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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 21:00:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 6:15:03 GMT
None of them seems like a Welsh nationalist.  I'm not sure I'm interested. |
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Post by marksenior on Dec 9, 2014 13:55:35 GMT
Keren Belcourt , Conservative councillor for Hythe East ward on Shepway DC has sadly died
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Post by listener on Dec 9, 2014 15:39:42 GMT
There is a very interesting situation in St. Albans.
Immediately before the 2013 elections, the Conservatives were in control of St. Albans Council with 29 seats (including 2 vacant seats) to a combined opposition of 29 (Lib Dem 19, Lab 8, Independent 1 and Green Party 1). The outgoing mayor was Conservative.
In the May 2014 elections, 5 seats changed hands, but some of the gains and losses netted off. The net result was that the Conservatives regained the 2 vacant seats, with Labour going up 2 and the Lib Dems coming down 2. So the make-up was again Conservative 29 seats, to a combined opposition of 29 (Lib Dem 17, Lab 10, Independent 1 and Green Party 1).
At the Annual Meeting, the Council re-appointed the Conservative administration and elected a Lib Dem mayor.
In September, one of the Conservatives (Steve Bowes-Phipps in Park Street ward) resigned over the decision to allow planning permission for the railfreight site at St. Albans and now sits as an Independent. The Green Party and Independent Councillors have formed a Group on the Council. Steve Bowes-Phipps is up for re-election next May.
Now two Conservative councillors have resigned in Marshalswick South, because they are PPCs in the forthcoming general election, one in the safe conservative seat of South Cambridgeshire, replacing Andrew Lansley; the other in the Conservative marginal of South Ribble in Lancashire. Neither seat is up for election in May 2015, so technically they are not covered by the six-month rule – but presumably the by-elections will be delayed until May.
The Conservatives are now running a minority council with 26 seats to 30 – Con 26, Lib Dem 17, Lab 10, Green and Independent Group 3 – and the casting vote is with a Lib Dem mayor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 17:45:34 GMT
Ha! What could we call a figure who embodied this theoretical marriage of the hard-right and far-left? Enoch Hatton? Sir Rhodes Nellist? Francois Mitterrand? I have previously stated that should my allowances somehow total more than the average wage I would not take a greater amount... Local or national average? Mean or median? Including or not including the self employed? If its a local mean not including self employment I think in Putney you would have to be council leader to need to pay anything back. |
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Post by marksenior on Dec 9, 2014 19:42:11 GMT
There is a very interesting situation in St. Albans. Immediately before the 2013 elections, the Conservatives were in control of St. Albans Council with 29 seats (including 2 vacant seats) to a combined opposition of 29 (Lib Dem 19, Lab 8, Independent 1 and Green Party 1). The outgoing mayor was Conservative. In the May 2014 elections, 5 seats changed hands, but some of the gains and losses netted off. The net result was that the Conservatives regained the 2 vacant seats, with Labour going up 2 and the Lib Dems coming down 2. So the make-up was again Conservative 29 seats, to a combined opposition of 29 (Lib Dem 17, Lab 10, Independent 1 and Green Party 1). At the Annual Meeting, the Council re-appointed the Conservative administration and elected a Lib Dem mayor. In September, one of the Conservatives (Steve Bowes-Phipps in Park Street ward) resigned over the decision to allow planning permission for the railfreight site at St. Albans and now sits as an Independent. The Green Party and Independent Councillors have formed a Group on the Council. Steve Bowes-Phipps is up for re-election next May. Now two Conservative councillors have resigned in Marshalswick South, because they are PPCs in the forthcoming general election, one in the safe conservative seat of South Cambridgeshire, replacing Andrew Lansley; the other in the Conservative marginal of South Ribble in Lancashire. Neither seat is up for election in May 2015, so technically they are not covered by the six-month rule – but presumably the by-elections will be delayed until May. The Conservatives are now running a minority council with 26 seats to 30 – Con 26, Lib Dem 17, Lab 10, Green and Independent Group 3 – and the casting vote is with a Lib Dem mayor. The council may hope that the by elections will be delayed until May but they will have to publish Notices Of Vacancy and hope that 2 electors do not call the by elections earlier . |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 9, 2014 20:34:57 GMT
I have previously stated that should my allowances somehow total more than the average wage I would not take a greater amount... Local or national average? Mean or median? Including or not including the self employed? If its a local mean not including self employment I think in Putney you would have to be council leader to need to pay anything back. My councillor's allowances would have had to have doubled to approach the median wage. A point I always made whenever somebody got on their high horse and demanded that "politicians should only be paid the average wage". Yes please! |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 9, 2014 20:56:08 GMT
Interesting Alderman election tomorrow in Bishopsgate ward in the City of London - not technically a byelection because the previous Alderman has gone out of office at his allotted time (and is not seeking re-election). There are four candidates, all standing as Independents: Havilland James De Sausmarez, head of the investment trust at Henderson Global Investors (who are major City property developers) Simon D'Olier Duckworth, current common councilman for the ward and very involved in the administration of the City Patricia Janet Scotland, Baroness Scotland of Asthal, barrister and Attorney-General for England and Wales 2007-10 Robert Adrian Joseph Waddingham, former senior partner of an actuarian company, and Sheriff of the City of London in 2013-14 Patricia Scotland elected. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 22:25:37 GMT
Local or national average? Mean or median? Including or not including the self employed? If its a local mean not including self employment I think in Putney you would have to be council leader to need to pay anything back. My councillor's allowances would have had to have doubled to approach the median wage. A point I always made whenever somebody got on their high horse and demanded that "politicians should only be paid the average wage". Yes please! Being a councillor is not a job and should not be paid. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 9, 2014 22:34:14 GMT
Being a councillor is not a job and should not be paid. Stupid boy. |
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Post by gmobserver1 on Dec 9, 2014 23:16:11 GMT
Allowances - The Horney Old Chestnut
So we are going back to the good old days of giving your time freely.
Payments started in 1970s for attendance for each meeting and various expenses e.g. phones. This was changed with the advent of allowances plus various additions such as IT and then in 2000 with the creation of one overall basic allowance.
No being councillor is not a job - it is a commitment with allowance to cover expenses. For most councillors on the metros, London boroughs, large district and county councils if this were a job then the hours put in per week would mean that they were paid below the minimum wage!
David Boothroyd is correct!
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Post by maxque on Dec 9, 2014 23:24:29 GMT
My councillor's allowances would have had to have doubled to approach the median wage. A point I always made whenever somebody got on their high horse and demanded that "politicians should only be paid the average wage". Yes please! Being a councillor is not a job and should not be paid. So, you support than only retired people and people living on inherited or husband money should be councillors? Given than some meetings are usually in the day, you can't work full time (or else you're among the councillors sitting on no committee and being mostly useless). |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 10, 2014 0:06:27 GMT
Allowances - The Horney Old ChestnutI think you mean hoary old chestnut.... |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 10, 2014 0:08:43 GMT
Manningtree, Mistley, Little Bentley and Tendring. Characters in a Poirot short story. I think Manningtree did it.... No, no dok Inspector Manningtree is the hopeless local plod who has to be shown the way by Poirot. My money is on Martha Mistley owner of the village shop. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 0:39:20 GMT
Interesting Alderman election tomorrow in Bishopsgate ward in the City of London - not technically a byelection because the previous Alderman has gone out of office at his allotted time (and is not seeking re-election). There are four candidates, all standing as Independents: Havilland James De Sausmarez, head of the investment trust at Henderson Global Investors (who are major City property developers) Simon D'Olier Duckworth, current common councilman for the ward and very involved in the administration of the City Patricia Janet Scotland, Baroness Scotland of Asthal, barrister and Attorney-General for England and Wales 2007-10 Robert Adrian Joseph Waddingham, former senior partner of an actuarian company, and Sheriff of the City of London in 2013-14 Patricia Scotland elected. Labour gain........ |
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Post by john07 on Dec 10, 2014 1:30:57 GMT
Patricia Scotland elected. Labour gain........ Alex Salmond might try and claim it! |
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Post by froome on Dec 10, 2014 7:28:58 GMT
Characters in a Poirot short story. I think Manningtree did it.... No, no dok Inspector Manningtree is the hopeless local plod who has to be shown the way by Poirot. My money is on Martha Mistley owner of the village shop. Bring in Inspector Harwich of the Yard. With his little dog Tendring of course. |
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Post by marksenior on Dec 10, 2014 12:52:09 GMT
Carole Ellis , Conservative councillor for Great Barford ward on Bedford UA has sadly died
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 10, 2014 14:45:02 GMT
No, no dok Inspector Manningtree is the hopeless local plod who has to be shown the way by Poirot. My money is on Martha Mistley owner of the village shop. Bring in Inspector Harwich of the Yard. With his little dog Tendring of course. Ah! What of the sinister Dr. Parkestone? I think he may be the key to the solution. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 10, 2014 21:58:37 GMT
There is a very interesting situation in St. Albans. Immediately before the 2013 elections, the Conservatives were in control of St. Albans Council with 29 seats (including 2 vacant seats) to a combined opposition of 29 (Lib Dem 19, Lab 8, Independent 1 and Green Party 1). The outgoing mayor was Conservative. In the May 2014 elections, 5 seats changed hands, but some of the gains and losses netted off. The net result was that the Conservatives regained the 2 vacant seats, with Labour going up 2 and the Lib Dems coming down 2. So the make-up was again Conservative 29 seats, to a combined opposition of 29 (Lib Dem 17, Lab 10, Independent 1 and Green Party 1). At the Annual Meeting, the Council re-appointed the Conservative administration and elected a Lib Dem mayor. In September, one of the Conservatives (Steve Bowes-Phipps in Park Street ward) resigned over the decision to allow planning permission for the railfreight site at St. Albans and now sits as an Independent. The Green Party and Independent Councillors have formed a Group on the Council. Steve Bowes-Phipps is up for re-election next May. Now two Conservative councillors have resigned in Marshalswick South, because they are PPCs in the forthcoming general election, one in the safe conservative seat of South Cambridgeshire, replacing Andrew Lansley; the other in the Conservative marginal of South Ribble in Lancashire. Neither seat is up for election in May 2015, so technically they are not covered by the six-month rule – but presumably the by-elections will be delayed until May. The Conservatives are now running a minority council with 26 seats to 30 – Con 26, Lib Dem 17, Lab 10, Green and Independent Group 3 – and the casting vote is with a Lib Dem mayor. The council may hope that the by elections will be delayed until May but they will have to publish Notices Of Vacancy and hope that 2 electors do not call the by elections earlier . The byelection has been called for 29th January |
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