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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 13, 2017 11:11:14 GMT
There is a vacancy in the peers elected by the whole House following the death of Lord Lyell on Tuesday. Charles Lyell, 3rd Baron Lyell became a member of the House of Lords on his 21st birthday in 1960, taking his seat in 1961 and was elected in 1999. He was a whip and junior minister in the 1980s and later a deputy speaker. Lyell succeeded to the title aged four in 1943 when his father was killed in action in Tunisia. The peerage, created in 1914, and baronetcy, created in 1894, are now extinct. By-election next week. Candidates and their statements are listed here: www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2017/Arrangments-by-election-01-03-17.pdf Ladbrooks have odds available should anyone fancy a flutter. |
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 20:54:41 GMT
The Earl of Cork and Orrery has been elected to the House of Lords to fill the vacancy for a Crossbench peer. See, as a Cork man I should have a say in this. The Boyles are a bunch of gobshites, gombeens and cod-politicos. A proper Irish byelection would have brought this out. Cork. Explains it. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 20:58:58 GMT
See, as a Cork man I should have a say in this. The Boyles are a bunch of gobshites, gombeens and cod-politicos. A proper Irish byelection would have brought this out. Cork. Explains it. Is this something you have been bottling up? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 21:42:34 GMT
Is this something you have been bottling up? Ha ha, I forgot about this. |
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 22:04:25 GMT
Is this something you have been bottling up? Can't top that |
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Post by An Sionnach Flannbhuí on Mar 15, 2017 22:09:30 GMT
Is this something you have been bottling up? A starter for ten. Is the election of an obscure nobody by a closed shop of hereditary types and a party machine better or worse when it's a) a hereditary peer being elected to the House of Lords; or b) a failed Dail candidate getting elected by an "independent" panel to the Seanad? Tough one! |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 22:39:19 GMT
Is this something you have been bottling up? A starter for ten. Is the election of an obscure nobody by a closed shop of hereditary types and a party machine better or worse when it's a) a hereditary peer being elected to the House of Lords; or b) a failed Dail candidate getting elected by an "independent" panel to the Seanad? Tough one! What's the difference between a duck? one of its legs...... |
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Post by robert1 on Mar 21, 2017 13:36:15 GMT
I've just voted for the odd earl etc.  |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 23, 2017 16:13:44 GMT
There is a vacancy in the peers elected by the whole House following the death of Lord Lyell on Tuesday. Charles Lyell, 3rd Baron Lyell became a member of the House of Lords on his 21st birthday in 1960, taking his seat in 1961 and was elected in 1999. He was a whip and junior minister in the 1980s and later a deputy speaker. Lyell succeeded to the title aged four in 1943 when his father was killed in action in Tunisia. The peerage, created in 1914, and baronetcy, created in 1894, are now extinct. By-election next week. Candidates and their statements are listed here: www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2017/Arrangments-by-election-01-03-17.pdf Ladbrooks have odds available should anyone fancy a flutter. For those of you unable to contain your excitement, I'm afraid the result has been delayed until Monday. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 27, 2017 14:11:26 GMT
Lord Colgrain has been announced as the winner.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 19, 2017 14:52:12 GMT
Lord Vaux of Harrowden wins the latest byelection (among the Crossbenchers' group) in a landslide: www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2017/Hereditary-peers-by-election-result-(Walpole).pdfVaux of Harrowden, L. 16 Aldington, L. 4 Mostyn, L. 4 Darling, L. 1 Hemphill, L. 1 Powerscourt, V. (L. Powerscourt) 1 Cadman, L. 0 Hayter, L. 0 Somerleyton, L. 0 Hill, V. Withdrew |
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Post by nick10 on Jun 18, 2018 13:48:58 GMT
The next House of Lords by-election is for the seat vacated by Earl Baldwin of Bewdley, who was elected by the Crossbench peers. The result is due to be announced on 4 July. There are 19 candidates and an electorate of 31 peers. The candidates and their statements are here: www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2018/Arrangements-by-election-15-06-18.pdf Former members standing to rejoin the House include the Earl of Albemarle (member 1986-99), the Earl of Effingham (member 1996-99), Lord Hankey (member 1996-99), Viscount Hood (member for one month before the 1999 reforms) and Lord Meston (member 1984-99). Candidates of particular note include the Lord Bridges (the Queen's solicitor), the Earl of Carnarvon (owner of Highclere Castle, aka Downton Abbey) and the Earl of Snowdon (the Queen's nephew, and the only candidate not to submit a written statement). The youngest candidate is the 24-year-old Lord Glenconner. Four other candidates are relatively young: Lord Mostyn and Lord Ravensdale are in their 30s and the Duke of Hamilton & Brandon and the Earl of Devon are in their early 40s. There is another by-election in process, with the result due on 18 July, for a seat on the Conservative benches following the retirement of Lord Glentoran. The candidates list will be announced on 29 June. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 18, 2018 20:21:06 GMT
Snowdon's father was one of the last four hereditary peers of the first creation to sit in the Lords (and the very last to leave/die). When the hereditaries were mostly chucked out it was agreed to offer life peerages to all first creation hereditaries, all former Leaders of the Lords and members of the Royal Family (who declined).
Whereas the other three were uncontroversial cases of very long lived ministers (Lord Aldington and Lord Erroll of Hale were ministers in the 1950s Conservative government; Lord Pakenham, who had also inherited the Longford earldom, was a minister in the Attlee government and led the Lords in the first four years of the Wilson government) who had received the standard peerages back in the day, the first Lord Snowdon had only got his peerage(s) because of marriage into the Royal Family and there was a general view he should have joined the Royal Dukes and declined the offer. We'll see if that view holds against the son or carries much weight on the crossbenches.
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Post by tonygreaves on Jun 18, 2018 20:33:05 GMT
I hadn't picked up that Robin Glentoran was retiring. An interesting man, a winter Olympic gold medallist among other things. He was a Tory whip in my early days in the Lords and I "worked" with him on one or two things as you do - he once wrote a letter to the local weekly paper in Pendle (the Nelson Leader/Colne Times) criticising something I had said or written! (At the behest of the local Tories). There is a serious lobby to abolish hereditary by-elections as part of reducing the size of the House (and getting rid of the embarrassment of them) but it needs primary legislation and the Government will not agree to it.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 18, 2018 20:42:12 GMT
He may have officially been a member, but he doesn't seem to have ever spoken or voted post 1999 (and only attended very rarely before that).
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 18, 2018 21:11:38 GMT
There is a serious lobby to abolish hereditary by-elections as part of reducing the size of the House (and getting rid of the embarrassment of them) but it needs primary legislation and the Government will not agree to it. So you'd get rid of the most transparent part of the Lords entry process (and yes, I know that's not saying much) and increase the power of patronage? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 22:54:43 GMT
I've just voted for the odd earl etc. Out of touch aristo! |
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Post by uhurasmazda on Jun 19, 2018 1:32:29 GMT
Lord Wigram claims to have served as RO for Hong Kong Island in the EEC referendum - did UK crown colonies get to vote in that one, or was Wigram just in charge of some sort of absentee polling booth?
I am of course quite interested in Wigram - he was born in NZ. A cousin of his was the father of NZ aviation and gave his name to the Wigram Aerodrome, formerly the HQ of the NZAF and now a rather good aviation museum. The suburb that sprang up around the aerodrome also bears the Wigram name, and is reasonably working-class - to the extent that it was represented by dissident left-wing MP Jim Anderton until 2011. I somehow doubt whether the Lords Wigram have traditionally been of one political mind with their people!
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 19, 2018 2:29:34 GMT
He may have officially been a member, but he doesn't seem to have ever spoken or voted post 1999 (and only attended very rarely before that). I assume as a frontbencher from 2004-2010 he was a reasonably regular attender and contributor. His voting record up to Dissolution in 2015 was 46%, in line with the average for the House per PublicWhip. I suspect his retirement may be health related, during the bobsleigh events at this year’s Winter Olympics the BBC interviewed him (presumably at home) about the Gold Medal win at Innsbruck, and although sharp of mind, there was an oxygen cylinder behind his armchair. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 19, 2018 6:48:59 GMT
I suspect a little bit of confusion creeping in here as various peers (or ex-peers) are being discussed and posts have overlapped.I think GKR was talking about Snowdon and Tim about Glentoran and there is therefore no meeting of minds!
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