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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 20, 2016 23:14:45 GMT
Can't find the 1992 election thread.
I've been lucky enough to receive a copy of Sky's 1992 election show and the following declarations were shown either in full or partially - (mostly partially), excluding those which were also shown on BBC and/or ITV:
Eltham
Kingswood
Dumfries
Nottingham East
Nottingham North
Nottingham South
Wallasey (no sound but more than what the BBC showed)
Cheadle
Belfast North
Belfast South
B'ham Sparkbrook
B'ham Erdington
B'ham Yardley
Blackpool North
Blackpool South
Dulwich
Peckham
Southwark & Bermondsey
East Lothian
Edinburgh East
Edinburgh Pentlands
Edinburgh South
Edinburgh Central
Southampton Itchen (part of Chope's speech)
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 20, 2016 23:15:32 GMT
I trust the Sky 1992 show will be wending its way to the great tube of U ...
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 20, 2016 23:18:07 GMT
I trust the Sky 1992 show will be wending its way to the great tube of U ... I tried to upload Sky's 2010 election coverage and received a warning from YouTube so unfortunately not at the moment. BBC and ITV don't mind, in fact a BBC producer sent me a message saying he found my uploads useful because they were easier to watch than accessing the BBC archive. |
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Post by thirdchill on Jun 21, 2016 1:38:28 GMT
I trust the Sky 1992 show will be wending its way to the great tube of U ... I tried to upload Sky's 2010 election coverage and received a warning from YouTube so unfortunately not at the moment. BBC and ITV don't mind, in fact a BBC producer sent me a message saying he found my uploads useful because they were easier to watch than accessing the BBC archive. Sky can be quite protective when it comes to copyright and intellectual property rights www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36575684 |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 8:04:30 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 22, 2016 10:13:34 GMT
Well, even Blair never managed *that* again  |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 10:15:21 GMT
I'm sure Corbyn could manage to get a 30% swing.
It wouldn't be towards Labour, mind.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 22, 2016 10:38:03 GMT
I will continue to comment objectively and even-handedly on party and leadership matters, whoever wins |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 22, 2016 11:34:17 GMT
I'm sure Corbyn could manage to get a 30% swing. It wouldn't be towards Labour, mind. I'm not sure he could get a 30% swing against Labour as the Consevative majority is over 40%. If the Lib Dems were to shoot up to over 50% and Labour's share collapsed, then that might constitute a swing of 30% from Labour to Lib Dem. But I have heard it argued (I forget by whom) that anything other than that between Conservative and Labour does not constitute swing |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 11:35:26 GMT
I'm sure Corbyn could manage to get a 30% swing. It wouldn't be towards Labour, mind. I'm not sure he could get a 30% swing against Labour as the Consevative majority is over 40%. If the Lib Dems were to shoot up to over 50% and Labour's share collapsed, then that might constitute a swing of 30% from Labour to Lib Dem. But I have heard it argued (I forget by whom) that anything other than that between Conservative and Labour does not constitute swing Indeed. But I was referring to byelections generally, not to a specific one. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 22, 2016 11:37:50 GMT
Quite _ I thought we were discussing the Witney by-election for some reason
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 22, 2016 11:39:32 GMT
Might also be worth pointing out, in a historical context, that the clutch of by-elections in mid-1994 all saw big swings towards Labour - *before* Blair became leader.
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Post by Andrew_S on Sept 22, 2016 11:41:38 GMT
I've just learnt that Ian Pearson was the Labour candidate in Bexhill & Battle in 1983. He had an interesting middle name: Phares. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 12:17:52 GMT
I've just learnt that Ian Pearson was the Labour candidate in Bexhill & Battle in 1983. He had an interesting middle name: Phares. His father was actually called Phares Pearson; probably a relative of this guy. Ian Pearson was also (very briefly, and when very young) a member of the Militant tendency. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 22, 2016 12:28:53 GMT
Ian Pearson was also (very briefly, and when very young) a member of the Militant tendency Indeed, I recall the slightly desperate attempts of the Tories to big that up in the by-election. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Sept 22, 2016 17:30:42 GMT
Here's a playlist of coverage of the Dudley West byelection from November-December 1994. Includes the full byelection special, featuring the celebrated moment when "it blew the computer up": Labour's peak moment was right there. It had an effect on the opinion polls too. Gallup, 4-9 January 1995: Lab 62, Con 18.5, LD 14 (43.5% lead) That remains the biggest ever lead for any party in any VI poll since 1943. It was also the only time to date that the Conservatives fell below 20%. Labour did manage to hit 63.2% in October 1997, however. Thanks to David, in particular for providing something for nostalgic moderate Labour supporters to watch (sorry if that sounds cheeky  ). It's a coincidence really because I was looking for coverage of that by-election myself a few months ago and found some on ITN Source. I also stumbled across footage of the 1996 locals when Frank Dobson and Hilary Armstrong were posing with piles of red and blue tins to show off how many councils Labour had control of compared with the Conservatives. www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/ITN/1996/05/03/BSP030596020/?s=frank%20AND%20dobson |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 24, 2016 18:43:28 GMT
I have somehow (but do not ask me how) managed to transfer the last six hours of February 1974 and the first six hours of October 1974 onto my computer so I will be uploading them to YouTube when I am in a position to do so (post notional calculations et al). But watching all of these election programmes has given me an idea, re-creating election graphics for past elections (for instance the 1992 swingometer for the 1964 general election or the 2005 three party battleground for the 1987 general election). Now some of those graphics are very easy but some are very challenging indeed, therefore I would like to know if there anyone who is more versed in computer graphics who would be able to help?
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 16, 2016 10:04:16 GMT
Just discovered this on YouTube, courtesy of Davıd Boothroyd . I hadn't seen this since it was first aired and have tried searching for it before. |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Oct 23, 2016 14:31:56 GMT
It's a shame that by-elections don't get anywhere near the coverage that they used to. In the 1990s it seems that the BBC would have by-election specials with Dimbleby, Snow, Kellner et al. The Wiki article for the 1990 Mid Staffordshire by-election states that both BBC and ITN went as far as conducting an exit poll in the constituency.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 23, 2016 18:06:59 GMT
It's a shame that by-elections don't get anywhere near the coverage that they used to. In the 1990s it seems that the BBC would have by-election specials with Dimbleby, Snow, Kellner et al. The Wiki article for the 1990 Mid Staffordshire by-election states that both BBC and ITN went as far as conducting an exit poll in the constituency. You are quite right, even as late as 2004 the by-election special was something I would always stay up for (but since the launch of the 24 hour news channels perhaps the view is that they are not needed) |
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