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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 29, 2014 21:04:06 GMT
Wow- a strong FN showing even in the anti-clerical strongholds in Brittany (even allowing for the Le Pen connection) and La Rochelle and district. And Nord Pas-de-Calais, for all of the talk of Henin-Beaumont, surprises me. The last time I spent a prolonged period in Lille, Roubaix and Tourcoing, during the 2012 legislatives, there was very little sign of the FN other than when I did go to Henin, Lievin and other small places round there. Lille in particular had lots of clear FdG activity. And yet unless Lille, Roubaix and Tourcoing voted for the FN in large numbers, I doubt N-PdC could have been carried. The results for N-PdC were FN 35.15% UMP 16.44% PS 11.63% MoDem 10.15% FdG 7.20% EE-LV 6.8% elections.interieur.gouv.fr/ER2014/01/031/031.htmlThat's astonishing. The PS has been surprisingly resilient even through the "Rose Mafia" scandals. For it now to be narrowly ahead of the MoDem is a pathetic result. |
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Post by Sibboleth on May 29, 2014 21:07:44 GMT
Lille city: FN 18.9, PS 18.2, EELV 16.3, UMP 14.6, UDI-MoDem 10.9
Roubaix: FN 26.1, UMP 17.3, PS 14.1, EELV 10.6, UDI-MoDem 10.3
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Post by Sibboleth on May 29, 2014 21:20:08 GMT
That's astonishing. The PS has been surprisingly resilient even through the "Rose Mafia" scandals. For it now to be narrowly ahead of the MoDem is a pathetic result. Well, nationally they did even worse than the 1994 Euros when Mitterrand backed the MRG rather than his own party. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 21:36:31 GMT
I'm rather surprised that the Greens polled 41% in French Guiana. Was it largely a personal vote for one of the candidates, or is there some other reason that I should know about?
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Post by maxque on May 30, 2014 0:41:06 GMT
I'm rather surprised that the Greens polled 41% in French Guiana. Was it largely a personal vote for one of the candidates, or is there some other reason that I should know about? The first Green candidate (for the Atlantic sub-region) was from Guyana, while the other lists had candidates from elsewhere. The "Outre-Mer" has a special system. It elects 3 MEP using PR-Hondt, like UK, but there must be a winner from every section (Pacific, Indian and Atlantic), because in 2004, all three winning candidates were from Réunion. |
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Post by Devonian on May 30, 2014 16:51:02 GMT
Map of winning party by Commune  Grey - FN Dark Blue - UMP Light Blue - UDI-MoDem Green - EE-LV Pink - PS Red - ND Yellow - Régions et peuples solidaires Purple - DLR |
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Post by Devonian on May 31, 2014 18:01:39 GMT
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Post by Devonian on May 31, 2014 18:06:34 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on May 31, 2014 20:01:04 GMT
Many thanks for these results and maps Devonian. What a devastating nationwide result? The areas I know very well in Nord, Alsace-Lorraine and Provence have done as I expected. I shall be in the north early next month on my way to Italy......and look forward to cracking a few bottles over this.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 21:33:53 GMT
Many thanks for these results and maps Devonian. What a devastating nationwide result? The areas I know very well in Nord, Alsace-Lorraine and Provence have done as I expected. I shall be in the north early next month on my way to Italy......and look forward to cracking a few bottles over this. They are out and out racists. Your party leadership has said as much. This result is a travesty. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 21:51:46 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 1, 2014 9:26:05 GMT
Many thanks for these results and maps Devonian. What a devastating nationwide result? The areas I know very well in Nord, Alsace-Lorraine and Provence have done as I expected. I shall be in the north early next month on my way to Italy......and look forward to cracking a few bottles over this. They are out and out racists. Your party leadership has said as much. Actually they haven't said that. When Le Pen suggested that the FN could link up with UKIP this was the response www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27071002This what Farage said when speaking to a DLR rally in the election www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-eu-27026805Notice that both statements are personally complimentary to Marine Le Pen. She is "making efforts at modernisation" and is "achieving remarkable things". She "has good qualities". Notice that in neither the UKIP statement not the Farage comment is the word 'racist' used. Notice that neither statement accuses the party as a whole of being prejudiced or anti-Semitic. What it says is that the FN has within it anti-semitic baggage that is has been unable to rid itself of. That is not quite the same thing. One thing I've noticed with politicians and with Farage in particular is that it often pays to pay close attention to the exact words that they use. Often people here what someone says but don't listen closely. They just hear the 'gist' of what was said and assume that that is the meaning. However there can sometimes be a short (or perhaps not so short) distance between what it 'sounds like' someone said and the exact meaning of their statement. Watch out for this when hearing or reading statements by politicians like Farage because this distance is often deliberate. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 1, 2014 12:05:45 GMT
Many thanks for these results and maps Devonian. What a devastating nationwide result? The areas I know very well in Nord, Alsace-Lorraine and Provence have done as I expected. I shall be in the north early next month on my way to Italy......and look forward to cracking a few bottles over this. They are out and out racists. Your party leadership has said as much. This result is a travesty. I am disappointed in that knee-jerk reaction from you Joe. Read the sensible analysis by Devonian and consider the wilder nonsense of the far left and the impractical stupidity of the Hollande faction that has led to London being virtually France's second city. Consider the uniform colour of those maps. Do you condemn that part of the French public who made the FN the lead party on this occasion? Do you think that a Frog version of the BNP could have pulled that off? It is a crude and shallow reading of contemporary French politics to reach out for simple abuse. It is far more complex and interesting a position than you appreciate. You are behaving like some Conservatives did over Labour when they were riddled with communists and other entryists, in a few places, but as a proportion of the whole were insignificant......yet Labour was tarnished and abused for that minority that they were hell bent on excluding and weeding out. Also look up travesty! |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 1, 2014 13:15:39 GMT
This is the first time I'd heard of the Regions et peuples solidaires list. I had heard of the constituent parties.
Interesting that their vote was mainly from Corsica and mid-Brittany. Alsace clearly prefers hard right and Gaullist politics to regionalism. Occitan and Catalan nationalism in France continue to go absolutely nowhere.
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Post by Devonian on Jun 2, 2014 19:05:45 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 2, 2014 19:08:35 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 2, 2014 19:09:55 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Jun 2, 2014 19:11:10 GMT
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 2, 2014 21:12:59 GMT
2014 Results: | FN | 25.0% | +18.7% | 24 seats | +21 | EAF | | UMP | 20.3% | -7.6% | 20 seats | -10 | EPP | | PS | 14.7% | -1.8% | 13 seats | -1 | S&D | | MoDem | 10.0% | +1.5% | 7 seats | +1 | ALDE | | EELV | 8.7% | -7.6% | 6 seats | -9 | EGP | | FdG | 6.6% | +0.1% | 4 seats | -1 | EUL-NGL |
The final seat was lost by the EFD aligned Mouvement pour la France. A Stunning result for FN, PS fell back from their low point. Reversion to norm for the Greens after freakishly good results in 2009 (their figures this year are a bit up on 2004 and same number of seats). MoDem make some recovery but fail to get near 2004 levels and the FdG advance appears to have stalled. |
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Post by Devonian on Jun 9, 2014 23:27:19 GMT
Election night coverage in France
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