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Post by carlton43 on Apr 20, 2024 12:47:22 GMT
LOL Yes let's 'make history'! Woden wept. |
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Post by Ports on Apr 20, 2024 13:48:54 GMT
Presumably one of Allister's conditions was that he got the nod in North Antrim, which the DUP was never going to agree to. Not to mention the UUP probably wants to contest South Antrim. They would have probably offered the UUP Fermanagh and South Tyrone as if that was a new thing. |
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Post by nyx on Apr 20, 2024 15:24:52 GMT
Not to mention the UUP probably wants to contest South Antrim. They would have probably offered the UUP Fermanagh and South Tyrone as if that was a new thing. Not sure that agreement will last. Now that the boundary changes have ensured Fermanagh and South Tyrone is unlikely to be competitive, why would the DUP stand aside? |
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Post by Ports on Apr 20, 2024 15:48:06 GMT
They would have probably offered the UUP Fermanagh and South Tyrone as if that was a new thing. Not sure that agreement will last. Now that the boundary changes have ensured Fermanagh and South Tyrone is unlikely to be competitive, why would the DUP stand aside? That's a fair point, though I think the emphasis is more on the required tradeoff if there were a successful agreement. Which other seat could the DUP possibly offer the UUP, in order that they get a free run in whichever seat? Perhaps a Belfast area one but you see why there isn't much for the DUP to offer. |
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Post by irish observer on Apr 21, 2024 16:47:01 GMT
As it stands at the moment this is a decent chance for Alliance to actually return to Westminster with a 3rd seat next-time out. Absence of DUP big-hitter and Eastwood will outpoll Beattie anyhow plus TUV will take some residual Anti-Deal Unionist Vote. Some middle-class Nationalists will vote Alliance for Westminster as before to end DUP representation as they have no seat at Stormont either.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Apr 21, 2024 18:01:14 GMT
If the GB "anti conservative" (small and large c) attitude is reflected in NI, Alliance could do very well against Conservative figures (capital c)
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 24, 2024 9:46:55 GMT
Donaldson and his wife are in court this morning.
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Post by markgoodair on May 22, 2024 12:41:57 GMT
Donaldson's solicitor has confirmed that he won't be a candidate in the General Election.
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Post by markgoodair on May 23, 2024 20:12:04 GMT
As it stands at the moment this is a decent chance for Alliance to actually return to Westminster with a 3rd seat next-time out. Absence of DUP big-hitter and Eastwood will outpoll Beattie anyhow plus TUV will take some residual Anti-Deal Unionist Vote. Some middle-class Nationalists will vote Alliance for Westminster as before to end DUP representation as they have no seat at Stormont either. Alliance have selected Sorcha Eastwood MLA as their candidate. |
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Post by markgoodair on May 24, 2024 13:30:51 GMT
Robbie Butler MLA will be the Ulster Unionist candidate.
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Post by markgoodair on May 24, 2024 17:26:09 GMT
Johnathan Buckley has been selected by the DUP.
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Post by stb12 on May 24, 2024 22:09:05 GMT
Johnathan Buckley has been selected by the DUP. An MLA for Upper Bann |
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Post by john07 on May 25, 2024 9:13:25 GMT
As it stands at the moment this is a decent chance for Alliance to actually return to Westminster with a 3rd seat next-time out. Absence of DUP big-hitter and Eastwood will outpoll Beattie anyhow plus TUV will take some residual Anti-Deal Unionist Vote. Some middle-class Nationalists will vote Alliance for Westminster as before to end DUP representation as they have no seat at Stormont either. Alliance have selected Sorcha Eastwood MLA as their candidate. A Sun headline could be:: Phew what a Scorcher. |
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Post by aidanthomson on May 25, 2024 10:19:20 GMT
Alliance have selected Sorcha Eastwood MLA as their candidate. A Sun headline could be:: Phew what a Scorcher. I'm pretty sure that The Sun, or another of the red tops, did run such a headline when there was talk of a by-election in Lagan Valley a year or two back. I can't find a link for it now. I'm not sure how Sorcha Eastwood pronounces her first name, but would imagine 'Surr-a-ca' or 'Sirr-a-ca', or possibly 'Sor-sha'. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2024 11:20:41 GMT
A Sun headline could be:: Phew what a Scorcher. I'm pretty sure that The Sun, or another of the red tops, did run such a headline when there was talk of a by-election in Lagan Valley a year or two back. I can't find a link for it now. I'm not sure how Sorcha Eastwood pronounces her first name, but would imagine 'Surr-a-ca' or 'Sirr-a-ca', or possibly 'Sor-sha'. I always thought that it was an anglicisation of 'Saoirse', in which case the latter would be correct, or at least very close. |
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Post by stb12 on May 25, 2024 11:22:46 GMT
She fits well into good looking politicos anyway
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Post by aidanthomson on May 25, 2024 12:59:03 GMT
I'm pretty sure that The Sun, or another of the red tops, did run such a headline when there was talk of a by-election in Lagan Valley a year or two back. I can't find a link for it now. I'm not sure how Sorcha Eastwood pronounces her first name, but would imagine 'Surr-a-ca' or 'Sirr-a-ca', or possibly 'Sor-sha'. I always thought that it was an anglicisation of 'Saoirse', in which case the latter would be correct, or at least very close. No, they are completely different names. 'Saoirse' means 'freedom', and 'Sorcha' means 'bright' or 'shining'. I have worked on the island of Ireland for over twenty years and have encountered both pronunciations (including a class where there was one of each); my impression is that 'Sirr-a-ca'/'Surr-a-ca' is the norm in the Republic, but the only Sorcha I encountered in Northern Ireland was a 'Sor-sha'. |
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Post by YL on May 25, 2024 13:55:40 GMT
I always thought that it was an anglicisation of 'Saoirse', in which case the latter would be correct, or at least very close. No, they are completely different names. 'Saoirse' means 'freedom', and 'Sorcha' means 'bright' or 'shining'. I have worked on the island of Ireland for over twenty years and have encountered both pronunciations (including a class where there was one of each); my impression is that 'Sirr-a-ca'/'Surr-a-ca' is the norm in the Republic, but the only Sorcha I encountered in Northern Ireland was a 'Sor-sha'. There is no way Irish spelling conventions can be interpreted to get an "sh" sound in there, and I would suggest that that pronunciation might well owe something to confusion with "Saoirse". |
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Post by aidanthomson on May 25, 2024 16:07:43 GMT
No, they are completely different names. 'Saoirse' means 'freedom', and 'Sorcha' means 'bright' or 'shining'. I have worked on the island of Ireland for over twenty years and have encountered both pronunciations (including a class where there was one of each); my impression is that 'Sirr-a-ca'/'Surr-a-ca' is the norm in the Republic, but the only Sorcha I encountered in Northern Ireland was a 'Sor-sha'. There is no way Irish spelling conventions can be interpreted to get an "sh" sound in there, and I would suggest that that pronunciation might well owe something to confusion with "Saoirse". I agree re spelling conventions, but it doesn't stop some people pronouncing their name that way. 'Sirr-a-ca' is my default pronunciation, but I taught two Sorchas in a class a few years ago one of whom was a Sirr-a-ca and the other a Sor-sha. |
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Post by irish observer on May 26, 2024 5:23:35 GMT
On the above my understanding was that Sorcha is the Irish name for Sarah. I would pronounce the name Surracka myself. Sor-sha as you suggest would be another spelling of the same name but you have the correct meaning.
I've known men and women both called Saoirse or Seoirse, the Irish for George, but the freedom reference is emphasised by several. Naoise is interesting as it seems both men and women use the name though it was originally a Celtic warrior's name.
Interesting deviation.
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