r34t
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Post by r34t on Sept 6, 2024 8:52:28 GMT
Labour have never lost Manchester, however. It's far more Labour than Bristol. Which is a shame for psephologists. we have, but it was a long time ago. My cousin Sir Morris Pariser was Leader of the Labour Group on Manchester Council, but he was in opposition to the Tories. A council tower block was named after him years ago. His widow Lady Irene, who was a lovely person, survived to a very healthy age. I also had a cousin Eric Mendell who was a leading figure in the Manchester Labour Party, but he retired to Hove eventually, where I visited him with my grandma years ago. Bristol had a minority Tory administration in the mid 80s, similarly some time ago. But the original Q was whether the Greens have taken over from the LDs as opposition to Labour, which is a different question. In Bristol you could look at a yellow/red political map in the mid 00s, now look at a green/red map & the parallels are very clear. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 6, 2024 9:14:31 GMT
Changes from last contest in each ward Redcar and Cleveland ( changes from 2023) Con 37.9% (+11.2)Lab 20.4% (-25.8) Ind 11.8% (new) RefUK 10.7% (new) Ind 10.4% ( new) Ind 4.9% ( new) LD 4% ( new) No other Ind from before 18.5% swing from Labour to Conservative! Labour were basically nowhere in this ward for some time before last year, then took a seat easily. So yesterday could be seen as a reversion to the mean, perhaps. |
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Post by peterski on Sept 6, 2024 9:42:12 GMT
No great shakes for Reform at Longbeck either in a ward where Ukip won a seat before
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ColinJ
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Post by ColinJ on Sept 6, 2024 9:48:23 GMT
Very few conclusions can be drawn from Longbeck imo, except that the Conservatives did well. The pattern of under-nomination at the previous election, plus the plethora of independent candidates (at least one of them had previous Labour membership) make for significant complications.
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Post by president1 on Sept 6, 2024 9:49:17 GMT
Is there anyone at the Camden counts this morning? Any news so far?
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ColinJ
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Post by ColinJ on Sept 6, 2024 9:55:26 GMT
Is there anyone at the Camden counts this morning? Any news so far? Undoubtedly there will be plenty of people at the Camden counts (😉), unfortunately it doesn't look as though any are forum members! I wonder if they will count the wards simultaneously or sequentially.... |
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Post by batman on Sept 6, 2024 10:00:46 GMT
surely they will do them simultaneously.
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Post by olympian95 on Sept 6, 2024 10:11:24 GMT
Is there anyone at the Camden counts this morning? Any news so far? My LD contact at the count indicating not to expect any surprises. Indy possibly second in KTS |
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Post by andrea on Sept 6, 2024 10:13:18 GMT
13% turnout in Kilburn
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Post by sanders on Sept 6, 2024 10:13:56 GMT
Is there anyone at the Camden counts this morning? Any news so far? My LD contact at the count indicating not to expect any surprises. Indy possibly second in KTS The Independents probably saved Labour's bacon. We've seen this happen before. Beckton vibes here, I must say. |
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Post by andrewp on Sept 6, 2024 10:18:17 GMT
No great shakes for Reform at Longbeck either in a ward where Ukip won a seat before Suspect that they suffered from there being at least a couple of Independents who were appealing to the same voters as they are. |
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Post by john07 on Sept 6, 2024 10:38:10 GMT
Mirroring Bristol on a LA level ? Labour have never lost Manchester, however. It's far more Labour than Bristol. Which is a shame for psephologists. Labour lost Manchester in the late 1960s and only regained it in the early 1970s. |
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Post by sanders on Sept 6, 2024 10:41:11 GMT
Labour have never lost Manchester, however. It's far more Labour than Bristol. Which is a shame for psephologists. Labour lost Manchester in the late 1960s and only regained it in the early 1970s. I was talking about the post-1973 Manchester City Council, but you are correct. The late 1960s were wild electorally. You had Tories winning all sorts. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 6, 2024 10:44:17 GMT
The Conservatives were pretty competitive in Manchester throughout the 1970s - even in 1973 they were almost neck and neck in the popular vote and weren't fasr behind in seats by 1976. The Conservatives seem also to have overperformed in Bolton in 1973 - not sure why. That was not generall a good year for the Tories (for example, as someone may have once mentioned, Labour won Sutton, Carshalton in the GLC elections then)
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Post by sanders on Sept 6, 2024 10:45:59 GMT
The Conservatives were pretty competitive in Manchester throughout the 1970s - even in 1973 they were almost neck and neck in the popular vote and weren't fasr behind in seats by 1976. The Conservatives seem also to have overperformed in Bolton in 1973 - not sure why. That was not generall a good year for the Tories (for example, as someone may have once mentioned, Labour won Sutton, Carshalton in the GLC elections then)Someone may have mentioned that, yes. |
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Post by phil156 on Sept 6, 2024 10:48:41 GMT
CHESHIRE EAST FIGURES RESULT
Crewe West
Lab 553
Ref 333
Con 217
CF 109
Grn 63
Turnout 16.77%
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Post by olympian95 on Sept 6, 2024 10:50:53 GMT
Lab hold Kilburn, Tories second
Lab hold KTS, Greens second
Lab hold Camden Sq
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Post by sanders on Sept 6, 2024 10:54:18 GMT
Lab hold Kilburn, Tories second Lab hold KTS, Greens second Lab hold Camden Sq Andrew Feinstein endorsed KTS and CS independents. Fat lot of good it did. Hackney won't have as much splitting. The Greens and Independents made deals. I left the Feinstein camp recently. They don't want to do deals. In FPTP, you should cooperate, IMHO. Hackney, unlike Camden, is genuinely left-wing. Greens have won two wards there. In Camden, we’ve only won Highgate. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 6, 2024 11:17:02 GMT
CAMDEN Camden Square
Patricia Leman (Labour Party) 465
Mohammed Ali Farah (Independent) 164
James Dicker (Green Party) 133
Alexander Edward Matthews (Liberal Democrats 89
Jasper Warwick (Independent) 75
Esmerelda Akpoke (Local Conservatives) 48
CAMDEN Kentish Town South
Joseph William Ball (Labour Party) 674
Alice Amelia Brown (Green Party) 327
Muhammad Abu Naser (Independent) 289
Shajib Ziffer (Local Conservatives) 77
Tara Michelle-Louise Copeland (Liberal Democrats) 72
CAMDEN Kilburn
Robert George Thompson (Labour Party) 583
Peter Hornsby (Local Conservatives) 253
Michael Gomes Vieira (Green Party) 198
David Elkan (Liberal Democrats) 98
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 6, 2024 11:23:57 GMT
CS:
Lab 47.7
Ind 16.8
Grn 13.7
LD 9.1
Ind 2 7.7
Con 4.9
KTS:
Lab 46.8
Grn 22.7
Ind 20.1
Con 5.4
LD 5.0
Kilburn:
Lab 51.5
Con 22.3
Grn 17.5
LD 8.7
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