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Post by minionofmidas on Apr 16, 2016 9:27:38 GMT
Their zombie review was better than the English one imho. Shame about the further seat loss that's creating a complete mess in North Wales no matter how you slice it.
(Quite right about the 5th review btw. And presumably about the 4th as well, never read up on it but always found the size of that Meirionydd Nant Conwy seat quite bemusing.)
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Post by Penddu on Apr 18, 2016 9:38:41 GMT
Their zombie review was better than the English one imho. Shame about the further seat loss that's creating a complete mess in North Wales no matter how you slice it. (Quite right about the 5th review btw. And presumably about the 4th as well, never read up on it but always found the size of that Meirionydd Nant Conwy seat quite bemusing.) The loss of the extra seat wont make much difference in North Wales - or Mid and West Wales - Just some fine-tuning needed. However it will have a bigger impact in South Wales, although it does seem to make the numbers work a bit better in most cases |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 10:06:49 GMT
I'd forgotten that the BCW had proposed a seat called "Heads of the Valley"
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Post by cibwr on Apr 19, 2016 10:33:46 GMT
I'd forgotten that the BCW had proposed a seat called "Heads of the Valley" The original local government reorganisation plans had a Heads of The Valleys borough, combining Merthyr and Blaenau Gwent together with the northern tip of the Rhymney Valley District. |
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Post by Penddu on Apr 19, 2016 11:39:55 GMT
That would have been the local government equivalent of a toxic bank......
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 9:25:21 GMT
South East Wales Monmouthshire, Torfaen & Newport 3 SEATS Monmouthshire 74532 Yes Torfaen 77367 Yes Newport 75709 Yes Blaenau Gwent, Merthyr Tydfil & Caerphilly 3 SEATS Blaenau Gwent 76304 Yes Merthyr Tydfil 72180 Yes Caerphilly 76550 Yes Cardiff 3 SEATS Cardiff East 74128 Yes Cardiff North 78187 Yes Cardiff West 75563 Yes  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 9:41:08 GMT
South East Wales Definite (Monmouthshire, Torfaen & Newport 3 seats) (Blaenau Gwent, Merthyr Tydfil Caerphilly 3 seats) (Cardiff 3 seats) total 9 seats South East Wales32 tabs open and no Ad Blocker. You Aussies are something else! |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 22, 2016 11:14:07 GMT
If you are just 13, then by definition you can't be a "swing voter" as you are not yet eligible to vote  |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 22, 2016 11:20:06 GMT
Actually I am only half Australian (and I am only 13) Maternally Australian (Currently living on Northern Beaches (ULTRA CONSERVATIVE) straddling the border between Mackellar LIB 68.8 (Bronwyn Bishop former speaker retiring (ULTRA RIGHT and Partisan LABs ejected 393, Coalition 7 times!!!) and Warringah LIB 65.3 TONY ABBOT LAND!!! (FORMER PM, ULTRA ULTRA ULTRA RIGHT WING and "The Mad Monk")) Historically from North Coast Cowper NAT 63.2 (Luke Hartsuyker(pronounced Heart-Sucker(REALLY, actual pronounciation)former Minister for Vocational Education and Skills)) Paternally ENGLISH!!! Surrey - Woodham (Near Woking) Runnymede & Weybridge CON Maj 44.2% Held by Phillip Hammond Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs Which Meant that 2013-2015 my family lived in the AUSTRALIAN PM, Speaker and Minister for Vocational Education and Skills UK Foreign Secretary which is sad as I am a swing voter yet all my family lives in Ultra Safe Right wing Seats Welcome to the forum. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 11:20:41 GMT
YES TRUE,
But if I could vote I would be a swinging voter as I am centrist (with a slight tendency to the right as they typically spend more on transport and infrastructure)
PS I HATE EMOJIS, THEY ARE SUCH A WASTE OF TIME.
I am a strongly opinionated sort of person
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 11:21:17 GMT
Also, how do you colour yourself in?
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 11:22:47 GMT
Also it is about 9:30 at night here is Sydney
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 19:34:15 GMT
Also, how do you colour yourself in? Message AdminSTB  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 19:46:27 GMT
Also, how do you colour yourself in? Welcome to the forum. I'm curious as to what party colours you would like to adopt as a teenager living in Australia describing himself as a swing voter. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 22, 2016 21:35:05 GMT
Morning, it's 7:30 here
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jun 23, 2016 11:18:10 GMT
North Wales Ynys Mon a Arfon 72632 Gwynedd 72379 Conwy 73228 Denbighshire 74069 Flintshire 75528 Wrexham & Mold 77855 Welshpool & I DON'T KNOW 73913  |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 23, 2016 14:45:54 GMT
North Wales Ynys Mon a Arfon 72632 Gwynedd 72379 Conwy 73228 Denbighshire 74069 Flintshire 75528 Wrexham & Mold 77855 Welshpool & I DON'T KNOW 73913 North WalesInteresting boundaries to say the least. I suppose I should be thankful that my home ward of Llansanffraid has not been made to share a constituency with Abergele (like it likely will), which it kind of did up until 1983 when the old Denbighshire constituency was abolished, with Llansanffraid Glan Conwy being shifted into Conwy, and Abergele became part of Clwyd North West. Try "Welshpool & Maelor". |
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Post by islington on Jun 23, 2016 21:42:31 GMT
With the little matter of 501 seats in England safely dealt with, let us proceed to a western principality... I must acknowledge Pete Whitehead's plans for wales, which I used as a starting-off point. I should also enter a word of caution about the names, especially in Welsh-speaking areas. I'm sure many of them can be improved.  WS-A (Powys and everything north of it): 600388 = 8.03 = 8ANGLESEY AND CAERNARFON - 76706 BRECON AND RADNOR - 73820. This has to take in southern Montgomeryshire. CONWY - 76508 DENBIGH - 76775. The Denbighshire authority is the right size for a seat but it would make a mess of everything around it. Note that this is a 3-area seat - I think it's inevitable to have some of these in Wales because of the relatively small size of some of the areas. NORTH FLINTSHIRE AND RHYL - 75548 SOUTH FLINTSHIRE - 77032. I wanted to cross the Flintshire boundary only once, which clearly had to be in the north (hence the previous seat). That means I have one seat (this one) wholly in Flintshire. MEIRIONNYDD - 72498. WREXHAM - 71501. I kept this seat fairly small so that the Rhosllanerchrugog and Ruabon areas could go entirely into the Denbigh seat.   WS-B (West Wales: i.e. Ceredigion all the way to the Vale of Glamorgan (but not Cardiff)): 900933 = 12.05 = 12BARRY AND PENARTH - 72571 BRIDGEND - 72527. A 3-area seat. Very tricky boundaries in this area. CARMARTHEN - 77894 CEREDIGION - 71560. Another 3-area seat (but a logical one, I feel). LLANELLI - 78103. Another 3-area seat; it takes the middle Swansea Valley area because it has to go somewhere. The town of Llanelli is right at the western end of the seat. NEATH - 77926. Essentially, Carmarthen and Llanelli need to be on the large side so that this seat can reach far enough to include Port Talbot. PEMBROKE - 74070 PONTYPRIDD AND ABERDARE - 76170 PORTHCAWL AND OGMORE -71064. Having such large seats farther west means that seats in this area are short of electors and struggle to get above the minimum. It would be nice to even everything up, but not at the expense of putting a boundary through the middle of Port Talbot. RHONDDA AND LLANTRISANT - 76081 SWANSEA EAST - 75017 SWANSEA WEST - 77950 |
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Post by islington on Jun 23, 2016 21:57:17 GMT
Wales concluded.  WS-C (former Gwent): 452642 = 6.05 = 6My main reservation about this plan is the way that surrounding areas nibble at Newport (a ward here, a couple of wards there), but it seems unavoidable given the numbers and the configuration of LA boundaries. CAERPHILLY - 76323 EBBW VALE - 78184 MERTHYR TYDFIL AND RHYMNEY - 75250 MONMOUTH - 74532 NEWPORT - 75986 PONTYPOOL AND COWBRAN - 72367  WS-D (Cardiff): 227878 = 3.05 = 3Three whole seats can be assigned to Cardiff. CARDIFF EAST - 77059 CARDIFF NORTH - 75256 CARDIFF WEST - 75563 |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Jun 23, 2016 22:13:30 GMT
With the little matter of 501 seats in England safely dealt with, let us proceed to a western principality... I must acknowledge Pete Whitehead's plans for wales, which I used as a starting-off point. I should also enter a word of caution about the names, especially in Welsh-speaking areas. I'm sure many of them can be improved. WS-A (Powys and everything north of it): 600388 = 8.03 = 8ANGLESEY AND CAERNARFON - 76706 BRECON AND RADNOR - 73820. This has to take in southern Montgomeryshire. CONWY - 76508 DENBIGH - 76775. The Denbighshire authority is the right size for a seat but it would make a mess of everything around it. Note that this is a 3-area seat - I think it's inevitable to have some of these in Wales because of the relatively small size of some of the areas. NORTH FLINTSHIRE AND RHYL - 75548 SOUTH FLINTSHIRE - 77032. I wanted to cross the Flintshire boundary only once, which clearly had to be in the north (hence the previous seat). That means I have one seat (this one) wholly in Flintshire. MEIRIONNYDD - 72498. WREXHAM - 71501. I kept this seat fairly small so that the Rhosllanerchrugog and Ruabon areas could go entirely into the Denbigh seat. Ok, a few things: 1. Regarding part of arrangment of the CONWY and DENBIGH constituencies, whilst I think that Llanddulas could probably sit well in DENBIGH (as a suburb of Abergele), I think Llysfaen would be better served being part of CONWY, especially if you look at its border with Colwyn ward on the Earth view, Llysfaen is semi-contigious with Old Colwyn and the former is practically an extension of the latter (for example, the primary schools in Llysfaen tend to serve as feeders for the secondary school in Old Colwyn, this I know having attended said secondary and I knew that quite a significant proportion of the student body hailed from Llysfaen). If shifting Llysfaen to CONWY would cause it to get a bit too close to the upper limit, perhaps that imbalance could be redressed by having it do a swap with Llansannan? 2. Names, just some suggestions of what I think some of these new constituencies could be called. Instead of ANGLESEY & CAERNARFON, perhaps we could call it MENAI, and I think we could get away with using the names DELYN and ALYN & DEESIDE for the Flintshire constituencies. |
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