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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 8:29:16 GMT
I have never been to either Ripon or Knaresborough but I have been to Skipton many times and recommend it to anyone. It is also just about the only place on the country where I know for 100% certain that I'll be able to buy salted liquorice when I visit
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Post by markgoodair on Jul 1, 2024 8:48:42 GMT
I have never been to either Ripon or Knaresborough but I have been to Skipton many times and recommend it to anyone. It is also just about the only place on the country where I know for 100% certain that I'll be able to buy salted liquorice when I visit It also has some cracking pubs. |
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Post by batman on Jul 1, 2024 9:30:14 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago.
One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 11:43:31 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. A wonderful pint only rarely found outside of God's Own County. My mum used to live almost directly opposite the brewery in Keighley |
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Post by finsobruce on Jul 1, 2024 11:50:33 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. A wonderful pint only rarely found outside of God's Own County. My mum used to live almost directly opposite the brewery in Keighley Do you mean specifically on draught? You can certainly buy it bottled in supermarkets.
I had a pint of Boltmaker (maybe they should re-name it Toolmaker?  ) in the Axe in Stoke Newington on Saturday, but I do think that Tim Taylors seems less available in the free trade than it used to be. Nicholsons pubs are usually the best bet in London. |
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Post by batman on Jul 1, 2024 12:28:39 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. A wonderful pint only rarely found outside of God's Own County. My mum used to live almost directly opposite the brewery in Keighley you are incorrect. It is extremely widely available in London. Indeed, it's so widely available that I very rarely have it in the Bricklayer's Arms, the pub for which I play cricket, preferring the more obscure members of the Timothy Taylor's range. I would think at least 300 London pubs sell the ale. I also had a pint of Landlord canvassing in Worthing West earlier in the campaign, in a pub owned by Greene King. If you finsobruce or any other members of the forum particularly like Timothy Taylor's a visit to the Bricklayer's Arms in Putney is recommended if you're not within reach of Yorkshire, as it normally sells at least 3 of their ales plus several others; at present the Dark Mild is not on, but they have another excellent Dark Mild brewed by Five Points in London. When that runs out, they will probably revert to the Taylors brew. I have, to date, yet to go to a Taylor's tied house, all of which are in Yorkshire. (Note : the Boltmakers is consistently excellent at the Brick. It's the same ale as the former Best Bitter but the name has changed.) |
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Post by johnloony on Jul 1, 2024 14:45:37 GMT
Also I would have thought Skipton would be one of the stronger areas for Reform in this constituency. It is another one that I wonder how it would go if Labour had actually targeted it (alongside Beverley & Holderness and Richmond & Northallerton) I delivered flyers to 1420 homes in Skipton yesterday (feel like I've just run a marathon, its very hilly and my backpack was 12kg at the start!) As it happens, the most leaflets I ever delivered in one day was 1,421 in Bensham Manor ward in Croydon in January 2007. I had 1,600 with me, and delivered 1,421 in 10 hours from 7am to 5pm. The only constraint which stopped me doing more was that it got too dark for me to see properly where the letterboxes were. Mine were only size A6, so even 1,600 of them only weighed 2kg to start with. |
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 1, 2024 15:30:46 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. I know Julian quite well. He was never a prat. One of the smartest guys I knew as an MP once said that Julian Smith was one of the few really capable MPs. He reckoned a large number of MPs were utterly useless I used to have the odd pint or two with him at the One Eyed Rat in Ripon. He's a real beer lover is Julian. I've canvassed for him a few times. He's a good lad |
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 1, 2024 16:12:01 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. A wonderful pint only rarely found outside of God's Own County. My mum used to live almost directly opposite the brewery in Keighley Landlord WAS one of the best pints in the land, without a doubt. When I say WAS, I mean before 1993/4 The last pint I had I could have been drinking anything. It is almost devoid of hops. In fact, it is fucking rubbish. This isn't even just my opinion. I had this argument with the brewery. Many say that things changed when they bought the copper from Oldham brewery but I'm not convinced. What they did do was chage the recipe as much as they deny it. Anyone thinking back 40 years will remember that part of the promo said that it was brewed with Styrian Golding hops and Golden Promise malt. What it says now is that it uses Goldings hops and Golden Promise malt. That ain't the same thing at all, baby. Styrian Goldings come from Austria and they are expensive. That is where they used to get them from. Goldings are just Goldings and probably come from Kent. Syrian Golding are a very aromatic hop and the truth is that they will be getting bought up by big brewing companies. As markgoodair will confirm, a local guy called Bob Hunter once brewed a beer called Chardonayle (5%) and it was fabulous but he had to stop brewing it because he couldn't get the West Coast aromaric hops that he used in it, because the likes of Coors were buying them all in advance. My view is that Timothy Taylor changed the hops in Landlord and cut the amount they were putting in, in order to save money. When I had this argument with them recently, face to face, they didn't tell me I was wrong when I said it. Landlord now sells on its reputation which was well earned and deserved at the time and enhanced by Madonna, who gave it a free ad on Parkinson or whatever it was. One thing you tasted with Landlord in the olden days, was citrus....particularly lemons and a kind of straw taste. it was fabulous. But it isn't any more. It's just run-of-the-mill bland shite. Abbeydale Moonshine is better I would say and Abbeydale Absolution is probably about as good a pint as you will get anywhere. Abbeydale Holy Water, is a 6% version of Absolution, if I can ever get him to brew it again. It is seriously good. Last week I was in the Beacon Hotel at Sedgely. Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby is still very good and Surprise is also superb. When I am in London.....the home of mediocre beer, I tend to go for Dark Star beers. They always have American Pale Ale at The Harp in Covent Garden and quite often Revelation. Both excellent. I have been saying for a while that there are far more breweries around than there ever was but it hasn't been for the better. A lot of it is rubbish. Probably 95% in fact. Brewed by people who don't have a clue what they are doing. It's just a fashion thing. 30 years ago we used to get beers from all over the country because there were far less breweries. I haven't seen Hopback Summer Lightning for years. Because it's from Salisbury not Yorkshire. Lots of the beers we see around here nowadays are basically mediocre at best and fucking dibolical at worst. |
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Post by bungle on Jul 1, 2024 16:52:44 GMT
My folks have lived in Skipton these past 20 years so I have got to know all the pubs. The Woolly Sheep right in the centre has all the TT range in cask pretty much all year round. Thus I can anticipate a well kept Ram Tam as a treat when in the mood (I can't bear to call it Dark Landlord). The Narrow Boat was the place for a wide selection of weird and wonderful ales, now alas a little more constrained since being taken over by Kirkstall.
Plenty of Labour activism and posters in Skipton this time, just as there was in May for the Mayoral election. First time in 20 years of voting there that my parents backed a winner. I won't hold my breath for a repeat this time, despite some MRP excitement.
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Post by Ron Swanson on Jul 1, 2024 18:14:25 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. I know Julian quite well. He was never a prat. One of the smartest guys I knew as an MP once said that Julian Smith was one of the few really capable MPs. He reckoned a large number of MPs were utterly useless I used to have the odd pint or two with him at the One Eyed Rat in Ripon. He's a real beer lover is Julian. I've canvassed for him a few times. He's a good lad It might just be me being a cynic, but I'm starting to wonder whether candidates are selected precisely because they are useless? Have you done anything embarrassing in the past - yes - right, we'll have you. A note in the black book in case we need a vote for something. The Tory intake of 2019 was particularly dire, I wonder if Labour's will be the same if they win a stonking majority... I'd expect not, with the election having long been in the pipeline, just brought forward... |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 1, 2024 18:50:02 GMT
It's certainly notable that Smith was a rare example of a Northern Ireland Secretary who seemed to be well thought of on all sides of the divide there
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 1, 2024 19:29:35 GMT
I know Julian quite well. He was never a prat. One of the smartest guys I knew as an MP once said that Julian Smith was one of the few really capable MPs. He reckoned a large number of MPs were utterly useless I used to have the odd pint or two with him at the One Eyed Rat in Ripon. He's a real beer lover is Julian. I've canvassed for him a few times. He's a good lad It might just be me being a cynic, but I'm starting to wonder whether candidates are selected precisely because they are useless? Have you done anything embarrassing in the past - yes - right, we'll have you. A note in the black book in case we need a vote for something. The Tory intake of 2019 was particularly dire, I wonder if Labour's will be the same if they win a stonking majority... I'd expect not, with the election having long been in the pipeline, just brought forward... 😂😂😂 Well, I reckon there is something in what you say. I mean, the pillock Iran Ahmed Khan was an arsehole. I am told, by someone who was there, as they say, that at least one of the people who assessed him said he was totally unsuitable. I'm hardly surprised. If Labour win lots of seats that they never expected to win, they will have a similar problem |
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Post by batman on Jul 1, 2024 20:11:12 GMT
The vetting has been pretty thorough. I don't doubt that there's a chance of the odd problem, but I don't think it'll be remotely as it was in the last parliament.
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Post by peterski on Jul 1, 2024 20:30:07 GMT
Interesting that Reform are predicted to do well here because it doesn't seem like one of their best areas on paper . Ripon may well be more Reform friendly than most of the rest of the seat , being not that affluent and very white and somewhat parochial. It definitely falls outside the famous Harrogate and north Leeds 'golden triangle' of ostentatious wealth anyway.
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Post by Ron Swanson on Jul 1, 2024 20:42:38 GMT
Interesting that Reform are predicted to do well here because it doesn't seem like one of their best areas on paper . Ripon may well be more Reform friendly than most of the rest of the seat , being not that affluent and very white and somewhat parochial. It definitely falls outside the famous Harrogate and north Leeds 'golden triangle' of ostentatious wealth anyway. Ripon isn’t as wealthy as Harrogate, but isn’t by any means a poor or deprived area, reminds me a little bit of Tadcaster I suppose, without a crack pot land owner running the joint like a tin pot dictator. The Tory voters there seem to me like the sort that’d go LD/Lab rather than Reform. The eye test would say that it voted leave, but only just. Not like Harrogate that was solidly remain, and I expect Knaresborough more so - 60%+, but hardly a bastion of Brexit. |
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Post by batman on Jul 1, 2024 20:53:59 GMT
It may be predicted that Reform do well here, but it still looks like a very wild prediction to me.
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Post by Ron Swanson on Jul 1, 2024 20:57:43 GMT
It may be predicted that Reform do well here, but it still looks like a very wild prediction to me. To quote Paddy Ashdown, if Reform win here I’ll eat my hat. It just isn’t happening. Bronze medal at best. |
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Post by devolutionist on Jul 3, 2024 21:25:01 GMT
I delivered flyers to 1420 homes in Skipton yesterday (feel like I've just run a marathon, its very hilly and my backpack was 12kg at the start!) As it happens, the most leaflets I ever delivered in one day was 1,421 in Bensham Manor ward in Croydon in January 2007. I had 1,600 with me, and delivered 1,421 in 10 hours from 7am to 5pm. The only constraint which stopped me doing more was that it got too dark for me to see properly where the letterboxes were. Mine were only size A6, so even 1,600 of them only weighed 2kg to start with. Funnily enough I took exactly 1600 with me. When I got on the train home I counted and I had 178 leaflets left. However I remember throwing a couple of leaflets in the bin on the day for being cut oddly by the printers, so I can't claim to have beaten your record by 1 leaflet, instead it sounds like you have beat me by 1 leaflet! If I'd seen another house or two on the way back to the train station I would have leafleted, but I was physically exhausted by that point, the aim was to do all 1600 but my body wouldn't let me. |
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Post by devolutionist on Jul 3, 2024 21:33:39 GMT
I have only been to Skipton once & I think had my first ever pint of Landlord in a rather attractive pub in the town centre. That was about 40 years ago. One thing I will note is that when Julian Smith was selected here in place of David Curry most members of the UKPR forum who knew anything about him (I didn't at that time) agreed that he was a complete prat. But his reputation actually appears to have improved since then. Not many politicians manage this. I know Julian quite well. He was never a prat. One of the smartest guys I knew as an MP once said that Julian Smith was one of the few really capable MPs. He reckoned a large number of MPs were utterly useless I used to have the odd pint or two with him at the One Eyed Rat in Ripon. He's a real beer lover is Julian. I've canvassed for him a few times. He's a good lad I've encountered very briefly twice at hustings and he seems like a nice guy, shook my hand, asked if I was feeling better after I missed a third hustings due to a bug. I was wondering actually whether he would shake my hand as I had a bit of a public ding-dong with Andrew Jones in the neighbouring seat that I suspect he knows about. order-order.com/2024/05/14/tory-mp-found-in-breach-of-ipsa-code-while-embroiled-in-row-with-constituent/He also stuck around for quite a while after one of the hustings to chat to members of the public. I don't think he'll lose his seat, there isn't enough general animosity towards him in the constituency, I think he'll cling on for another term. |
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) in the Axe in Stoke Newington on Saturday, but I do think that Tim Taylors seems less available in the free trade than it used to be. Nicholsons pubs are usually the best bet in London. 
