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Post by sanders on Sept 6, 2024 15:13:52 GMT
There is very little Irish diaspora left in Kilburn. Basically Kilburn is to the Irish community what Stepney is to the Jewish community, most people have moved further afield. I remember the old 2010 UK Polling Rerpot on Hampstead & Kilburn talked about Kilburn having something of an Irish community, and they are referred to as intelligentsia on the Wikipedia page for Hampstead & Highgate. I wonder when that started to change. Our managing agent in Highgate is Irish but I don't he think he lives in the area. You can also see the change in Junction where a lot of the Irish pubs are closing like the Mother Red Cap which was older patrons, and is now gone. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 6, 2024 15:27:23 GMT
Labour have never lost Manchester, however. It's far more Labour than Bristol. Which is a shame for psephologists. we have, but it was a long time ago. My cousin Sir Morris Pariser was Leader of the Labour Group on Manchester Council, but he was in opposition to the Tories. A council tower block was named after him years ago. His widow Lady Irene, who was a lovely person, survived to a very healthy age. I also had a cousin Eric Mendell who was a leading figure in the Manchester Labour Party, but he retired to Hove eventually, where I visited him with my grandma years ago. It's actually part of the University of Manchester isn't it? There is a large Pariser Building, possibly the engineering school. |
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Post by batman on Sept 6, 2024 15:29:42 GMT
I would say that a drop from 74% to 47.2% in Camden Square and from 69.5% to 46.8% in Kentish Town South is considerable, and from 68.2% to 51.5% in Kilburn is substantial. It, for example, could put the other two Labour seats in danger in Highgate. The 2026 London Council elections in 2026 are going to be interesting. we will not be surprised to be under pressure in Highgate ward. |
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Post by batman on Sept 6, 2024 15:31:16 GMT
we have, but it was a long time ago. My cousin Sir Morris Pariser was Leader of the Labour Group on Manchester Council, but he was in opposition to the Tories. A council tower block was named after him years ago. His widow Lady Irene, who was a lovely person, survived to a very healthy age. I also had a cousin Eric Mendell who was a leading figure in the Manchester Labour Party, but he retired to Hove eventually, where I visited him with my grandma years ago. It's actually part of the University of Manchester isn't it? There is a large Pariser Building, possibly the engineering school. in that case it's my belief that two buildings are named after him. I would have met him as a child but don't remember him, but remember Irene pretty well. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 6, 2024 15:31:27 GMT
The Conservatives were pretty competitive in Manchester throughout the 1970s - even in 1973 they were almost neck and neck in the popular vote and weren't fasr behind in seats by 1976. The Conservatives seem also to have overperformed in Bolton in 1973 - not sure why. That was not generall a good year for the Tories (for example, as someone may have once mentioned, Labour won Sutton, Carshalton in the GLC elections then) The era of Dame Kathleen Ollerenshaw. It is easy to forget that Tory strength was high enough in those days to hold places like Rusholme. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 6, 2024 15:32:49 GMT
It’s more like Hornsey and Friern Barnet than Islington North, though this is a simplification. If there's one place in England I'd compare to Didsbury, it would be Jesmond in Newcastle. |
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Post by sanders on Sept 6, 2024 15:39:24 GMT
I would say that a drop from 74% to 47.2% in Camden Square and from 69.5% to 46.8% in Kentish Town South is considerable, and from 68.2% to 51.5% in Kilburn is substantial. It, for example, could put the other two Labour seats in danger in Highgate. The 2026 London Council elections in 2026 are going to be interesting. we will not be surprised to be under pressure in Highgate ward. Labour were wiped out there before. It could well happen in 2026. The by-election here suggests it will. |
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Post by spirit on Sept 6, 2024 16:02:11 GMT
MERTHYR TYDFIL Bedlnog and Trelewis PRESTON, Gill (Welsh Labour / Llafur Cymru) 411 DROZD, Megan (Independent / Annibynnol) 314 HUGHES, Naomi (Plaid Cymru - The Party of Wales) 83 DAWSON, Edward John Welsh (Conservative Party Candidate) 24 SEARL, Richard (Independent / Annibynnol) 11 This would have been enough to flip the council to Labour, had a couple of their councillors not jumped ship since the 2022 elections. In a new twist, two councillors now leave the independent group - Paula Layton and Declan Salmon form the 'Dowlais and Pant Independent Group' |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 6, 2024 18:44:35 GMT
It's actually part of the University of Manchester isn't it? There is a large Pariser Building, possibly the engineering school. in that case it's my belief that two buildings are named after him. I would have met him as a child but don't remember him, but remember Irene pretty well. A quick check shows that there is also a Pariser Walk in Cheetham Hill, which would fit the age as well. |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 6, 2024 19:43:03 GMT
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Post by batman on Sept 6, 2024 20:29:05 GMT
despite the fact that it still has a very large majority of White people.
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 6, 2024 20:34:02 GMT
despite the fact that it still has a very large majority of White people. Up until quite recently, the BBC's Daily Service was broadcast from Didsbury! |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 6, 2024 22:12:57 GMT
That isn't what the article says. |
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Post by sanders on Sept 7, 2024 0:12:35 GMT
Typical Daily Fail clickbait codswallop headline. Didsbury is a very upscale neighbourhood. Even a scant Google reveals that. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 7, 2024 10:37:14 GMT
It’s more like Hornsey and Friern Barnet than Islington North, though this is a simplification. If there's one place in England I'd compare to Didsbury, it would be Jesmond in Newcastle. Any comments on this aargauer? |
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Post by sanders on Sept 7, 2024 10:52:51 GMT
Jesmond used to be Tory I think. Therefore, a comparison to Crouch End or Highgate or Muswell Hill or say, Jesmond, may well be apposite. Local insights welcomes.
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Post by phil156 on Sept 7, 2024 17:53:58 GMT
If anyone can work out what the percentage of the turnout was in Manchester was i be 0modt grateful.
The council keep on telling me 1329 voted but wont give me a % figure
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 7, 2024 17:59:26 GMT
If anyone can work out what the percentage of the turnout was in Manchester was i be 0modt grateful. The council keep on telling me 1329 voted but wont give me a % figure Baguley had an electorate of 11,683 in May. Adding up the elector numbers in the Notice of Poll gives 11,571. |
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Post by aargauer on Sept 7, 2024 20:04:32 GMT
If there's one place in England I'd compare to Didsbury, it would be Jesmond in Newcastle. Any comments on this aargauer? I'd agree. Didsbury = Jesmond Withington = Heston Chorlton = Ouseburn Sale = Gosforth Urmston = Kenton I don't think comparisons with anywhere in London work. London is too big. |
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Post by owainsutton on Sept 7, 2024 20:36:37 GMT
If anyone can work out what the percentage of the turnout was in Manchester was i be 0modt grateful. The council keep on telling me 1329 voted but wont give me a % figure Baguley had an electorate of 11,683 in May. Adding up the elector numbers in the Notice of Poll gives 11,571. Somewhere in the 11%-12% range, then. I think that confirms that I wasn't wrong, in our discussions when this one was called, that it had the potential to drop into single-figure turnout. If we'd not lifted a finger, then the turnout could have been a couple of % lower? |
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