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Post by Foggy on Jul 13, 2016 0:49:11 GMT
Your 'Durham' should probably be 'City of Durham' for the purposes of clarity. I'm not sure about the rural Northumberland seats, but this will always be a tricky area under the new rules.
I don't like the names 'Benton and Cramlington' (because I've never heard of either place) or 'Boldon, Hebburn and Washington' because it mentions three different settlements. This is just personal taste, though, and not something the Commission would take into account. They might call them 'Sunderland North' and 'Newcastle-upon-Tyne North East' if they think they can get away with it.
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Post by jamie on Jul 13, 2016 9:05:56 GMT
Your 'Durham' should probably be 'City of Durham' for the purposes of clarity. I'm not sure about the rural Northumberland seats, but this will always be a tricky area under the new rules. I don't like the names 'Benton and Cramlington' (because I've never heard of either place) or 'Boldon, Hebburn and Washington' because it mentions three different settlements. This is just personal taste, though, and not something the Commission would take into account. They might call them 'Sunderland North' and 'Newcastle-upon-Tyne North East' if they think they can get away with it. Since I'd eliminated other constituencies containing the name 'Durham' I thought it would be ok to call it Durham but City of Durham is fine. Rural Northumberland is significantly under quota so it was never going to be perfect. For the new Hexham seat, I aimed to include full areas eg; all 4 wards of Ponteland. I needed more population north of the Tyne so parts of Durham council were required to be part of Hexham in order to make it work. That area is a mix of north-eastern Newcastle, middle class suburbs of Newcastle in North Tyneside and a working class village to the north. There is no one 'significant' settlement so I just went with Benton (other options are Forest Hall, Killingsworth, Longbenton) and Cramlington which is the northern half the constituency. Im wary of calling Boldon and Hebburn part of Sunderland, the former is a distinct area while the latter is really an extension of Gateshead. I think you could get away with Hebburn and Washington constituency. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 9:16:06 GMT
The two wards sticking out the top of the Washington constituency look peculiar, are they attached at all?
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Post by islington on Jul 13, 2016 9:51:17 GMT
Jamie, it took me ages to work out how to post the maps so it's a pleasure to help someone else with it.
I'm with you on calling the seat simply 'Durham', especially once you've got rid of names like 'N Durham' and 'NW Durham' (which I also agree with). I'd say that same about 'Chester', rather than 'City of Chester' - after all, we don't (and nor should we) have seats called 'City of Gloucester', 'City of Worcester' and so on. I'll make an exception for 'City of London' because of its unique history and status, and because 'City of London' denotes something highly specific compared with what we mean when we say 'London'.
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Post by jamie on Jul 13, 2016 10:51:36 GMT
The two wards sticking out the top of the Washington constituency look peculiar, are they attached at all? Yes they are Hebburn North and Hebburn South. |
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Post by jamie on Jul 13, 2016 10:56:38 GMT
Jamie, it took me ages to work out how to post the maps so it's a pleasure to help someone else with it. I'm with you on calling the seat simply 'Durham', especially once you've got rid of names like 'N Durham' and 'NW Durham' (which I also agree with). I'd say that same about 'Chester', rather than 'City of Chester' - after all, we don't (and nor should we) have seats called 'City of Gloucester', 'City of Worcester' and so on. I'll make an exception for 'City of London' because of its unique history and status, and because 'City of London' denotes something highly specific compared with what we mean when we say 'London'. Some of the Durham names are particularly weird eg; Durham NW has wards that are south/south west of Durham. I agree on the Durham name, I'm ok with it being called City of Durham but considering it includes many rural areas I'd prefer just Durham. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 21:49:22 GMT
The two wards sticking out the top of the Washington constituency look peculiar, are they attached at all? Yes they are Hebburn North and Hebburn South. Are they directly linked to Washington by road? |
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Post by jamie on Jul 14, 2016 8:10:39 GMT
Yes they are Hebburn North and Hebburn South. Are they directly linked to Washington by road? I can't say with absolute certainty, but it's a fairly urban area so I presume there are some roads and at the very least there are main roads that go through neighbouring constituencies. |
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Post by Adrian on Jul 14, 2016 9:53:09 GMT
"I can't say with absolute certainty," Strange answer to a question you can check the answer to by zooming in on the map program you've used. Or you can use www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/election-maps/gb/The answer is yes, by the way. Hebburn, Boldon and Washington is a somewhat strange assemblage but works quite well as a constituency idea. I'd be more concerned about having Whitburn and part of South Shields in Sunderland North. And that Sedgefield seat is a terrible mess. |
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Post by jamie on Jul 14, 2016 12:04:56 GMT
"I can't say with absolute certainty," Strange answer to a question you can check the answer to by zooming in on the map program you've used. Or you can use www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/election-maps/gb/The answer is yes, by the way. Hebburn, Boldon and Washington is a somewhat strange assemblage but works quite well as a constituency idea. I'd be more concerned about having Whitburn and part of South Shields in Sunderland North. And that Sedgefield seat is a terrible mess. I'm terrible at noticing geography on maps such as roads. I did check on google maps and I thought there was a road but couldn't say with certainty. On Sedgefield, I needed to move around wards to get seats within the quota and I didn't want to expand it into areas that are clearly part of other constituencies eg; Darlington. I'm happy to look at making it smaller if possible. |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 19, 2016 1:06:14 GMT
Durham, Gateshead & Sunderland Houghton & Sunderland South 71462 Sunderland Central 77998 Washington & Sunderland West 74867 South Shields & Sunderland North 72769 Gateshead East & Jarrow 76233 Gateshead West & Blaydon 76201 Chester-le-Street 73043 Derwentside 72962 Durham 73898 Dales of Tyne, Tees & Wear 71293 (How very doktorb) alternatively Bishop Auckland & Hexham Easington 73890 Hartlepool 71076 Sedgefield 76579 Hartlepool 74287 Stockton-on-Tees 75456  |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 27, 2016 8:17:58 GMT
Northumberland & Newcastle Berwick-upon-Tweed 74900 Wansbeck 76566 Blyth Valley 77824 North Shields 76111 Newcastle-upon-Tyne North 76191 Newcastle-upon-Tyne East 72706 Newcastle-upon-Tyne West 77312  |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 30, 2016 1:38:56 GMT
Traditional Northumberland & Durham Berwick & Morpeth 76306 Ashington & Blyth 77129 Cramlington 73971 Whitley Bay 72141 Wallsend 74150 Newcastle-upon-Tyne East 74231 Newcastle-upon-Tyne West 76904 Hexham & Prudhoe 72930 Gateshead 75081 Jarrow 76746 Sunderland North 75571 Washington 71848 Sunderland South 77998 Consett 75330 Chester-le-Street 77415 Peterlee 75556 Durham 73852 Bishop Auckland 71870 Newton Aycliffe 72184 Hartlepool 71076 Darlington 76848 Stockton-on-Tees 74487   |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 30, 2016 23:08:23 GMT
Traditional Northumberland & Durham Berwick & Morpeth 76306 Ashington & Blyth 77129 Cramlington 73971 Whitley Bay 72141 Wallsend 74150 Newcastle-upon-Tyne East 74231 Newcastle-upon-Tyne West 76904 Hexham & Prudhoe 72930 Gateshead 75081 Jarrow 76746 Sunderland North 75571 Washington 71848 Sunderland South 77998 Consett 75330 Chester-le-Street 77415 Peterlee 75556 Durham 73852 Bishop Auckland 71870 Newton Aycliffe 72184 Hartlepool 71076 Darlington 76848 Stockton-on-Tees 74487 Anyone? |
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Post by AustralianSwingVoter on Jul 31, 2016 22:00:22 GMT
Hello?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 22:11:54 GMT
Try posting when it isn't our bedtime. That's the trouble with this bit of the sub-forum; comments can be very easily buried. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Aug 1, 2016 19:20:15 GMT
And some posts just won't get responses, because there's no response that people particularly want to make to it. That doesn't necessarily mean they're bad posts, it may just be that people have said everything they feel they need to on a topic for the time being.
You'll particularly get this problem in the North East, as we haven't got many active members based up that way. Don't sweat it. Your work is being read and if people thought it was particularly terrible they'd say so.
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Post by Adrian on Aug 1, 2016 21:12:00 GMT
I'm interested in #2018review plans in general, but my interest starts to wane when the plan has been subjected to certain unncessary constraints, e.g. strictly following pre-1974 boundaries. dgmw, I'm as fascinated by old boundaries as the next anorak, but in this context the exercise does begin to smack of pointlessness.
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Post by jamie on Aug 11, 2016 14:38:00 GMT
I've been working on a new boundary proposal. Im hopeful I've tackled problems raised by others such as extremely long names (eg; Boldon, Hebburn and Washington which has now lost Boldon) and dodgy geography (eg; Sedgefield is now more compact and Whitburn is not in Sunderland). My biggest issues have been North Tyneside/Blyth and Teesside. The former has been solved insofar as there are no major town splits and the latter has actually led to very good constituencies imo. Will post soon.
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Post by jamie on Aug 15, 2016 12:55:21 GMT
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