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Post by neilm on Oct 24, 2015 15:10:43 GMT
Skinner getting the job would be amusing. And simultaneously annoying.
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 24, 2015 16:35:25 GMT
Skinner getting the job would be amusing. And simultaneously annoying. Well Ken Clarke has already said that he will retire at the next election so Skinner only needs to outlast Dame Gerald. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 24, 2015 19:49:07 GMT
Skinner getting the job would be amusing. And simultaneously annoying. My God, he'd almost have an achievement to show for his time. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 24, 2015 22:11:05 GMT
Skinner getting the job would be amusing. And simultaneously annoying. My God, he'd almost have an achievement to show for his time. While I suppose it can't be ruled out it does seem unlikely that he would stand for re-election again. He would be 88 on the day of the next election and that really is getting on a bit to be standing for election to a 5 year term, especially for someone who has had some fairly serious health problems. Same goes for Kaufmen who would be just shy of 90. After the 3 remaining 1970 MPs the list goes Sir Peter Bottomley (1975 by election) Geoffrey Robinson (1976 by election) Sir Alan Haselhurst (1977 by election) David Winnick (1979) Barry Sheerman (1979) Frank Field (1979) Harriet Harman (1982 by election) There are then 9 from 1983 starting with Kevin Barron. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 11:05:02 GMT
Skinner has said numerous times that he would not accept the role of FOTA, if rejecting the title/job/role is something he is permitted to do....
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 25, 2015 15:38:12 GMT
I would have thought the NEC will give them a good range of candidates to select from including left wingers
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 25, 2015 18:15:23 GMT
The only NEC shortlisting since the 2010 election that didn't seem to reflect local wishes was Rotheram, and there were very good reasons for that. A stitch-up is unlikely, because that doesn't seem to be the NEC norm these days and the leadership doesn't have the organisational power (even if it has the desire) to change that.
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Post by La Fontaine on Oct 25, 2015 19:45:44 GMT
Wasn't Heywood and Middleton a stitch-up which went wrong. Not to mention the Euro selections.........
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 25, 2015 22:37:29 GMT
Can't see much evidence to suggest Heywood & Middleton was a stitch-up, and Liz McInnes was hardly a big enough name to be a likely beneficiary. And the NEC doesn't decide the European shortlists. At most there was a bit of whinging about the London list, but that's normal in an area that's as factionalised as that - there's no evidence to suggest it was a stitch-up, just rivalries playing out through the standard format.
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Post by La Fontaine on Oct 25, 2015 23:46:10 GMT
Can't see much evidence to suggest Heywood & Middleton was a stitch-up, and Liz McInnes was hardly a big enough name to be a likely beneficiary. And the NEC doesn't decide the European shortlists. At most there was a bit of whinging about the London list, but that's normal in an area that's as factionalised as that - there's no evidence to suggest it was a stitch-up, just rivalries playing out through the standard format. She wasn't the intended candidate - it went wrong! And your comment about the Euro selections is ignorant rubbish - as I know personally. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 26, 2015 9:27:43 GMT
Can't see much evidence to suggest Heywood & Middleton was a stitch-up, and Liz McInnes was hardly a big enough name to be a likely beneficiary. And the NEC doesn't decide the European shortlists. At most there was a bit of whinging about the London list, but that's normal in an area that's as factionalised as that - there's no evidence to suggest it was a stitch-up, just rivalries playing out through the standard format. She wasn't the intended candidate - it went wrong! And your comment about the Euro selections is ignorant rubbish - as I know personally. Is it the north-east you had the issue with? What precisely was the problem - I can't see anything about it on the Euro elections thread. |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 26, 2015 10:10:18 GMT
Can't see much evidence to suggest Heywood & Middleton was a stitch-up, and Liz McInnes was hardly a big enough name to be a likely beneficiary. And the NEC doesn't decide the European shortlists. At most there was a bit of whinging about the London list, but that's normal in an area that's as factionalised as that - there's no evidence to suggest it was a stitch-up, just rivalries playing out through the standard format. She wasn't the intended candidate - it went wrong! And your comment about the Euro selections is ignorant rubbish - as I know personally. A stitch up that "goes wrong" is, by definition, not a very effective one I would have thought...... |
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 26, 2015 13:43:26 GMT
She wasn't the intended candidate - it went wrong! And your comment about the Euro selections is ignorant rubbish - as I know personally. A stitch up that "goes wrong" is, by definition, not a very effective one I would have thought...... Sometimes an attempted stitch up is so obvious that the local activists vote for the "wrong candidate" out of sheer bloody mindedness. |
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Post by mondialito on Oct 26, 2015 15:16:10 GMT
A stitch up that "goes wrong" is, by definition, not a very effective one I would have thought...... Sometimes an attempted stitch up is so obvious that the local activists vote for the "wrong candidate" out of sheer bloody mindedness. Or do a Blaenau Gwent and back an independent candidate. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 26, 2015 16:55:36 GMT
Sometimes an attempted stitch up is so obvious that the local activists vote for the "wrong candidate" out of sheer bloody mindedness. Or do a Blaenau Gwent and back an independent candidate. As did Merthyr Tydfil 35 years earlier. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 26, 2015 20:05:15 GMT
My God, he'd almost have an achievement to show for his time. While I suppose it can't be ruled out it does seem unlikely that he would stand for re-election again. He would be 88 on the day of the next election and that really is getting on a bit to be standing for election to a 5 year term, especially for someone who has had some fairly serious health problems. Same goes for Kaufmen who would be just shy of 90. After the 3 remaining 1970 MPs the list goes Sir Peter Bottomley (1975 by election) Geoffrey Robinson (1976 by election) Sir Alan Haselhurst (1977 by election) David Winnick (1979) Barry Sheerman (1979) Frank Field (1979) Harriet Harman (1982 by election) There are then 9 from 1983 starting with Kevin Barron. I don't think Tom Brake likes being reminded that he is the LD contender for FOTH. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 26, 2015 20:16:21 GMT
My God, he'd almost have an achievement to show for his time. While I suppose it can't be ruled out it does seem unlikely that he would stand for re-election again. He would be 88 on the day of the next election and that really is getting on a bit to be standing for election to a 5 year term, especially for someone who has had some fairly serious health problems. Same goes for Kaufmen who would be just shy of 90. After the 3 remaining 1970 MPs the list goes Sir Peter Bottomley (1975 by election) Geoffrey Robinson (1976 by election) Sir Alan Haselhurst (1977 by election) David Winnick (1979) Barry Sheerman (1979) Frank Field (1979) Harriet Harman (1982 by election) There are then 9 from 1983 starting with Kevin Barron. Of course Winnick was first elected in 1966 for Croydon South. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 20:41:37 GMT
While I suppose it can't be ruled out it does seem unlikely that he would stand for re-election again. He would be 88 on the day of the next election and that really is getting on a bit to be standing for election to a 5 year term, especially for someone who has had some fairly serious health problems. Same goes for Kaufmen who would be just shy of 90. After the 3 remaining 1970 MPs the list goes Sir Peter Bottomley (1975 by election) Geoffrey Robinson (1976 by election) Sir Alan Haselhurst (1977 by election) David Winnick (1979) Barry Sheerman (1979) Frank Field (1979) Harriet Harman (1982 by election) There are then 9 from 1983 starting with Kevin Barron. I don't think Tom Brake likes being reminded that he is the LD contender for FOTH. The last Liberal Father of the House was David Lloyd George, who held the title between 1929 and 1945. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 26, 2015 23:29:27 GMT
Paul Nuttalls to be the candidate of the UKIPs.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 26, 2015 23:37:23 GMT
Paul Nuttalls to be the candidate of the UKIPs. Picking a Mickey Mouser is a strange choice for a seat like this. |
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