obsie
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Post by obsie on Oct 31, 2022 2:45:17 GMT
Kilkeel Mourne
Slieve Gullion South Armagh
Newtownhamilton Mid Armagh
Cusher East Armagh
Armagh Armagh City
Knockiveagh West Down
One observation I would make is that in insisting on dividing each putative constituency into five exact parts you're hamstringing yourself and coming up with some abominations (the constituency wandering along the Antrim-Down border before making a lunge into Lisburn's northern suburbs being a thing of particular beauty), particularly given that some of these are very unlikely to survive the revised reports (absolutely nobody - not even the UUP - wanted Loughgall put into Fermanagh and South Tyrone, for example).
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sirbenjamin
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Post by sirbenjamin on Nov 6, 2022 20:52:03 GMT
I've been trying to create the least populated contiguous 'constituency' containing everywhere I have ever lived.
The best I can manage so far has an electorate of 236,833, but I'm confident this can be beaten. The wards that need to be included are Graveney (Merton), Lewisham Central, Harestone (Tandridge), Westgate (Ipswich) and Gipping (Ipswich).
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Post by nyx on Nov 7, 2022 17:49:24 GMT
I'm not sure how to do that when one has lived on an island!
Wards for me are Thirsk (Hambleton), Esk Valley (Scarborough), Dormanstown (Redcar and Cleveland), and Longford (Coventry), which are easy enough to join, but there are also several wards on the Isle of Wight which I'm not at all sure how one would decide to join to a mainland constituency.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 7, 2022 18:05:15 GMT
(Freshwater North &) Yarmouth - Lymington (Boldre & Sway) would probably be the best solution in terms of least populated, otherwise you have to include masses of heavily populated wards in Portsmouth or Southampton
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 7, 2022 18:49:58 GMT
I'm not sure how to do that when one has lived on an island! Wards for me are Thirsk (Hambleton), Esk Valley (Scarborough), Dormanstown (Redcar and Cleveland), and Longford (Coventry), which are easy enough to join, but there are also several wards on the Isle of Wight which I'm not at all sure how one would decide to join to a mainland constituency. Surely you just "attach" said island to the nearest bit of the mainland. As done with lots of Scottish islands. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Nov 7, 2022 20:55:38 GMT
I've been trying to create the least populated contiguous 'constituency' containing everywhere I have ever lived. The best I can manage so far has an electorate of 236,833, but I'm confident this can be beaten. The wards that need to be included are Graveney (Merton), Lewisham Central, Harestone (Tandridge), Westgate (Ipswich) and Gipping (Ipswich). I've lived in the North East and in Oxford, but surprisingly my constituency is smaller than yours - I have an electorate of 167,755. The big challenge was avoiding the various metropolitan boroughs along the M62 with their huge wards - I cut across from the Yorkshire Dales to curve around the edge of Leeds, then down through the Isle of Axholme and into Bassetlaw. It'd be a gloriously diverse constituency - probably notionally Tory but might have been Labour back when they were winning comfortably in the likes of Bassetlaw and Brigg & Goole! |
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sirbenjamin
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Post by sirbenjamin on Nov 8, 2022 16:09:58 GMT
I've got it down to 235,535. Having Lewisham at the end and going the long way round actually results in a less populated seat than starting in Caterham and going through SE London.
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Post by islington on Nov 21, 2022 9:59:54 GMT
This is only for fun, hence I'm posting it here to avoid cluttering the E Mids thread, but here's yet another entirely legal 7-seat Leics.
 Three of the seats - Hinckley, S Leics and Loughborough - exceed 77000, which makes the numbers slightly easier elsewhere, but what really earns bonus points for this configuration is the elegant way that all seven seats border on Leicester city and radiate out to the county boundary.
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Post by David Ashforth on Jan 1, 2023 18:00:17 GMT
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Post by islington on Jan 1, 2023 22:20:49 GMT
This is only for fun, hence I'm posting it here to avoid cluttering the E Mids thread, but here's yet another entirely legal 7-seat Leics.
Three of the seats - Hinckley, S Leics and Loughborough - exceed 77000, which makes the numbers slightly easier elsewhere, but what really earns bonus points for this configuration is the elegant way that all seven seats border on Leicester city and radiate out to the county boundary.
Or this - Harborough is pretty horrible (but legal) but Oadby and Wigston are kept together and I don't think any towns are split. Mid Leics actually looks quite tidy in this arrangement.
(I know the ship has sailed so I'm just playing, which is why I'm posting in this thread.)
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 2, 2023 8:04:08 GMT
While acknowledging the previous existance of "Whitby & Pickering", the North York Moors are really quite a substantial barrier, and the Northallerton & Kirkbymoorside and Whitby & Malton constituencies re really rather unmanageable. And there's a chunk missing at the top that would allow a better Whitby & XXX constituency.  |
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Post by nyx on Jan 3, 2023 11:56:17 GMT
Craven and Clitheroe. Seems much more compact than the status quo of pairing Craven with Ripon... And all of the seat is either historically Yorkshire or just a mile or two from it (Clitheroe being only just on the historic Lancashire side of the border). If the Craven local authority were moved from Yorkshire and the Humber to the North West, you could see something like this.  |
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 3, 2023 12:00:19 GMT
Yes, that seat would make a lot of sense from a "community" point of view.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 3, 2023 12:13:13 GMT
Craven and Clitheroe. Seems much more compact than the status quo of pairing Craven with Ripon... And all of the seat is either historically Yorkshire or just a mile or two from it (Clitheroe being only just on the historic Lancashire side of the border). If the Craven local authority were moved from Yorkshire and the Humber to the North West, you could see something like this. With Craven council now into its last 12 weeks of existence, that's not going to happen, but surely the move should be to reverse the 1974 change and return the Forest of Bowland area to Yorkshire? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 3, 2023 12:21:39 GMT
The numbers almost work if you also return Sedbergh I think this more or less recreated the pre-1983 Skipton  |
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Post by rcronald on Mar 1, 2023 11:21:46 GMT
I've been trying to create a new version of the Greater London Council (92 seats), made most of the map but I'm having some trouble with NW London. I think the map came out decently in most places, but would love to receive some constructive criticism, name suggestions, and perhaps some help.  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 1, 2023 12:12:25 GMT
That Haringey Central seat is awful. Are you working to a 5% threshold?
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Post by rcronald on Mar 1, 2023 16:29:35 GMT
That Haringey Central seat is awful. Are you working to a 5% threshold? Yeah, some seats came out badly because I tried to preserve other areas. I'm working to a 10% thereshold, I'll change it to 5% instead if they used it at the time. My Hammersmith-Chiswick seat was so awful (mostly because I desperately tried to avoid a Sheperd's Bush-Chiswick seat) I deleted it and more than 10 other seats and uploaded the map incomplete. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Mar 1, 2023 17:30:47 GMT
If you're using a 10% range, then you can stick a lot closer to the existing borough boundaries. Every borough east of the Lea can stand alone, as can Hackney, TH and Westminster. Islington and Camden can go with the city, Barnet can stand along and Enfield and Haringey can pair for six seats.
Harrow and Brent then pair for six (they could theoretically stand alone); Hillingdon gets three; Ealing, H&F and K&C get 7 (with Acton going with Shepherds Bush); Hounslow goes with Twickenham and Richmond goes with Kingston.
I haven't bothered looking at the rest of South London and a few of those arrangements may be a little tricky, but for the most part I'd minimise cross-borough seats unless you're working to 5%.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 1, 2023 17:45:49 GMT
That Haringey Central seat is awful. Are you working to a 5% threshold? Yeah, some seats came out badly because I tried to preserve other areas. I'm working to a 10% thereshold, I'll change it to 5% instead if they used it at the time.My Hammersmith-Chiswick seat was so awful (mostly because I desperately tried to avoid a Sheperd's Bush-Chiswick seat) I deleted it and more than 10 other seats and uploaded the map incomplete. What do you mean by 'at the time'? If you mean from 1973 onwards when the GLC had 92 seats, there was no threshold of that kind. Seats were just assigned to each borough so there would have been a very wide range of electorates |
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