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Post by casualobserver on Apr 24, 2015 0:03:22 GMT
Or refloat after this election. In Swale the lib dems are standing only 7 candidates - for the main part old stalwarts who held office over a decade ago and whose names always go forward as paper candidates. Personally I think it will be easier to fight back if they do have few candidates to get abysmal ratings, and can make a more convincing comeback in 415 years time if they can boast a trebeling of candidate numbers and have a couple of wards they can make an effort to be relevant in. It could be a long climb back, but it's easier to start with an improvement than a continued struggle... Corrected that for you! Seriously, though, the phenomenon of the LibDem collapse in Swale needs to be put into some historical context. 1. The LibDems only really took off during the difficult Conservative local election years of the 1990s. 2. They lost a couple of key activists who migrated out of the area. 3. They never really established themselves politically in any ward - it always remained the individual who got support, not the party. 4. The new LibDem blood in the last 13 years has been anaemic - its just bad luck for them, geographically, that no new activist(s) have come along who are capable of re-invigorating the group locally. 5. Labour's co-ordinated local election successes over the last 13 years have given anti-Tory voters a more credible party to rally around than the LibDems.
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 30, 2015 21:44:41 GMT
Latest poll: Lab 34 Con 32 UKIP 17 LibDem 8 Green 4.
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Post by tonygreaves on Apr 30, 2015 22:06:20 GMT
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Post by Robert Waller on May 6, 2015 19:52:36 GMT
Panelbase LAB 33% (-1), CON 31% (-1%), UKIP 16% (-1), LD 8% (NC), GRN 5% (+1), SNP 5%, OTH 2
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Post by jollyroger93 on Feb 5, 2017 16:50:09 GMT
Fair to say the Scottish Tories are back!
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 26, 2017 16:06:18 GMT
I think there is a previous thread for these?
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Post by John Chanin on Apr 26, 2017 16:11:58 GMT
Yes. AdminSTB can we move this to the existing Panelbase thread?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 16:17:13 GMT
Done.
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 26, 2017 17:13:19 GMT
I think there is a previous thread for these? is it more or less misleading than this one?
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Post by Tom on May 16, 2017 15:11:03 GMT
Pollsters setting themselves up for another big fail with the Labour score I think.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 16:08:07 GMT
Pollsters setting themselves up for another big fail with the Labour score I think. Yes, totally agreed.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 16, 2017 16:54:56 GMT
Yep anything over 30% is wrong - 33% is just fucking embarrassing
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Post by Sibboleth on May 16, 2017 17:22:34 GMT
It is certainly possible that some polling firms are overstating the Labour vote (similarly it's not impossible that this is also true of the Conservative vote) but if the argument for why this must be the case is "INCONCEIVABLE!" then... er...
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Post by The Bishop on May 16, 2017 17:25:23 GMT
Also let us not forget that if there is any uncertainty about their findings, since the last GE pollsters have generally given the Tories the benefit of the doubt.
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