Sibboleth
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Sept 27, 2016 12:02:35 GMT
Post by Sibboleth on Sept 27, 2016 12:02:35 GMT
Correct!
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 27, 2016 16:12:47 GMT
Probably because those constituencies had just been abolished. Andy might have done better to cite the 1979 GE, tbh. The point is that back then, disparities in constituency electorates were much bigger than in recent years - but this seemed to pass almost without comment. Andy did say up to the 1983 election. One thing that sticks out in my mind was when watching the 1970 election coverage and seeing the Billericay result come through - where Eric Moonman polled 43,765 votes and still didn't win - was that the commentators made reference to it being a very large seat, but in a very nonchalant way. There was no talk about how absurdly large it was; perhaps it was protocol to keep such opinions strictly to themselves.
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Post by hullenedge on Sept 27, 2016 20:46:50 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Sept 29, 2016 19:39:42 GMT
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Sept 30, 2016 20:25:15 GMT
Post by hullenedge on Sept 30, 2016 20:25:15 GMT
A few local Libs and David Penhaligon, dated 1979:- www.dropbox.com/s/uvj6kgdfat1fug5/Sowerby%20Libs%20Feb%2079.jpg?dl=0There was quite a to-do when David Steel visited during the 79 campaign. Some lads were late for the afternoon register (having lingered too long but managing to get their Vote Liberal stickers). They were caned by the headmaster!
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Sept 30, 2016 20:37:49 GMT
Post by AdminSTB on Sept 30, 2016 20:37:49 GMT
A few local Libs and David Penhaligon, dated 1979:- www.dropbox.com/s/uvj6kgdfat1fug5/Sowerby%20Libs%20Feb%2079.jpg?dl=0There was quite a to-do when David Steel visited during the 79 campaign. Some lads were late for the afternoon register (having lingered too long but managing to get their Vote Liberal stickers). They were caned by the headmaster! The headmaster wasn't a Liberal, then...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 4, 2016 6:54:25 GMT
A few local Libs and David Penhaligon, dated 1979:- www.dropbox.com/s/uvj6kgdfat1fug5/Sowerby%20Libs%20Feb%2079.jpg?dl=0There was quite a to-do when David Steel visited during the 79 campaign. Some lads were late for the afternoon register (having lingered too long but managing to get their Vote Liberal stickers). They were caned by the headmaster! The headmaster wasn't a Liberal, then... I refer you to the educational activities of the deceased MP for Rochdale and Asbestos...
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Oct 4, 2016 15:03:58 GMT
Post by hullenedge on Oct 4, 2016 15:03:58 GMT
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Oct 4, 2016 21:24:20 GMT
Post by David Ashforth on Oct 4, 2016 21:24:20 GMT
Rotherham Council minute books from the 1950s are currently available to buy in the Rare and Race second hand book shop. I'm interested in psephology and local history but I think this is too esoteric, even for me.
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 9, 2016 11:00:16 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 9, 2016 11:18:37 GMT
In 1987 in the successor seat of Calder Valley, the Liberals put in a massive campaign to try to gain the seat (they had been second in 1983 but needed to overturn an 8,000 majority). Channel 4 News picked it as a seat to watch, and commissioned a constituency poll. The poll showed a surprise Labour lead (Lab 45, C 30, L/All 24). The Conservatives held the seat at the general election, with Labour second. The local Liberals then became very angry with journalists and refused to co-operate with any profile of the constituency for many years.
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 9, 2016 12:06:05 GMT
Not aware of Liberals refusing to co-operate after the C4 Poll fiasco. Donald Thompson was furious with C4. The final poll was 'way out'. C4 also forecast a Liberal gain in Cheltenham, which didn't happen. At least they got Dudley West right.
If I had the October 1974 clipping to hand I'd post...from memory the Libs were forecasting Con 14,500 Lab 14,000 Lib 9,000.
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Oct 9, 2016 16:44:34 GMT
Post by hullenedge on Oct 9, 2016 16:44:34 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Oct 13, 2016 21:43:57 GMT
Map of Sheffield from 1890 showing the area to the west of the town centre. I've posted it because of the boundaries (ward, constituency, bierlow) which go through houses and not even in straight lines. Starting in the west, the boundary goes through houses on Peel Terrace before going in a crescent-like shape through some houses on Wilkinson Street it then turns diagonally south and east before turning diagonally north and east so there is a triangle in Conway Street that is in a different constituency (Central) to the rest of the road (Ecclesall). And that's just one of the boundaries on this map. (FYI: J.G.Harston YL ) Zoomable map
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J.G.Harston
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Oct 13, 2016 22:01:26 GMT
Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 13, 2016 22:01:26 GMT
Map of Sheffield from 1890 showing the area to the west of the town centre. I've posted it because of the boundaries (ward, constituency, bierlow) which go through houses and not even in straight lines. Starting in the west, the boundary goes through houses on Peel Terrace before going in a crescent-like shape through some houses on Wilkinson Street it then turns diagonally south and east before turning diagonally north and east so there is a triangle in Conway Street that is in a different constituency (Central) to the rest of the road (Ecclesall). And that's just one of the boundaries on this map. (FYI: J.G.Harston YL ) Yes, I've got these maps with the different boundaries picked out and highlighted in different colours. Many of them are fossilised relics of the pre-1843 Bierlows.
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Oct 13, 2016 22:07:49 GMT
Post by David Ashforth on Oct 13, 2016 22:07:49 GMT
Map of Sheffield from 1890 showing the area to the west of the town centre. I've posted it because of the boundaries (ward, constituency, bierlow) which go through houses and not even in straight lines. Starting in the west, the boundary goes through houses on Peel Terrace before going in a crescent-like shape through some houses on Wilkinson Street it then turns diagonally south and east before turning diagonally north and east so there is a triangle in Conway Street that is in a different constituency (Central) to the rest of the road (Ecclesall). And that's just one of the boundaries on this map. (FYI: J.G.Harston YL ) Yes, I've got these maps with the different boundaries picked out and highlighted in different colours. Many of them are fossilised relics of the pre-1843 Bierlows. There are lots of maps online at Sheffield Archive Maps www.sheffieldarchivemaps.co.uk/
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J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 13, 2016 22:23:04 GMT
Yes, I've got these maps with the different boundaries picked out and highlighted in different colours. Many of them are fossilised relics of the pre-1843 Bierlows. There are lots of maps online at Sheffield Archive Maps www.sheffieldarchivemaps.co.uk/Noooooo!!!!! I've got work to do and need to go to bed! I've already lost the last hour browsing through them.
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YL
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Oct 14, 2016 6:40:45 GMT
Post by YL on Oct 14, 2016 6:40:45 GMT
Map of Sheffield from 1890 showing the area to the west of the town centre. I've posted it because of the boundaries (ward, constituency, bierlow) which go through houses and not even in straight lines. Starting in the west, the boundary goes through houses on Peel Terrace before going in a crescent-like shape through some houses on Wilkinson Street it then turns diagonally south and east before turning diagonally north and east so there is a triangle in Conway Street that is in a different constituency (Central) to the rest of the road (Ecclesall). And that's just one of the boundaries on this map. (FYI: J.G.Harston YL ) Yes, I've got these maps with the different boundaries picked out and highlighted in different colours. Many of them are fossilised relics of the pre-1843 Bierlows. Wasn't it only Ecclesall and Brightside which were Bierlows? (The other divisions of the Parish of Sheffield being Sheffield Township, Nether Hallam, Upper Hallam and Attercliffe-cum-Darnall.) There's at least one boundary stone round there marking one of the old division boundaries: on Gell Street just north of the Conway Street junction, where the boundary corsses on that map. (Photo on this page; if you look carefully you can see that the bit on the left says "Ecclesall Bierlow".) Anyway, I now know what division of Central ward I should recommend to the BCE...
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 15, 2016 12:09:53 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Oct 16, 2016 12:12:59 GMT
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