Greek General Election, January 2015

[Devil Wincarnate]

LAOS have said that only a vote for them can prevent left-wing dominance.  That should raise a laugh.

[Devil Wincarnate]

Clearly someone is reading this thread, as Ekathimerini reports the following:
"16.17 New Democracy issues statement asking for judicial probe over posts of alleged exit polls on the Internet".

[mboy]

Jan 23, 2015 23:35:57 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Tsipras is saying he will demand half of the debt is forgiven, but I'm struggling to see what he'll hit back with if they don't.

There's no way he can get that - it would bring down the Euro, as Portugal, Spain and Italy (and then the rest, too) would be queueing up to all get half their debt "forgiven" - and there would be no way to deny them - which the Euro simply wouldnt be able to handle. It would be safer for the Euro to eject Greece than to allow mass haircuts in the Med. (The haircut in Greece would be 66%, as 1/4 of Greece national debt is internal, and so cant be written off by Syrzia as it would bring down Greek banks).

All this makes you wonder what those morons who refused to vote for the compromise Presidential candidate thought they were going to achieve...

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I'm looking forward to a cheap holiday in Greece

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jan 25, 2015 16:17:07 GMT @rlemkin said:

I'm looking forward to a cheap holiday in Greece

I'm off to Budapest soon and was excited by the prices- but imagine the bargain a hol in Greece could end up being!

[iain]

Greek exit polls suggest Syriza win

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30975437

[iain]

Exit poll
Syriza - 35.5%-39.5% (146-158 seats)
New Democracy - 23%-27%
To Potami - 6.4% - 8%
Golden Dawn - 6.4% - 8.0%
KKE - 4.7%-5.7%
PASOK - 4.2%-5.2%
Independent Greeks - 3.5%-4.5%
Kinima - 2.2%-3.2%

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[dizz]

Jan 25, 2015 17:26:45 GMT doktorb🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ said:

How absurd.

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Hon. Toby Young, forever bent on disproving the theory that political skill is inherited.

[mboy]

LOL, to be fair, that is pretty silly.

If Syrzia are going to win it would be best that they have a majority (despite it being on a fairly small % of the vote) because then they wont be able to blame their failures on anyone except their own delusions.

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Though just as silly as Toby Young are those on the left who are now saying "Look, UK Labour, Greece shows that being firmly anti-austerity is a way to win power".

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Jan 25, 2015 17:11:07 GMT @boogieeck said:

Jan 25, 2015 16:17:07 GMT @rlemkin said:

I'm looking forward to a cheap holiday in Greece

me too, but of course it wont be hypocritical of me.

[Robert Waller]

Anyone know, please, if there are any other sites recording the real results as they come in other than this one?

ekloges.ypes.gr/current/v/public/index.html?lang=en#{"cls":"main","params":{}}


(Nothing on it at 18.25 hrs our time)

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Jan 25, 2015 18:26:03 GMT Robert Waller said:

Anyone know, please, if there are any other sites recording the real results as they come in other than this one?

ekloges.ypes.gr/current/v/public/index.html?lang=en#{"cls":"main","params":{}}


(Nothing on it at 18.25 hrs our time)

If you choose the 'Electoral Districts' tab and then sort on '%' you can see which districts are the closest to completing. The most advanced at the moment is on 34% of the vote counted.

[Robert Waller]

Thanks David - just discovered that myself during a phone call wit Paul Maggs of The Election Game.
You can also see the changes from 2012 for each party when calling up individual districts.
Main feature seems to be a large swing from PASOK to Syriza.

[Devil Wincarnate]

Jan 25, 2015 19:04:36 GMT @trident said:

My feelings on this are ambivalent. I am glad that the Greeks have stood up for themselves and ejected what was little more than a puppet government.

On the other hand, Syriza is a party of the hard left. They may look telegenic and unthreatening, but as we can see from examples like Venezuela, hard left economics doesn't work. And it is questionable whether hard left politics, when implemented, is compatible with liberal democracy and the rule of law. No doubt we will have some idiots holding up Alexis Tsipras as an example for Labour to follow......

My favourite comment from a Syriza supporter so far is "this is the moment austerity ends".  Now, unless someone had a massive gamble on Syriza to win, or the magic money tree has been found on Patmos, it ain't ending when you've still not fixed the problem of taking in insufficient revenue.

[chorleyboy]

Perhaps someone should of reminded him which language the word panacea came from .

[Devonian]