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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 17:44:47 GMT
The Conservative candidate is Spencer Pitfield. The last Spencer P to enter parliament was assassinated on the grounds of the House of Commons. Just saying...... Probably less painful that standing for the Tories in this seat. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Mar 31, 2016 18:51:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 6:39:35 GMT
What about Steve Manion for Yorkshire First? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 11:22:40 GMT
What about Steve Manion for Yorkshire First? What about Steve Manion etc etc |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 11:23:56 GMT
What about Steve Manion for Yorkshire First? What about Steve Manion etc etc I thought he was a candidate as well so made 7 |
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Post by Yorkie on Apr 1, 2016 16:30:45 GMT
Bit weird from the Sheffield Telegraph that, as they ran another story and correctly listed Stevie as a candidate.
Regardless, the paperwork all signed and sealed and he very much is a candidate.
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Post by Yorkie on Apr 8, 2016 8:38:45 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Apr 23, 2016 10:47:21 GMT
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Apr 28, 2016 10:02:34 GMT
It's only just occurred to me that this by-election covers Hillsborough stadium. Can I ask if the inquests and the reaction to them is being given as a reason for people to vote a certain way?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 11:40:52 GMT
It's only just occurred to me that this by-election covers Hillsborough stadium. Can I ask if the inquests and the reaction to them is being given as a reason for people to vote a certain way? I would wager that there will be no connection whatever. |
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Post by neilm on Apr 28, 2016 17:42:49 GMT
It's only just occurred to me that this by-election covers Hillsborough stadium. Can I ask if the inquests and the reaction to them is being given as a reason for people to vote a certain way? I would wager that there will be no connection whatever. I'll wager that down in the Shakey or over at the Rawson Spring, someone is doing exactly what Harry suggests might be happening. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Apr 28, 2016 19:22:39 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 29, 2016 8:59:53 GMT
I would wager that there will be no connection whatever. I'll wager that down in the Shakey or over at the Rawson Spring, someone is doing exactly what Harry suggests might be happening. And given that Labour have got 50% of the vote in every election for 19 years what new effect will the verdict (which every one knew about) have? I can't see how this will effect anything. |
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Post by neilm on Apr 29, 2016 12:01:16 GMT
I'll wager that down in the Shakey or over at the Rawson Spring, someone is doing exactly what Harry suggests might be happening. And given that Labour have got 50% of the vote in every election for 19 years what new effect will the verdict (which every one knew about) have? I can't see how this will effect anything. Oh, I can't see it making a blind bit of difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 12:29:46 GMT
The disaster is not a particularly high profile issue in Sheffield itself, still less a partisan one.
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Post by neilm on Apr 29, 2016 13:25:16 GMT
The disaster is not a particularly high profile issue in Sheffield itself, still less a partisan one. It isn't, as our regular Sheffield posters will confirm (I used to go past the ground every day on my way to work). However, it'll be interesting to see if South Yorks Police get any local criticism in the doorstep: I've previously posted of my low opinion of them and, frankly, I'd be surprised there isn't an element of 'they were in bed with Thatcher' going on from some UKIP canvassers. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 29, 2016 18:18:55 GMT
The disaster is not a particularly high profile issue in Sheffield itself, still less a partisan one. It isn't, as our regular Sheffield posters will confirm (I used to go past the ground every day on my way to work). However, it'll be interesting to see if South Yorks Police get any local criticism in the doorstep: I've previously posted of my low opinion of them and, frankly, I'd be surprised there isn't an element of 'they were in bed with Thatcher' going on from some UKIP canvassers. I can concur there. For it to have any effect on the elections there would have to be a perception that the police were Labour's placemen. "The police have failed, kick Labour out!" Regardless of the local or national government any police dodgyness has been seen as the actions of the police, not any political control. There have been incidences of being seen to be the government's footsoldiers (Orgreave, G8 kettling, etc) but that's been seen as the government controlling their own private army. When people criticise the "the police" when you push them further they say that while there may be a few bad apples on the front line and those happy to sweep up the overtime to beat up miners, but it's those at the top that are the ones creating the problems. |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 29, 2016 18:23:06 GMT
It isn't, as our regular Sheffield posters will confirm (I used to go past the ground every day on my way to work). However, it'll be interesting to see if South Yorks Police get any local criticism in the doorstep: I've previously posted of my low opinion of them and, frankly, I'd be surprised there isn't an element of 'they were in bed with Thatcher' going on from some UKIP canvassers. I can concur there. For it to have any effect on the elections there would have to be a perception that the police were Labour's placemen. "The police have failed, kick Labour out!" Regardless of the local or national government any police dodgyness has been seen as the actions of the police, not any political control. There have been incidences of being seen to be the government's footsoldiers (Orgreave, G8 kettling, etc) but that's been seen as the government controlling their own private army. When people criticise the "the police" when you push them further they say that while there may be a few bad apples on the front line and those happy to sweep up the overtime to beat up miners, but it's those at the top that are the ones creating the problems. So it won't affect the by-election. But will it affect the Police and Crime Commissioner election? |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 29, 2016 18:56:32 GMT
I can concur there. For it to have any effect on the elections there would have to be a perception that the police were Labour's placemen. "The police have failed, kick Labour out!" Regardless of the local or national government any police dodgyness has been seen as the actions of the police, not any political control. There have been incidences of being seen to be the government's footsoldiers (Orgreave, G8 kettling, etc) but that's been seen as the government controlling their own private army. When people criticise the "the police" when you push them further they say that while there may be a few bad apples on the front line and those happy to sweep up the overtime to beat up miners, but it's those at the top that are the ones creating the problems. So it won't affect the by-election. But will it affect the Police and Crime Commissioner election? It would if Sheffield elected the PCC, but it doesn't, South Yorkshire elects the PCC. Though, this is the first PCC election held on the same day as other elections, so I think there'll be conseqeuntial increased turnout and the election will be more competetative than the last two times. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 29, 2016 21:29:06 GMT
It isn't, as our regular Sheffield posters will confirm (I used to go past the ground every day on my way to work). However, it'll be interesting to see if South Yorks Police get any local criticism in the doorstep: I've previously posted of my low opinion of them and, frankly, I'd be surprised there isn't an element of 'they were in bed with Thatcher' going on from some UKIP canvassers. I can concur there. For it to have any effect on the elections there would have to be a perception that the police were Labour's placemen. "The police have failed, kick Labour out!" Regardless of the local or national government any police dodgyness has been seen as the actions of the police, not any political control. There have been incidences of being seen to be the government's footsoldiers (Orgreave, G8 kettling, etc) but that's been seen as the government controlling their own private army. When people criticise the "the police" when you push them further they say that while there may be a few bad apples on the front line and those happy to sweep up the overtime to beat up miners, but it's those at the top that are the ones creating the problems. I'm not sure about the locals, but most of the Labour types I know who were at Orgreave or otherwise involved in the miners' strike generally place the blame on incomers from the Met and other forces. So there may also be an element of blaming outsiders, but feeling that the local police are mostly OK. |
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