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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 22:24:04 GMT
Averaging all the polls since the start of the year we get: Lab 31%, UKIP 25%, Con 24%, Lib Dem 9%, Green 5%, Others 4%, SNP 1%, BNP 0.5%, Plaid 0.34% which gives us the following tallies: Conservatives win 153 local area counts (-119 on 2009) winning 19 MEP's (-6) Labour win 143 local areas (+84 on 2009) winning 28 MEP's (+15) Liberal Democrats win 2 local areas (-9 on 2009) winning 3 MEP's (-8) United Kingdom Independence Party win 63 local areas (+54 on 2009) winning 18 MEP's (+5) Plaid Cymru win 4 local areas (unchanged on 2009) winning 0 MEP's (-1) Scottish National Party win 15 local areas (-7 on 2009) winning 1 MEP (-1) Greens win 0 local areas (-3 on 2009) winning 0 MEP's (-2) British National Party win 0 local areas (unchanged on 2009) winning 0 MEP's (-2) Mibbe best adjust the SNP score based upon the two EU polls conducted this year in Scotland? (Low to high forties - which is ~3% at least)
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Post by Devonian on Apr 5, 2014 19:40:39 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Apr 5, 2014 21:10:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 22:06:02 GMT
Disastrous pair of 3%ers for the Greens
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 5, 2014 22:41:04 GMT
Disastrous pair of 3%ers for the Greens I had thought the Greens might be able to beat the LDs but if these polls are right there's not much chance of it happening.
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Post by Devonian on Apr 6, 2014 8:31:13 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Apr 8, 2014 15:30:08 GMT
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Post by Pimpernal on Apr 9, 2014 7:09:22 GMT
FFS - before they fiddled with the figures, UKIP were way ahead of the Cons and just behind Lab! Unweighted - Con 315 Lab 435 UKIP 408 Weighted Con 338 Lab 424 UKIP 309!
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Post by Richard Allen on Apr 9, 2014 11:29:12 GMT
FFS - before they fiddled with the figures, UKIP were way ahead of the Cons and just behind Lab! Unweighted - Con 315 Lab 435 UKIP 408 Weighted Con 338 Lab 424 UKIP 309! I really do wish people would stop complaining about figures being weighted as if it is some kind of conspiracy. Without weighting, or some other method of ensuring a balanced sample, a poll is completely worthless.
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 9, 2014 11:36:59 GMT
True as far as it goes.
But it is also fair to point out the more a poll is "weighted", the less reliable it probably is?
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Post by Richard Allen on Apr 9, 2014 12:30:29 GMT
I really do wish people would stop complaining about figures being weighted as if it is some kind of conspiracy. Without weighting, or some other method of ensuring a balanced sample, a poll is completely worthless. I imagine that during the next general election a cottage industry of 'poll unskewing' will develop on whichever side is behind in the polls. Another unwelcome import from the United States.
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Post by marksenior on Apr 9, 2014 13:55:05 GMT
TNS BMRB Euro poll Lab 30 UKIP 29 Con 21 LD 9
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 10, 2014 10:25:03 GMT
Isn't it about time they published a Westminster VI poll again? The last was in November, IIRC.....
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Post by Devonian on Apr 14, 2014 17:24:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 10:50:24 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lib Dems down at 6, especially after Clegg's car crash debates.
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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Apr 15, 2014 11:01:34 GMT
Do ICM not release cross-breaks? Would be interested in regional breakdown, for obvious reasons.
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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Apr 15, 2014 13:53:49 GMT
I do realise that, but they are often interesting anyway. The regions do tend to give roughly the figures you would imagine relative to each other on YouGov. The last one I saw had a sample size of 460, which is reasonable enough, even given the lack of accounting for other biases within the regional samples.
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Post by Devonian on Apr 19, 2014 19:27:25 GMT
ICM poll for the Sunday Telegraph
Labour 30% UKIP 27% Conservative 22% Lib Dem 8%
The rest of figures not available yet
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Post by Richard Allen on Apr 19, 2014 20:00:02 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lib Dems down at 6, especially after Clegg's car crash debates. I'm not too sure that it will make a lot of difference in the end. I wonder what the bookies are offering on the LibDems getting no MEPs? It would seem to be a real possibility. Sorry tricky. I don't see any scenario where they don't get at least one MEP in both the SE and the SW.
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Post by marksenior on Apr 19, 2014 20:34:08 GMT
It appears that the ICM/Sun Tel poll is an online poll whereas the ICM/Guardian poll was a telephone poll . It demonstrates again that there are big differences in the 2 methods of polling .
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