16:28 GMT
So how does that result rate for each party? Good for the Right (stunningly good, we must admit), bad for everyone else. Bad for the Centre-Left because though the result was better than the results in region last year, they have nevertheless lost power in what had been a secure bastion throughout the 'Second Republic'. Bad for MS5 because they came a comparatively distant third despite landsliding in the region last year. |
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Post by andrea on Mar 25, 2019 13:17:59 GMT
CD is Centro Destra in Italian. CR is Centre Right in English CS is Centro Sinistra. CL is Centre Left Ah, of course. So how does that result rate for each party?
Good for centre-right. Again meaning good for Lega which polled 19.1% to Forza Italia's 9.1% Centre-left result is mediocre. They stopped the bleeding, but it is not they are raising (compared to Lega) either. 5 Stars is way down compared to 2018 general elections (44%). But they tend to perform worse in local contexts, so their decrease wouldn't probably be not so heavy in a GE |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 25, 2019 13:19:17 GMT
So how does that result rate for each party? Good for the Right (stunningly good, we must admit), bad for everyone else. Bad for the Centre-Left because though the result was better than the results in region last year, they have nevertheless lost power in what had been a secure bastion throughout the 'Second Republic'. Bad for MS5 because they came a comparatively distant third despite landsliding in the region last year. So.....the Five Star collapsed and most of their vote went to the Right, overtaking the Left even though their vote increased...? Is the League involved in this right block here? |
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