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Post by andrea on Feb 29, 2016 23:34:29 GMT
Labour shortlist Cllr Gill Furniss Cllr Jayne Dunn Jayne Lim Was it an AWS or is there another reason why Oliver Coppard isn't on there? No AWS in the sanse men were allowed to apply as it is always the case with by-election selections. Longlist was 5 women and 5 men. After interviews that took place today, the NEC panel decided to go forward with those 3. |
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Post by maxque on Feb 29, 2016 23:45:36 GMT
Labour shortlist Cllr Gill Furniss Cllr Jayne Dunn Jayne Lim Was it an AWS or is there another reason why Oliver Coppard isn't on there? Jayne Dunn is a councillor for Broomhill, Cabinet member for Housing. Jayne Lim is a Fabian and a junior doctor (geriatrics, specialised in Health Economics). |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 29, 2016 23:46:52 GMT
Was it an AWS or is there another reason why Oliver Coppard isn't on there? Jayne Dunn is a councillor for Broomhill, Cabinet member for Housing. Jayne Lim is a Fabian and a junior doctor (geriatrics, specialised in Health Economics). London based methinks (Primrose hill!) |
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Post by mondialito on Mar 1, 2016 0:49:17 GMT
Furniss' to lose now, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 10:11:32 GMT
I wonder if there is some unspoken informal agreement that this goes to a councillor.
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Post by maxque on Mar 1, 2016 14:02:10 GMT
I wonder if there is some unspoken informal agreement that this goes to a councillor. Would be convenient. Dunn is up this year, Furniss is up in 2018 (but you can do a double vacancy by-election). Southey is 3 Lab, but UKIP is close behind. Broomhill is 2 Grn, 1 Lab. Greens managed to gain it on GE day, so I wouldn't be so sure they can hold it (but it doesn't matter, as the Lab councilor is up anyways). Southey is in the constituency, Broomhill is in Central. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Mar 1, 2016 16:12:11 GMT
I wonder if there is some unspoken informal agreement that this goes to a councillor. Would be convenient. Dunn is up this year, Furniss is up in 2018 (but you can do a double vacancy by-election). Southey is 3 Lab, but UKIP is close behind. Broomhill is 2 Grn, 1 Lab. Greens managed to gain it on GE day, so I wouldn't be so sure they can hold it (but it doesn't matter, as the Lab councilor is up anyways). Southey is in the constituency, Broomhill is in Central. Everybody's up this year as we're having all-ups on new boundaries. It also means that if Dunn or Furniss get selected they can simply not stand for the local election instead of the usual: I'm so certain I'm going to win I'm resigning from the council first. I've heard rumours the name will be Gillian Harpham on the ballot.  |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 1, 2016 22:00:59 GMT
Labour is a sentimental party. The only widow who didn't get selected when they put their name forward was Sharon Grant, but that was during the Blair years
Given that Gill Furniss looks like a very strong candidate she is the likely winner I'd have thought
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 1, 2016 22:08:48 GMT
Labour is a sentimental party. The only widow who didn't get selected when they put their name forward was Sharon Grant, but that was during the Blair yearsGiven that Gill Furniss looks like a very strong candidate she is the likely winner I'd have thought Ha! there were other reasons... |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 1, 2016 22:17:58 GMT
Labour is a sentimental party. The only widow who didn't get selected when they put their name forward was Sharon Grant, but that was during the Blair yearsGiven that Gill Furniss looks like a very strong candidate she is the likely winner I'd have thought Ha! there were other reasons... I gather - but the point still stands. We tend to go for a widow if they put themselves forward. Lena Jeger, Helen McElhone and Irene Adams come to mind |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 1, 2016 22:27:18 GMT
Ha! there were other reasons... I gather - but the point still stands. We tend to go for a widow if they put themselves forward. Lena Jeger, Helen McElhone and Irene Adams come to mind I wasn't disagreeing with that point Mike, although I seem to remember Barbara Boyce didn't succeed Jimmy. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 1, 2016 22:40:23 GMT
I gather - but the point still stands. We tend to go for a widow if they put themselves forward. Lena Jeger, Helen McElhone and Irene Adams come to mind I wasn't disagreeing with that point Mike, although I seem to remember Barbara Boyce didn't succeed Jimmy. Again, special circumstances given that it was Rotherham |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 1, 2016 22:57:30 GMT
I wasn't disagreeing with that point Mike, although I seem to remember Barbara Boyce didn't succeed Jimmy. Again, special circumstances given that it was Rotherham The most interesting example of this sort of thing was Ruth Dalton preceding her husband as the MP for Bishop Auckland even though he was the designated candidate for the seat.... And not dead. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 1, 2016 23:01:18 GMT
Again, special circumstances given that it was Rotherham The most interesting example of this sort of thing was Ruth Dalton preceding her husband as the MP for Bishop Auckland even though he was the designated candidate for the seat.... And not dead. There were special circumstances behind that. Hugh Dalton was a sitting MP, but was abandoning a marginal seat (Peckham) to move to a safe Durham mining seat. Then the sitting Labour MP died before the election. Rather than cause a byelection in Peckham by resigning to contest the byelection, Ruth Dalton offered to be a caretaker MP for the few months before the general election. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 1, 2016 23:32:55 GMT
The most interesting example of this sort of thing was Ruth Dalton preceding her husband as the MP for Bishop Auckland even though he was the designated candidate for the seat.... And not dead. There were special circumstances behind that. Hugh Dalton was a sitting MP, but was abandoning a marginal seat (Peckham) to move to a safe Durham mining seat. Then the sitting Labour MP died before the election. Rather than cause a byelection in Peckham by resigning to contest the byelection, Ruth Dalton offered to be a caretaker MP for the few months before the general election. Wasn't his selected successor as Labour candidate also already an elected MP somewhere (Darlington, Gateshead? Somewhere north of the Thames anyway) thus causing a triple domino rally of by-elections had his wife not intervened as a temporary MP? |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 1, 2016 23:37:32 GMT
There were special circumstances behind that. Hugh Dalton was a sitting MP, but was abandoning a marginal seat (Peckham) to move to a safe Durham mining seat. Then the sitting Labour MP died before the election. Rather than cause a byelection in Peckham by resigning to contest the byelection, Ruth Dalton offered to be a caretaker MP for the few months before the general election. Wasn't his selected successor as Labour candidate also already an elected MP somewhere (Darlington, Gateshead? Somewhere north of the Thames anyway) thus causing a triple domino rally of by-elections had his wife not intervened as a temporary MP? Indeed. John Beckett. He who later joined up with Mosley. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 1, 2016 23:38:52 GMT
He went further right than even Mosley; joining up with William Joyce to form the National Socialist League.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Mar 1, 2016 23:40:41 GMT
I've just Wikigoogled it to rejig my memory. Why did he move from Gateshead?
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 1, 2016 23:53:17 GMT
I've just Wikigoogled it to rejig my memory. Why did he move from Gateshead? He had an affair with an actress called Mrs Bonschier or something like that, but whether he wanted to get back to London to spend more time with her or fell foul of his more conservatively minded CLP I don't know. His son Francis wrote a biography of him so I suspect a full explanation is in there. |
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Post by greenchristian on Mar 2, 2016 0:00:56 GMT
The most interesting example of this sort of thing was Ruth Dalton preceding her husband as the MP for Bishop Auckland even though he was the designated candidate for the seat.... And not dead. There were special circumstances behind that. Hugh Dalton was a sitting MP, but was abandoning a marginal seat (Peckham) to move to a safe Durham mining seat. Then the sitting Labour MP died before the election. Rather than cause a byelection in Peckham by resigning to contest the byelection, Ruth Dalton offered to be a caretaker MP for the few months before the general election. If the general election was only a few months away, why bother holding the by-election in the first place? Why not just wait? |
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