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Post by therealriga on Jul 11, 2022 16:13:43 GMT
Part of me wants the Boundary Commission to go to the extreme of equalising electorates across the whole country: each constituency is a combination of whole wards, such that there is the smallest possible difference between the minimum and maximum electorates of the constituencies. Split wards are not allowed, therefore equality has to be achieved by using exclaves and detached bit all over the place to fit them into the quota. "I, being the acting returning officer for Aberdeen Riverside, Aberystwyth North East, Belfast Lower Falls, Birmingham Lozells, Burnley Gannow, Cornwall West Coast, Mid Hertfordshire, Rushcliffe Wiverton and Surrey South East, hereby give notice that the total number of votes cast was as follows..." |
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Post by pl on Jul 11, 2022 16:29:23 GMT
Part of me wants the Boundary Commission to go to the extreme of equalising electorates across the whole country: each constituency is a combination of whole wards, such that there is the smallest possible difference between the minimum and maximum electorates of the constituencies. Split wards are not allowed, therefore equality has to be achieved by using exclaves and detached bit all over the place to fit them into the quota. "I, being the acting returning officer for Aberdeen Riverside, Aberystwyth North East, Belfast Lower Falls, Birmingham Lozells, Burnley Gannow, Cornwall West Coast, Mid Hertfordshire, Rushcliffe Wiverton and Surrey South East, hereby give notice that the total number of votes cast was as follows..." Imagine the fun we'd have thinking up appropriate names for such seats... just trying to find anything in common between them. It might be even better if instead of wards we used parishes or polling districts. Easier to hit target. Such a model would have the pleasing effect of wiping out SNP, PC, SF..... |
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Post by islington on Jul 11, 2022 17:21:53 GMT
Here's an equal Cornwall, I don't think I'll try the whole country though!  It's strangely reminiscent of this:  Or this...
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Post by YL on Jul 11, 2022 17:47:48 GMT
Imagine the constituency map of Worcestershire if instead of current local government boundaries, local ties and convenience the BCE was supposed to take hundreds into account and historic county boundaries were protected. |
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Post by islington on Jul 11, 2022 18:37:37 GMT
Please feel free to give it a go.
Population of Worcs (ancient county) in 1881 was 380283, which is probably good for 7 seats.
Divided thusly:
Boroughs (NB not necessarily the same area as the Parliamentary boroughs) Bewdley - 3088 Droitwich - 3761 Dudley - 46252
Evesham - 5112 Kidderminster - 24270 Worcester - 33956
Hundreds Blackenhurst - 4030 Doddingtree - 13515 Halfshire - 159212 Oswaldslow - 49877 Pershore - 37130
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Post by YL on Jul 11, 2022 19:10:59 GMT
It's tempting to have Dudley on its own, treat Halfshire separately for three and then the rest can be divided into an urban Worcester & Kidderminster (58226), an Evesham including Blackenhurst and Oswaldslow (59019) and a Bewdley & Pershore covering everything else (58226).
Alternatively add a bit of Halfshire to Dudley (maybe the Warley pockets) and group Kidderminster with the rest of Halfshire for three seats. Then Oswaldslow forms a constituency on its own, Worcester & Bewdley includes Doddingtree (50559) and finally Evesham & Pershore including Blackenhurst (46272). The first option over-represents the Black Countryish north, the second the south.
(Though I actually meant March 2020 data...)
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jul 12, 2022 10:20:11 GMT
Also special shout out to Rainham - the town so nice they named it in two different constituencies. I give you Rainham and Rainham (73,592):  |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jul 12, 2022 13:30:25 GMT
A gold star to anybody who can manage Gillingham and Rainham using the Dorset and Greater London ones.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jul 12, 2022 14:08:14 GMT
A gold star to anybody who can manage Gillingham and Rainham using the Dorset and Greater London ones.
A likely Tory hold. Interesting mix of casework for the MP.
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Post by frankyank on Jul 12, 2022 14:40:41 GMT
The T(o/u)nbridges  |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jul 12, 2022 14:52:00 GMT
Henley and Henley  |
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Post by islington on Jul 12, 2022 15:17:37 GMT
I know I've posted this before, but - Kingswood and Kingswood (76148)
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Post by nyx on Jul 12, 2022 18:55:29 GMT
East Antrim and Wigtownshire I made this because I thought "what if constituency sizes only allowed 1% population deviation instead of 5%" and it turns out that that would necessitate the construction of a seat only partially in Northern Ireland.  |
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Post by islington on Jul 13, 2022 12:11:08 GMT
It's tempting to have Dudley on its own, treat Halfshire separately for three and then the rest can be divided into an urban Worcester & Kidderminster (58226), an Evesham including Blackenhurst and Oswaldslow (59019) and a Bewdley & Pershore covering everything else (58226). Alternatively add a bit of Halfshire to Dudley (maybe the Warley pockets) and group Kidderminster with the rest of Halfshire for three seats. Then Oswaldslow forms a constituency on its own, Worcester & Bewdley includes Doddingtree (50559) and finally Evesham & Pershore including Blackenhurst (46272). The first option over-represents the Black Countryish north, the second the south. (Though I actually meant March 2020 data...)OK, fair enough, but I'm not sure how you'd match the 2020 data up with the ancient hundreds. It's interesting that the hundreds were such a mess that even as far back as 1832 Worcs was one of the few counties where they weren't used for boundary-drawing purposes. Instead the division into east and west was by reference to the boundaries of the then very new-fangled (set in 1829, I think from memory) Petty Sessional Divisions. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 29, 2022 13:55:17 GMT
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Post by obsie on Oct 31, 2022 2:10:55 GMT
It would be interesting to see what sort of results they would get from a FPTP election with 90 single-member constituencies. I reckon it wouldn't be drastically different from the actual STV result. Having a roughly balanced population between the two communities is a big difference from the 2-to-1 ratio of 50 years ago, and there are clusters of support for the Alliance Party in the west and other parties elsewhere.  In terms of names for those: Clogher Valley South Tyrone Glenelly North Tyrone Pomeroy Mid Tyrone Drumquin West Tyrone Ballinderry (the one west of the lough - you have two with the same name) East Tyrone |
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Post by obsie on Oct 31, 2022 2:17:08 GMT
Enagh Glendermot or Tirkeeran or perhaps Foyle Valley
Benbradagh Dungiven and Eglinton
Portrush North Coast or Portrush and Portstewart (I wouldn't have added Castlerock to this one)
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Post by obsie on Oct 31, 2022 2:21:55 GMT
Carnlough Slemish
Whitehead Islandmagee and Whitehead
Monkstown Greenisland
Mossley Mallusk
Aldergrove Crumlin and Glenavy
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Post by obsie on Oct 31, 2022 2:28:33 GMT
Rathcoole Whiteabbey
Castle Duncairn
Botanic Cromac
Titanic Pottinger or Victoria
Carryduff Carryduff and Saintfield
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Post by obsie on Oct 31, 2022 2:35:24 GMT
Derryboy Dufferin or Killyleagh
Downpatrick Lecale
Dromore Dromore and Moira
Ballinderry Lisburn North and Aghalee
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