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Post by The Bishop on Oct 11, 2013 12:37:14 GMT
I hear that Farage actually paid a visit, so UKIP were evidently taking it seriously......
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Post by linders on Oct 11, 2013 12:39:29 GMT
He did. I believe he also told one of the fringe meetings he attended that they were going to win.
(Incidentally, "fringe" meeting seems a very apt description of an event with Nigel Farage)
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 11, 2013 12:42:41 GMT
I believe he also told one of the fringe meetings he attended that they were going to win Whoops  |
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 11, 2013 12:55:24 GMT
Thats pretty emphatic - presumably some kind of personal vote for the candidate at play here? I would guess so. I would also guess that the previous LD figure included a fair size personal vote for Catriona Bhatia, so not that surprising their vote is down. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 11, 2013 15:07:46 GMT
Odd isn't it that we have article after article pontificated why the Tories and by association the Liberal Democrats are struggling in the north and then you have comments like "says a lot about Glasgow". Until the parties understand the causes of poverty and don't go for the simple option keep writing them. Glasgow is in the south from my point of view. Me too. Deep south. |
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Post by Richard Cromwell on Oct 11, 2013 15:11:29 GMT
Tracey Cheetham @tchee Delighted that Caroline Makinson has been elected Labour Cllr for Royston Ward, Barnsley. Lab 1143, UKIP 393, Tory 100, BNP 28, Eng Dem 32 English Democrats beat BNP by four votes. Cromwell isn't going to be happy... I don't think either of them should be happy with that... |
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Post by andrea on Oct 11, 2013 15:29:31 GMT
Full result in Glasgow. www.glasgow.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=10776Transfers...updating.. SDA eliminated: 1 to SNP Britannica eliminated: 3 to UKIP, 3 to No Bedroom Tax, 1 to Christians, 1 to Green, 1 to Solidarity, 1 to LD, 1 to Lab, 1 to Con, 1 to SNP 6 Non Transferable Solidarity eliminated: 6 to No Bedroom Tax, 5 to SNP, 3 to Green, 2 to Lab, 2 to Communists, 2 to Ind L, 1 to Christians, 1 to LD 7 Non transferable Communist eliminated: 11 to No Bedroom Tax, 9 to Greens,4 to Lab, 4 to SNP, 3 to Christians, 1 to LD, 1 to Ind R 4 No transferable Ind Rannachan eliminated: 14 to SNP, 13 to No Bedroom Tax, 13 to Lab, 4 to Greens,2 to Con 1 to Ind L 6 Non transferable Christians eliminated: 11 to Con, 8 to Ind L, 7 to SNP, 7 to Lab, 4 No Bedroom Tax, 3 to LD, 3 to UKIP, 2 to Greens 20 Non transferable LD eliminated: 26 to Lab, 11 to Greens, 10 to SNP, 8 to Con, 4 to No Bedroom Tax, 4 to Ind L, 1 to UKIP 15 non transferable Ind Laird eliminated: 29 to Lab, 19 to SNP, 16 to No Bedroom Tax, 8 to Greens, 6 to Con, 6 to UKIP. 34 non transferables UKIP eliminated: 26 to Con, 14 to No Bedroom Tax, 12 to Lab, 12 to SNP, 8 to Greens 54 non transferable Greens eliminated: 44 to SNP, 31 to Lab, 24 to No Bedroom Tax, 6 to Con 53 non transferable Con eliminated: 36 to Lab, 34 to SNP, 23 to No Bedroom Tax 182 non transferable No Bedroom Tax eliminated: 201 to Lab, 103 to SNP 260 non transferable |
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Post by David Ashforth on Oct 11, 2013 16:35:52 GMT
There was a Liberal Party member called Catherine Twelvetrees - I always thought she should stand for Sevenoaks. That would have been the best campaign slogan since "Hooley for Heeley". "Allan for Hallam" "Clayton for Beighton" (a ward in Sheffield) |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 11, 2013 20:11:09 GMT
Generally a very nice set of results for us - shame about N Yorks, but maybe the Labour candidate's injudicious tweeting didn't help him there  When will people ever learn?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 20:34:50 GMT
Con eliminated:
23 to No Bedroom Tax
Ooookay then.
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 11, 2013 20:41:20 GMT
Con eliminated: 23 to No Bedroom Tax Ooookay then. In all probablity not all (or even most) of those voted Conservative first preference, but any studying of STV results in Scotland shows that transfers go anywhere and everywhere. |
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Post by Philip Davies on Oct 11, 2013 20:41:25 GMT
Con eliminated: 23 to No Bedroom Tax Ooookay then. Won't some of those be votes that transfered to the Tory from another candidate in an earlier transfer? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 11, 2013 20:52:04 GMT
If only they'd called themselves "No spare room subsidy abolition" they'd have got all the Tory votes.
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Post by middleenglander on Oct 11, 2013 23:15:53 GMT
Barnsley, Royston - Labour hold | Party | 2013 votes | 2013 share | since 2012 | since 2011 | since 2010 | since 2008 | | Labour | 1,143 | 67.4% | 0.0% | +7.9% | +21.3% | +20.5% | | UKIP | 393 | 23.2% | +9.4% | +6.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 100 | 5.9% | +0.9% | -3.3% | -6.4% | -4.4% | | English Democrats | 32 | 1.9% | -1.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | BNP | 28 | 1.7% | from nowhere | -2.6% | -10.3% | -13.6% | | Independent |
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| -5.8% | -7.6% | | Total votes | 1,696 |
| -637 | -943 | -3,023 | -869 |
Swing Labour to UKIP 4.7% since 2012 but ~1% UKIP to Labour since 2011; otherwise not meaningful Glasgow, Govan - Labour hold | Party | 2013 votes | 2013 share | since 2012 | since 2007 | | Labour | 2,055 | 43.4% | +11.2% | -4.9% | | SNP | 1,424 | 30.1% | -2.6%
| +1.9% | | John Flanagan * | 446 | 9.4% | +0.1% | from nowhere | | Conservative | 215 | 4.5% | +1.4% | -0.2% | | UKIP | 113 | 2.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green | 112 | 2.4% | -0.9% | -1.5% | | Independent | 103 | 2.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Lib Dem | 73 | 1.5% | +0.3% | -2.6% | | Christian | 60 | 1.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent | 52 | 1.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Communist | 35 | 0.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Solidarity | 28 | 0.6% | -0.3% | -3.6% | | Britannica | 19 | 0.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Democrat Alliance | 1 | 0.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Glasgow First |
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* contested by-election as No Bedroom Tax, 2012 with no description and 2007 as Labour Swing SNP to Labour ~7% since 2012 but Labour to SNP ~3½% since 2007 Manchester, Ancoats & Clayton - Labour hold | Party | 2013 votes | 2013 share | since 2012 | since 2011 | since 2010 | since 2008 | | Labour | 1,239 | 70.5% | -3.8% | -1.2% | +15.7% | +10.8% | | UKIP | 166 | 9.4% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green | 89 | 5.1% | -3.5% | -6.9% | -2.7% | -4.4% | | Conservative | 82 | 4.7% | -2.2% | -4.4% | -8.4% | -9.3% | | Pirate | 79 | 4.5% | +1.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | BNP | 58 | 3.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Lib Dem | 44 | 2.5% | -1.5% | -4.7% | -21.9% | -14.4% | | TUSAC |
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Swing not meaningful North Yorkshire, Selby South - Conservative hold | Party | 2013 B votes | 2013 B share | since 2013 | since 2009 | since 2005 | | Conservative | 592 | 37.0% | -3.2% | -34.2% | -16.0% | | Labour | 525 | 32.8% | -1.6% | +4.0% | -14.2% | | UKIP | 282 | 17.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent | 201 | 12.6% | -5.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green |
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Swing Conservative to Labour ~0.8% since May 2013 election and also since 2005 but some 15% since 2009
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Post by middleenglander on Oct 11, 2013 23:16:57 GMT
Salford, Weaste & Seedley - Labour hold | Party | 2013 B2 votes | 2013 B2 share | since 2013 B1 | since 2012 | since 2011 | since 2010 | since 2008 | | Labour | 803 | 53.1% | +8.7% | -1.6% | +5.3% | +10.7% | +25.2% | | UKIP | 280 | 18.5% | -4.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Conservative | 240 | 15.9% | +1.2% | +3.2% | +2.3% | -5.3% | -3.7% | | Independent | 96 | 6.4% | +2.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Green | 42 | 2.8% | -1.7% | from nowhere | -5.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | BNP | 29 | 1.9% | -2.3% | -6.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | TUSAC | 21 | 1.4% | -0.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Lib Dem |
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Swing UKIP to Labour 6½% since June 2013 by-election otherwise not particularly meaningful Scottish Borders, Tweeddale West - Conservative hold | Party | 2013 votes | 2013 share | since 2012 | since 2007 | | Conservative | 1,155 | 42.7% | +18.0% | +19.8% | | Lib Dem | 677 | 25.0% | -9.9% | -0.2% | | SNP | 359 | 13.3% | -8.5% | -3.1% | | Borders | 228 | 8.4% | -0.9% | from nowhere | | Labour | 203 | 7.5% | -1.9% | 0.0% | | UKIP | 43 | 1.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent | 43 | 1.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | | Independent 2 |
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Swing Conservative to Labour ~14% since 2011, 9% since 2010 and 24% since 2007
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Post by AdminSTB on Oct 11, 2013 23:35:47 GMT
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Post by erlend on Oct 11, 2013 23:53:46 GMT
Glasgow is in the south from my point of view. Me too. Deep south. When I was at home in Orkney I happily described Fraser's part of the World as the South. I would slightly tongue in cheek note that Carlton's patch is south of Sutherland. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 12, 2013 0:32:31 GMT
When I was at home in Orkney I happily described Fraser's part of the World as the South. I would slightly tongue in cheek note that Carlton's patch is south of Sutherland. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!......Bad hair day! It is, but I didn't know Fraser was there until now. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 12, 2013 9:10:54 GMT
That would have been the best campaign slogan since "Hooley for Heeley". "Allan for Hallam" "Clayton for Beighton" (a ward in Sheffield) As recently as 2010, Buchan for [Banff &] Buchan. |
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 12, 2013 9:31:58 GMT
For a bit of fun, I went through the full preference information for the Govan by-election and came up with the following table of first and second preferences: | 1st / 2nd | Britannica | Communist | Christian | Green | Solidarity | No Bed Tax | Lib Dem | Labour | Laird | UKIP | Rannachan | Conservative | Scot Dem All | SNP | None | Total | | Britannica |
| 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 19 | | Communist | 0 |
| 2 | 9 | 3 | 11 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 35 | | Christian | 1 | 0 |
| 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 11 | 0 | 7 | 18 | 60 | | Green | 0 | 10 | 0 |
| 5 | 12 | 13 | 17 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 11 | 112 | | Solidarity | 0 | 2 | 1 | 3 |
| 6 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 | 28 | | No Bed Tax | 3 | 5 | 4 | 6 | 9 |
| 4 | 157 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 6 | 0 | 66 | 163 | 446 | | Lib Dem | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 1 | 2 |
| 23 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 1 | 10 | 13 | 73 | | Labour | 7 | 13 | 24 | 80 | 19 | 335 | 52 |
| 50 | 72 | 30 | 87 | 7 | 318 | 961 | 2055 | | Laird | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 15 | 0 | 20 |
| 4 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 17 | 25 | 103 | | UKIP | 10 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 8 | 4 | 12 | 4 |
| 3 | 18 | 0 | 11 | 32 | 113 | | Rannachan | 0 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 0 | 12 | 1 | 0 |
| 2 | 0 | 12 | 5 | 52 | | Conservative | 2 | 0 | 9 | 13 | 0 | 12 | 21 | 21 | 7 | 24 | 2 |
| 1 | 20 | 83 | 215 | | Scot Dem All | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 1 | 0 | 1 | | SNP | 1 | 22 | 20 | 198 | 41 | 131 | 31 | 293 | 40 | 42 | 16 | 38 | 7 |
| 544 | 1424 | | TOTAL | 24 | 55 | 69 | 330 | 90 | 550 | 129 | 568 | 130 | 156 | 68 | 177 | 16 | 504 | 1870 | 4736 |
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