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Post by johnloony on Sept 28, 2014 21:45:43 GMT
Perhaps the Conservative and Labour Parties are ignoring Clacton in the same way that Labour and the Lib Dems ignored Haltemprice & Howden.
Or perhaps Conservatives are concentrating on defending Rochester & Strood, and Labour people are defending heywood & Middleton, having written off Clacton.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Sept 29, 2014 9:24:31 GMT
Though there's not much active sign of by-election frenzy in the town - very few posters indeed last time I was there. I saw a large number of Carswell posters (you can't really call them UKIP posters as the party name's not really prominent), but apart from the garden boards they aren't very distinctive so you only see them when you walk quite close to the window. Not sure what UKIP is playing at there. The garden boards are far more distinctive. I only saw one Tory and one Labour poster. Overall there does not seem to be much of a frenzy, as non UKIP people don't seem to be trying and UKIP have chosen an almost invisible colour palette for their "I'm backing Douglas Carswell" posters. I've been back since and there were more posters - UKIP have rolled their boards out early and those few that the Tories do have are large ones. For now Labour have still been sticking to small window posters, but we've managed to get a decent number of people to take them. Other commitments have prevented me from getting down there as much as I would have liked, but both experience on the doorstep and what other people have told me has been reasonable. |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 29, 2014 20:05:57 GMT
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Post by Pimpernal on Sept 29, 2014 20:47:13 GMT
So very Dom Joly...
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 1, 2014 22:10:05 GMT
I think their hope that he might return and honour them with another work might be a forlorn one... |
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Post by Robert on Oct 2, 2014 15:16:09 GMT
I was there last week. One confusing factor is that a local estate agent uses 'UKIP coloured' boards. Several houses which I thought were supporting UKIP were up for sale!!
PM been there today.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 2, 2014 19:39:08 GMT
Miliband was there the day before, but bizarrely little coverage of that in either national or local press.
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Post by middyman on Oct 2, 2014 19:55:15 GMT
Miliband was there the day before, but bizarrely little coverage of that in either national or local press. They probably forgot to mention it. |
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Post by right on Oct 2, 2014 20:23:04 GMT
Miliband was there the day before, but bizarrely little coverage of that in either national or local press. Would have been different if there was a perception that Tim Young stood a chance. Probably would have garnered more coverage if he had gone earlier in the campaign when no one was quite sure where the chips would fall. He better get down to Rochester, and fast. |
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Post by right on Oct 2, 2014 20:31:42 GMT
I saw a large number of Carswell posters (you can't really call them UKIP posters as the party name's not really prominent), but apart from the garden boards they aren't very distinctive so you only see them when you walk quite close to the window. Not sure what UKIP is playing at there. The garden boards are far more distinctive. I only saw one Tory and one Labour poster. Overall there does not seem to be much of a frenzy, as non UKIP people don't seem to be trying and UKIP have chosen an almost invisible colour palette for their "I'm backing Douglas Carswell" posters. I've been back since and there were more posters - UKIP have rolled their boards out early and those few that the Tories do have are large ones. For now Labour have still been sticking to small window posters, but we've managed to get a decent number of people to take them. Other commitments have prevented me from getting down there as much as I would have liked, but both experience on the doorstep and what other people have told me has been reasonable. The garden boards have made a difference as you can now see them. UKIP window posters can be missed even if you are walking past the house, I've spotted a couple only when walking up the drive. Perhaps I've been in the wrong parts of the constituency (I haven't been to Jaywick or many of the rural parts) but I really have not seen Labour posters around, and the red-yellow contrast means that you can see those from miles away. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 2, 2014 21:22:58 GMT
Miliband was there the day before, but bizarrely little coverage of that in either national or local press. Would have been different if there was a perception that Tim Young stood a chance. Probably would have garnered more coverage if he had gone earlier in the campaign when no one was quite sure where the chips would fall. I think the assumption from day 1 has been that UKIP would take it, and once the polls came out there was no way anybody could ever change that assumption on the part of the press. In any case, nobody thinks the Tories stand a chance either, but Cameron gets the mention. I wouldn't expect wall-to-wall coverage, but I'm a little surprised that the leader of the opposition visiting Clacton would not be a story for the local press. |
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Post by right on Oct 2, 2014 22:46:00 GMT
Would have been different if there was a perception that Tim Young stood a chance. Probably would have garnered more coverage if he had gone earlier in the campaign when no one was quite sure where the chips would fall. I think the assumption from day 1 has been that UKIP would take it, and once the polls came out there was no way anybody could ever change that assumption on the part of the press. In any case, nobody thinks the Tories stand a chance either, but Cameron gets the mention. I wouldn't expect wall-to-wall coverage, but I'm a little surprised that the leader of the opposition visiting Clacton would not be a story for the local press. I saw Miliband on the Clacton Gazette website today in the most read articles. Cameron's visit was number 2, Hague's (!) was number 8 and Ed was around 17 (the positions change quite a lot). The Banksy mural being painted over was number 1. However Farage, who's been down a number of times, hasn't got a single mention on today's most read leaderboard - although the public meeting did get quite high at the end of last week it must still hurt that it's not still up there and the Hague article is. Assumption on the by-election from day 1 was that it was UKIP was ahead but that the Tories would have the machinery to make it a hard fight and even give Labour the chance to go through the middle. I agree that the perception of closeness changed after the polls - at least the second one - but still that's the point, go when you've still got a chance and don't wait for the momentum to catch u;. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 2, 2014 22:50:20 GMT
I suppose that shows I should have checked the website myself, rather than going off secondhand reports. I suppose repeat visits get you into diminishing returns territory pretty often.
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Post by right on Oct 2, 2014 23:00:02 GMT
I suppose that shows I should have checked the website myself, rather than going off secondhand reports. I suppose repeat visits get you into diminishing returns territory pretty often. Interesting that (I assume) Labour troops would assume that their leader is so un-noteworthy. That's not a criticism of Miliband per se as I've heard he's more charismatic in person (but I heard the same about Hague and IDS - although that wasn't hard to believe about Hague from his performances at PMQs). But it's looking like a bit of a morale problem. God help Labour footsoldiers if they start seeing the poll lead evaporate. But then that's reading more than is deserved into one stray comment. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 3, 2014 10:47:03 GMT
Yeah, I think the issue was that this was somebody searching for news on the Clacton by-election and for some reason not managing to find articles from the Gazette, rather than just checking the Gazette itself.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 3, 2014 22:03:52 GMT
Watching Newsnight. The reporter standing in what very much appears to be an unadopted road saying "none of the candidates are talking about fixing potholes like these".
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 3, 2014 22:15:03 GMT
That was a revealingly terrible section. The highlight was Allegra Stratton claiming that Jaywick is south of Clacton. I think she may have confused it with the North Sea.
And for Christ's sake, couldn't at least one journalist go somewhere other than Jaywick? It'd be nice if the media's consistent line on Clacton wasn't, "It's a bit grim, isn't it?", but even if they must keep ramming that point home there are other places they could go. Poverty tourism at its worst.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 3, 2014 22:25:54 GMT
That was a revealingly terrible section. The highlight was Allegra Stratton claiming that Jaywick is south of Clacton. I think she may have confused it with the North Sea. Yeah, like when people talk about going north of Whitby. That way gets your feet wet. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 4, 2014 1:18:03 GMT
I regularly hear people describe, say, Salcombe as south of Plymouth. They clearly have no idea.
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