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Post by hullenedge on Apr 3, 2016 10:51:30 GMT
Please forgive as I slightly amend...results did first appear in 1952. County Council results (England and Wales) were printed occasionally although 'Non political' appeared next to some counties (Oxon? The contestation rates were appalling. It was considered bad form in some parts to oppose a sitting Cty Cllr. No set day for polling either. London on the Thursday, West Riding Saturday, Lancashire Monday etc). I recall that the 68 London Boroughs were printed in the 1969 edition. Sadly disposed of many editions otherwise I'd upload.
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 3, 2016 11:12:24 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 3, 2016 11:59:00 GMT
Now found 1952 and 1973 editions. Uploaded to dropbox folder. Compare and contrast 1951 to 1972.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 17:58:49 GMT
Reading was a district under Berkshire. It became a unitary council (on the same boundaries) in 1997. So you'll find results up to 1996 in the pre-unitary districts, and from 1997 in the English unitaries. That's where they should be , and it's where East Berkshire and Wokingham are (being the others bits when Berkshire CC ceased to exist) - but of Reading there is no sign. Brighton 1973-95 also seems somehow absent. EDIT: And Mid Sussex. I can't find the Met Counties, but that's probably me being stupid. Then we share that stupidity. The county council election results in Hereford and Worcester, and Worcestershire, also can't be found. Another omission noted - those Welsh districts who elected by thirds (a relatively small number, admittedly) have their 1992 and 1994 results missing. Just browsing through this thread. Are there any other omissions from the Elections Centre, and have these been brought to their attention? |
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Post by andrewteale on Mar 8, 2017 18:13:38 GMT
There was one omission I noticed when writing Andrews Previews a week or two back, but I can't remember the details offhand.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 19:06:21 GMT
I've had a reply from Michael Thrasher himself regarding my e-mail enquiring about missing results from the Election Centre website:
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 23:53:20 GMT
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Post by thetop on Jul 20, 2017 21:28:46 GMT
Anyone have access to a list of abbreviations used for the pre-1985 results? The handbooks (at least the later ones) helpfully include an exhaustive list however these council specific PDFs include many acronyms or abbreviations for that period that are unfamiliar.
Failing that - something that gives you an idea of what the minor parties standing for council elections throughout the seventies/early-eighties were (beyond Res/Rate and the various Communist parties). Wikipedia only gets you so far.
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 20, 2017 22:33:38 GMT
Anyone have access to a list of abbreviations used for the pre-1985 results? The handbooks (at least the later ones) helpfully include an exhaustive list however these council specific PDFs include many acronyms or abbreviations for that period that are unfamiliar. Failing that - something that gives you an idea of what the minor parties standing for council elections throughout the seventies/early-eighties were (beyond Res/Rate and the various Communist parties). Wikipedia only gets you so far. if you put up some of the ones that are puzzling you , people here may be able to help or make educated guesses? |
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Post by greenhert on Jul 20, 2017 22:55:12 GMT
Anyone have access to a list of abbreviations used for the pre-1985 results? The handbooks (at least the later ones) helpfully include an exhaustive list however these council specific PDFs include many acronyms or abbreviations for that period that are unfamiliar. Failing that - something that gives you an idea of what the minor parties standing for council elections throughout the seventies/early-eighties were (beyond Res/Rate and the various Communist parties). Wikipedia only gets you so far. Other pre-1985 labels I am aware of include:
Ecol=Ecology Party (which became the Green Party in 1985, of course). WRP=Workers' Revolutionary Party. SU=Socialist Unity. Dem Lab=Democratic Labour (Lincoln only). COPS (Committee for the Prevention of a Police State) used by perennial candidate Jitendra Bardwaj
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Post by thetop on Jul 20, 2017 23:14:52 GMT
Anyone have access to a list of abbreviations used for the pre-1985 results? The handbooks (at least the later ones) helpfully include an exhaustive list however these council specific PDFs include many acronyms or abbreviations for that period that are unfamiliar. Failing that - something that gives you an idea of what the minor parties standing for council elections throughout the seventies/early-eighties were (beyond Res/Rate and the various Communist parties). Wikipedia only gets you so far. Other pre-1985 labels I am aware of include:
Ecol=Ecology Party (which became the Green Party in 1985, of course). WRP=Workers' Revolutionary Party. SU=Socialist Unity. Dem Lab=Democratic Labour (Lincoln only). COPS (Committee for the Prevention of a Police State) used by perennial candidate Jitendra Bardwaj
I was familiar with all but the last. There's a Democratic Labour in Barnsley for the '73 election and keeping with that council, there's also 'Cit', 'T&OOA' and 'Oth' in subsequent elections for that period. I might compile a list as finsobruce recommended when I have time. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 20, 2017 23:59:08 GMT
Other pre-1985 labels I am aware of include:
Ecol=Ecology Party (which became the Green Party in 1985, of course). WRP=Workers' Revolutionary Party. SU=Socialist Unity. Dem Lab=Democratic Labour (Lincoln only). COPS (Committee for the Prevention of a Police State) used by perennial candidate Jitendra Bardwaj
I was familiar with all but the last. There's a Democratic Labour in Barnsley for the '73 election and keeping with that council, there's also 'Cit', 'T&OOA' and 'Oth' in subsequent elections for that period. I might compile a list as finsobruce recommended when I have time. Cit might possibly be "Citizens" a label for an anti Labour party (ie we're not really the Tory party) known from before the Second World War? |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 21, 2017 0:22:54 GMT
Other pre-1985 labels I am aware of include:
Ecol=Ecology Party (which became the Green Party in 1985, of course). WRP=Workers' Revolutionary Party. SU=Socialist Unity. Dem Lab=Democratic Labour (Lincoln only). COPS (Committee for the Prevention of a Police State) used by perennial candidate Jitendra Bardwaj
I was familiar with all but the last. There's a Democratic Labour in Barnsley for the '73 election and keeping with that council, there's also 'Cit', 'T&OOA' and 'Oth' in subsequent elections for that period. I might compile a list as finsobruce recommended when I have time. I've just remembered that I came across the "Citizens" party in the Davies and Morley books of "County Borough Elections in England and Wales, 1919-1938". They all have lists at the beginning. The volume I'm looking at right now is "Barnsley-Bournemouth" and includes Blackpool which had both CHKA (Company House Keepers Association) and H&A (Hotel and Apartments Association) candidates. The former of those two had councillors elected. |
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Post by thetop on Jul 21, 2017 0:35:56 GMT
I was familiar with all but the last. There's a Democratic Labour in Barnsley for the '73 election and keeping with that council, there's also 'Cit', 'T&OOA' and 'Oth' in subsequent elections for that period. I might compile a list as finsobruce recommended when I have time. I've just remembered that I came across the "Citizens" party in the Davies and Morley books of "County Borough Elections in England and Wales, 1919-1938". They all have lists at the beginning. The volume I'm looking at right now is "Barnsley-Bournemouth" and includes Blackpool which had both CHKA (Company House Keepers Association) and H&A (Hotel and Apartments Association) candidates. The former of those two had councillors elected. Thank you for that information, and the fact that at least one on Google Books with the abbreviation page viewable, is an enormous help. I note with interest there is a Democratic Labour Party listed in the Chester-East Ham, so there must be another historical DLP that wasn't Dick Taverne's or the expelled Walsall grouping. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 21, 2017 8:35:26 GMT
I've just remembered that I came across the "Citizens" party in the Davies and Morley books of "County Borough Elections in England and Wales, 1919-1938". They all have lists at the beginning. The volume I'm looking at right now is "Barnsley-Bournemouth" and includes Blackpool which had both CHKA (Company House Keepers Association) and H&A (Hotel and Apartments Association) candidates. The former of those two had councillors elected. Thank you for that information, and the fact that at least one on Google Books with the abbreviation page viewable, is an enormous help. I note with interest there is a Democratic Labour Party listed in the Chester-East Ham, so there must be another historical DLP that wasn't Dick Taverne's or the expelled Walsall grouping. Indeed. they are bloody expensive, even "secondhand". I have Volumes 1-3 and am saving up for volume 4 (Exeter - Hull).  it's a fairly straightforward name to use if you think about it, esp in the age before registration of party names. I suspect this was East Ham but i will check for you when I get home this evening. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 21, 2017 20:43:04 GMT
I've just remembered that I came across the "Citizens" party in the Davies and Morley books of "County Borough Elections in England and Wales, 1919-1938". They all have lists at the beginning. The volume I'm looking at right now is "Barnsley-Bournemouth" and includes Blackpool which had both CHKA (Company House Keepers Association) and H&A (Hotel and Apartments Association) candidates. The former of those two had councillors elected. Thank you for that information, and the fact that at least one on Google Books with the abbreviation page viewable, is an enormous help. I note with interest there is a Democratic Labour Party listed in the Chester-East Ham, so there must be another historical DLP that wasn't Dick Taverne's or the expelled Walsall grouping. And indeed it was East Ham, with one candidate William Jackson in Manor Park ward in 1919 (he finished 3rd with 6.8%). It was a product of the fact that there had been no agreed Labour candidate for East Ham North in 1918 and William Mann had stood for the National party with Labour/TU support - sort of. Democratic Labour here were roughly in the "patriotic" corner as far as the war had been concerned. It collapsed pretty soon after, although there were independent Labour candidates later, ironically including the man who had beaten Jackson, Cllr Allwright. I note in passing that the Vigilance Society had two councillors elected in Croydon in 1938 one in Addington ward and the other in Upper Norwood ward. And one of the Labour candidates in Addiscombe ward was called Mrs Alefounder. |
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Post by markf on Jul 21, 2017 20:59:37 GMT
I was familiar with all but the last. There's a Democratic Labour in Barnsley for the '73 election and keeping with that council, there's also 'Cit', 'T&OOA' and 'Oth' in subsequent elections for that period. I might compile a list as finsobruce recommended when I have time. who was the Democratic Labour candidate in Barnsley in 1973 please |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 21, 2017 21:25:33 GMT
I was familiar with all but the last. There's a Democratic Labour in Barnsley for the '73 election and keeping with that council, there's also 'Cit', 'T&OOA' and 'Oth' in subsequent elections for that period. I might compile a list as finsobruce recommended when I have time. who was the Democratic Labour candidate in Barnsley in 1973 please There were three candidates : D Eadon got elected in Hoyland Nether ward with what must have been a thumping personal vote. He polled over 2,500 more votes than the other two, who were.... G Wilkinson finished bottom of the poll in Ardsley ward behind the three Labour candidates. K Hesford finished bottom behind Labour, Ind, Ind Labour, and Conservative. In Hoyland Nether an Ind candidate finished bottom but with a healthy 1600 votes. |
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Post by markf on Jul 21, 2017 21:33:34 GMT
Thank you , well Dennis became on Independent councillor & the last time he stood was as an SDP councillor where he lost . Ken Hesford became a councillor for the Ratepayers
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Post by thetop on Jul 21, 2017 22:47:42 GMT
Focusing on the Metropolitan Boroughs between 73-85, a flavour of what I'm after:-
ACL Sefton 76-79
ALT P Rochdale 73
Antidis Rotherham 75
ASDAG Sunderland 75
CAG St Helens 80
CFGC Kirklees 79
Comm All Gateshead 79
Dem South Tyneside 78
DIG Walsall 76
DSPLA Newcastle 83
HHF Knowsley 76
IWAGB Coventry 78
KHF Knowsley 73-82
OBOESD Stockport 79
Own Occ Tameside 73
Ppl Rights Tameside 83
PR/PPR Kirklees 73-75
Protest Coventry 73
PRP Bury 82
RAG Newcastle 75
Rytonian Gateshead 75-82
Save Newt Pty Tameside 78
SLR/SCTC Kirklees 79-80
STFM Salford 78
TAG Salford 75
TBAPPA Sandwell 83
TUUF Wolverhampton 73
UDI Kirklees 79-80
UF Sandwell 83
Obviously many of these will be parochial and here today, gone tomorrow labels but if anyone knows what they were in full I'd appreciate the info.
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