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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 18, 2021 15:02:05 GMT
Whichever journalist wrote that article is obviously the most catastrophically insane hallucinatory nincompoop that has ever existed. If he or she had bothered to do any research into the matter, he or she would have noticed that it is physically impossible for the 90-year-old former curate of St George’s Church in Beckenham, Kent to be elected to fill the vacancy, because there is no such place. He may be the curate of St George’s Church, Beckenham, in which case he is not the former curate of any church in Kent; or he could be the former curate of St George’s Church in Kent, in which case he is not the former curate of St George’s Church, Beckenham, but he cannot be the curate of a church in a place which does not exist. Maybe he was curate (he is 90, after all) before local government re-organisation when Beckenham was in Kent? Yep, according to the article he was in Beckenham immediately after Ordination in 1957, and it only ceased being part of Kent in 1965. Incidentally he finished bottom of the poll with six votes and was eliminated in the first round. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 20:26:24 GMT
Any idea why they picked this child? I can’t find any details of his career or education. EDIT: Found his candidature statement. Harlech, L.Having lived and worked in North Wales and London, I feel that I have a balanced view of rural and urban matters. I have the capacity and drive to be a regular serving member of the House, if elected. Areas of interest: Heritage, farming, housing, rural affairs, culture, media and sport. Serving committee member: CLA Cymru, Historic Homes Wales. Education: Eton College, Central Saint Martins Army Reservist: The London Regiment (attested Jan 2019) He's 35, ffs. That's almost certainly closer than the median age of HoL members to the median age of UK adults. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 18, 2021 20:29:41 GMT
Any idea why they picked this child? I can’t find any details of his career or education. EDIT: Found his candidature statement. Harlech, L.Having lived and worked in North Wales and London, I feel that I have a balanced view of rural and urban matters. I have the capacity and drive to be a regular serving member of the House, if elected. Areas of interest: Heritage, farming, housing, rural affairs, culture, media and sport. Serving committee member: CLA Cymru, Historic Homes Wales. Education: Eton College, Central Saint Martins Army Reservist: The London Regiment (attested Jan 2019) He's 35, ffs. Five years older than my MP, who’s now in his sixth year in Parliament. |
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Post by Wisconsin on Jul 18, 2021 20:48:30 GMT
Any idea why they picked this child? I can’t find any details of his career or education. EDIT: Found his candidature statement. Harlech, L.Having lived and worked in North Wales and London, I feel that I have a balanced view of rural and urban matters. I have the capacity and drive to be a regular serving member of the House, if elected. Areas of interest: Heritage, farming, housing, rural affairs, culture, media and sport. Serving committee member: CLA Cymru, Historic Homes Wales. Education: Eton College, Central Saint Martins Army Reservist: The London Regiment (attested Jan 2019) He's 35, ffs. That's almost certainly closer than the median age of HoL members to the median age of UK adults. I apologise for my poetic language. For the avoidance of doubt, I do not consider him to be a literal child. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 18, 2021 20:22:54 GMT
Viscount Simon (Labour) died on 15 August, creating a vacancy for an excepted hereditary peer.
He was elected to one of the 15 positions for office-holders in 1999 so the byelection will be in an electorate consisting of the whole House. It has been the tradition to elect someone from the same party as the outgoing member so this is another opportunity for a Labour hereditary peer to join the House - after Viscount Stansgate was elected last month. (He was the only candidate in that election)
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Post by greenhert on Aug 18, 2021 21:05:43 GMT
Viscount Simon (Labour) died on 15 August, creating a vacancy for an excepted hereditary peer. He was elected to one of the 15 positions for office-holders in 1999 so the byelection will be in an electorate consisting of the whole House. It has been the tradition to elect someone from the same party as the outgoing member so this is another opportunity for a Labour hereditary peer to join the House - after Viscount Stansgate was elected last month. (He was the only candidate in that election) Ah yes, the grandson of National Liberal founder John Simon. 3rd Viscount Simon's death also means the end of that peerage as there are no male heirs to it. |
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Post by Merseymike on Aug 18, 2021 21:50:05 GMT
Are there any remaining hereditary peers who are Labour leaning? Lord Monkswell died in 2020 and the peerage passed to his son - is he Labour? Any other Labour peers who fell by the wayside in 1999. Lord Melchett never married his partner as he wanted the baronetcy to die with him so his son did not inherit it
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 18, 2021 22:40:44 GMT
Are there any remaining hereditary peers who are Labour leaning? Lord Monkswell died in 2020 and the peerage passed to his son - is he Labour? Any other Labour peers who fell by the wayside in 1999. Lord Melchett never married his partner as he wanted the baronetcy to die with him so his son did not inherit it I’m sure there’s one more but I can’t find the document on the Parliament website - the Register doesn’t seem to differentiate by Party - but I’m sure the original notice of election to replace Lord Rea had Stephen Benn and one other eligible candidate who didn’t nominate. However Viscount Simon was elected by the whole House so I’m pretty sure his successor will be too and whilst there’s a convention to do a direct replacement, i.e. Crossbencher for a Crossbencher etc. it may be that they can’t follow it on this occasion. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 29, 2021 21:13:00 GMT
Candidates for the byelection in the Elected Office-Holders section to replace Viscount Simon (Lab): www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/lords-information-office/2021/notice-with-candidates-list-simon.pdfThere is an unofficial understanding that the new Peer comes from the same party as the former Peer. Biddulph, L. (Conservative) Hacking, L. (Labour) Kennet, L. (Labour) Lord Hacking is 83 and served in the House from 1971 until 1999; he had been a Conservative but left the party in 1998 over William Hague's European policy. He's previously stood as Labour and as a Crossbencher. Lord Kennet (Thoby Young) is 64 and has never previously been a Peer. His father was a Labour Peer turned SDP, Liberal Democrat and then returning to Labour. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 29, 2021 22:38:05 GMT
His father was a Labour Peer turned SDP, Liberal Democrat and then returning to Labour. Whose father was a Liberal turned Conservative politician and whose mother was the widow of Captain Scott. |
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Post by Eastwood on Nov 15, 2021 15:55:33 GMT
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Post by Eastwood on Nov 22, 2021 15:22:46 GMT
Just having a look back at the excluded peers from the 1999 Hereditaries. All but one of the Labour peers excluded in 1999 have now either been appointed a life peer, elected as a hereditary peer or passed away.
The one exception being Anthony Gifford QC who doesn’t seem to have expressed any interest in running in previous Lords by-elections.
The unsuccessful candidate here, Lord Kennet, is the only current holder of a hereditary peerage who has run in a by-election as a Labour peer. There may however be other Labour Party members who hold peerages and have never put their name forward.
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Post by samdwebber on Jan 7, 2022 0:47:38 GMT
It appears that Viscount Ridley resigned from the House of Lords in December so there will be a by-election for his place in due course. From today's Times diary: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-times-diary-colonial-joke-is-lost-on-bbc-jwwtcxcxt"One lord a-leaping Unreported over Christmas was the resignation from the Lords of the fifth Viscount Ridley, who stood down on December 17, the day after the Tories lost a by-election for the Commons seat once held by his brother-in-law, Owen Paterson. At 63, Ridley is the second youngest peer to retire but feels that nine years in the House, having entered in a hereditary peers’ by-election, is long enough. “Commuting from the northeast is time-consuming, as is taking part properly,” he says. “And I believe in doing things properly or not at all.” His desire to “give someone else a chance” is something a few should follow. While many, Ridley included, are assiduous, some seldom trouble Hansard. The Earl of Stair, for instance, last spoke in 2016." |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 30, 2022 17:24:33 GMT
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Post by westmercian on Feb 6, 2022 17:18:09 GMT
The Earl of Dudley cheekily by-passing the word limit by linking to a Youtube video! Fair play to him. Monckton's invocation of the Justinian code - well, to be expected from such a rum cove. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 9, 2022 18:38:55 GMT
The winner is Lord Strathcarron - the one who wanted everyone to read his Wikipedia page.
First prefs:
Strathcarron, L. 17
Camrose, V. 6
Ashcombe, L. 5
De La Warr, E. 3
Limerick, E. (Foxford, L.) 3
Monckton of Brenchley, V. 1
Windlesham, L. 1
Biddulph, L. 0
Dormer, L. 0
Dudley, L. 0
Combined elimination of Monckton, Windlesham, Biddulph, Dormer and Dudley resulted in one more vote for the Earl of Limerick and one more for Lord Strathcarron - that gave Strathcarron 18 out of 36 and so he was declared elected.
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Post by sjorford on Feb 11, 2022 7:34:05 GMT
Shouldn't the quota have been 19 out of 36? Otherwise subsequent transfers could have resulted in an 18-18 tie.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 11, 2022 9:58:34 GMT
Probably it should, but frankly I doubt it matters.
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Post by johnloony on Feb 17, 2022 0:53:22 GMT
Shouldn't the quota have been 19 out of 36? Otherwise subsequent transfers could have resulted in an 18-18 tie. No, because in the event of a tie, the tie-breaking mechanism is that the winner is the candidate who had more votes than the other at the first stage at which they had different numbers of votes. |
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Post by Wisconsin on Mar 30, 2022 14:53:43 GMT
Viscount Camrose has been elected in the latest Tory by-election (replacing Lord Rotherwick). www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/lords-information-office/2022/hereditary-peers-by-election-result-rotherwick.pdfHis election statement: Aged 52, member of the Conservative Party and life long Conservative voter. I live and work in London and would commit to voting and attending as needed. I advise businesses of all sizes on how to work more productively and adapt to change. I work with new ventures as a founder and investor and would hope to bring my expertise and energy to enhancing the public recognition of the House of Lords. |
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