Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 29, 2024 21:09:00 GMT
ANGUS UA; Arbroath West, Letham & Friockheim (Ind resigned)
Candidates:
CRUICKSHANKS, Jack Alistair James (Conservative)
FINDLAY, Mark David (Green)
HILTON, Mark (Labour)
O’SHEA, Sandra (Liberal Democrat)
WOLF, Kathleen (SNP)
2022: SNP 1440, 913; Con 1663, 376; Ind 578, 524; Lab 423; LD 286; Grn 214; Alba 86
2017: Con 2585; SNP 1206, 526; Ind 1465; LD 326
Sandra O’Shea stood for the Lib Dems in Kirriemuir & Dean last time out, the other candidates are all new.
Current Council: SNP 13; Con 7; Ind 6; Lab 1; 1 vacancy (meaning a win would give the SNP an outright majority on the council).
CARDIFF UA; Grangetown ( Lab died)
Candidates:
ABDI SAMATER, Ahmed Abdillahi (Independent)
BEAR, James Robin (Liberal Democrat)
HOVORD, Andrew Charles (Independent)
KOPETZKI, Kirstie (Plaid Cymru, Green Party, Common Ground)
PATEL, Sash (Propel)
SATTAR, Waheeda Abdul (Labour)
WEAVER, Zak (Conservative)
2022: Lab 2885, 2733, 2665, 2533; PC/Grn/CG 1511, 1382, 1312, 1131; Con 487, 478, 442, 425; LD 266, 258, 250; Propel 175, 162, 150; TUSC 109
Sailesh Patel (who I’m guessing is Sash?) was the second Propel candidate here last time. I’m also guessing that Waheeda Sattar (Lab) is the wife of the deceased councillor Abdul Sattar. Of the others, James Bear stood for the Lib Dems in Cathays, but the others all seem to be new candidates.
Current Council: Lab 54; Con 11; LD 10; PC/Grn/CG 2; Propel 1; 1 vacancy
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 29, 2024 21:11:52 GMT
I’m also guessing that Waheeda Sattar (Lab) is the wife of the deceased councillor Abdul Sattar. Correct. |
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Post by cibwr on Apr 12, 2024 8:58:02 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 12, 2024 15:57:00 GMT
I don't like this criticism. The Labour Party is perfectly entitled to select the widow of a deceased councillor and has done so many times as have the Conservative Party. It is also entitled to select a candidate who is unable to campaign in person for whatever reason. The concept of cultural and religious reasons for not campaigning whilst in a period of formal mourning would once have been a commonplace to many British people in the Victorian period when formal mourning was closely observed. None of that should stop the selection of an appropriate candidate who wishes to follow on the good work of a spouse. She has that opportunity now and only now. Why deny her a possible tour of duty covering decades when she will not be in mourning just because she is unable to campaign this one time in this one campaign? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 12, 2024 16:18:53 GMT
I don't like this criticism. The Labour Party is perfectly entitled to select the widow of a deceased councillor and has done so many times as have the Conservative Party. It is also entitled to select a candidate who is unable to campaign in person for whatever reason. The concept of cultural and religious reasons for not campaigning whilst in a period of formal mourning would once have been a commonplace to many British people in the Victorian period when formal mourning was closely observed. None of that should stop the selection of an appropriate candidate who wishes to follow on the good work of a spouse. She has that opportunity now and only now. Why deny her a possible tour of duty covering decades when she will not be in mourning just because she is unable to campaign this one time in this one campaign? I think the more important point is that, on reading the full story, the period of mourning - during which she is only supposed to leave the marital home out of necessity - lasts for four months. So, presumably, no council meetings and no going out to look at issues of concern to her constituents. Not unprecedented - I have known of councillors absent for periods of weeks/months because of work commitments or health issues - but I would hope that the electors would be made aware. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 12, 2024 19:35:18 GMT
Given the tone of the article, I'm not hugely surprised that Labour declined to comment on it.
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Post by greenman on Apr 18, 2024 15:09:03 GMT
In Abroath West, Letham and Frockheim with no Independent and Alba, where will those votes go and if the SNP vote declines does it go to Labour or Green? Looks like a Conservative win here on transfers.
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 18, 2024 20:04:10 GMT
In Abroath West, Letham and Frockheim with no Independent and Alba, where will those votes go and if the SNP vote declines does it go to Labour or Green? Looks like a Conservative win here on transfers. A lot of it probably stays at home, tbh... |
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Post by andrewp on Apr 19, 2024 8:52:29 GMT
Another chance for the SNP to break their duck for the year in Angus next week. Tony Otim - on the opening post- would an SNP win give them half the seats on Angus - rather than an overall majority? |
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 19, 2024 11:59:20 GMT
Another chance for the SNP to break their duck for the year in Angus next week. Especially since, unlike in Inverness last week, there is no Independent standing again in the byelection to complicate matters. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 19, 2024 17:19:31 GMT
Another chance for the SNP to break their duck for the year in Angus next week. Tony Otim - on the opening post- would an SNP win give them half the seats on Angus - rather than an overall majority? Er, yes... sloppy maths or sloppy english probably on my part. Sorry |
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Post by Tony Otim on Apr 19, 2024 17:20:59 GMT
Another chance for the SNP to break their duck for the year in Angus next week. Especially since, unlike in Inverness last week, there is no Independent standing again in the byelection to complicate matters. Last time's result as a single winner was only a 2% lead over the Tories (see the Ballot Box Scotland analysis) - they'd make the Tories slightly favoured here and I think with this week's news that's probably a bit more likely. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 19, 2024 19:16:13 GMT
Given the tone of the article, I'm not hugely surprised that Labour declined to comment on it. Martin Shipton has a massive chip on his shoulder and Nation.Cymru despite being in receipt of public cash is a mouth piece for pro-independence so don’t be shocked when they run pieces like this. The Welsh media really is an utter shower. 😏 |
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Post by Clark on Apr 20, 2024 6:24:02 GMT
I think the Conservatives win in Angus. The anti-SNP vote doesn't necessarily go to Labour here - this is not the central belt.
Although Arbroath is more SNP, there is a not insignificant Tory vote too - and of course, the blue vote is the winner in the rural Frockheim and Letham areas.
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Post by casualobserver on Apr 21, 2024 1:29:54 GMT
Given the tone of the article, I'm not hugely surprised that Labour declined to comment on it. Martin Shipton has a massive chip on his shoulder and Nation.Cymru despite being in receipt of public cash is a mouth piece for pro-independence so don’t be shocked when they run pieces like this. The Welsh media really is an utter shower. 😏 We have and must protect freedom of the press, even if we don’t like the bias of particular journalists or publications. But I’m shocked that a ‘news outlet’ in receipt of public money should be so willing to publish such a partisan story just before a local by-election. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 21, 2024 7:23:39 GMT
Martin Shipton has a massive chip on his shoulder and Nation.Cymru despite being in receipt of public cash is a mouth piece for pro-independence so don’t be shocked when they run pieces like this. The Welsh media really is an utter shower. 😏 We have and must protect freedom of the press, even if we don’t like the bias of particular journalists or publications. But I’m shocked that a ‘news outlet’ in receipt of public money should be so willing to publish such a partisan story just before a local by-election. Martin Shipton has always found it difficult to tell the difference between reporter and participant in politics. See also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ceredigion_by-election |
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Post by maxque on Apr 21, 2024 12:48:41 GMT
Martin Shipton has a massive chip on his shoulder and Nation.Cymru despite being in receipt of public cash is a mouth piece for pro-independence so don’t be shocked when they run pieces like this. The Welsh media really is an utter shower. 😏 We have and must protect freedom of the press, even if we don’t like the bias of particular journalists or publications. But I’m shocked that a ‘news outlet’ in receipt of public money should be so willing to publish such a partisan story just before a local by-election. That's quite rich coming from a Conservative supporter. |
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Post by phil156 on Apr 24, 2024 15:28:43 GMT
Cardiff counts on Thursday 10 pm the reason it's not taking place next week is to keep it separate from the PCC - I wonder how they cope in England
Angus counts on Friday morning
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Post by peterl on Apr 24, 2024 16:28:23 GMT
Cardiff counts on Thursday 10 pm the reason it's not taking place next week is to keep it separate from the PCC - I wonder how they cope in England Angus counts on Friday morning I think this is more of an issue in Wales because of the different voting ages, people can vote at 16 for a council by election in Cardiff but its 18 for police commissioner. |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 24, 2024 17:45:13 GMT
Cardiff counts on Thursday 10 pm the reason it's not taking place next week is to keep it separate from the PCC - I wonder how they cope in England Angus counts on Friday morning I think this is more of an issue in Wales because of the different voting ages, people can vote at 16 for a council by election in Cardiff but its 18 for police commissioner. So it's the same issue that would happen with citizenship when Westminster elections coincide with council elections (EU citizens still having the right to vote in locals but not generals). |
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