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Post by Merseymike on May 22, 2024 18:03:21 GMT
And Corbyn will have to make a decision soon Depends when the Labour new candidate.... |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2024 18:05:39 GMT
Michael Crick points out that there's still time to do a proper selection in any given constituency.
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Post by andrea on May 22, 2024 18:10:09 GMT
The original selection timetable is
today: shortlisting interview by NEC panel
24th May: postal ballot being sent out
25th May: online ballot being sent out
29th May: virtual hustings
1st June: ballots closure
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Post by ricmk on May 22, 2024 18:12:50 GMT
Maybe the real reason for Sunak calling the General Election was to muck Labour up in Islington North? It seems more credible than most of the other reasons floated today.
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Post by batman on May 22, 2024 18:15:21 GMT
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Post by John Chanin on May 22, 2024 19:26:42 GMT
I have been laying off commenting here, but now an election has been called I will give my opinion. I don't think Jeremy Corbyn has any real desire to stand as an independent. He can pursue his political aims outside parliament. However he will feel obliged to stand if Labour impose a candidate with a record of criticising him. It doesn't require some left wing firebrand. Just a routine party loyalist who is happy to praise Corbyn's 40 year commitment to the constituency and the Labour Party.
Undoubtedly there is a claque of people who would greatly like Corbyn to stand against the Labour Party, but I am doubtful they will have much influence on the man himself.
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Post by kevinf on May 22, 2024 21:11:47 GMT
undoubtedly. CLPs will not have time to have proper selection procedures now. The same will apply to all parties in seats where they haven't selected There is actually time if the will is there, especially as it has started in Islington N. I expect other parties will have proper selections. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 9:49:02 GMT
If Moema gets chosen and wins the seat, we would have a GLA constituency by-election in the North East seat.
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Post by borisminor on May 23, 2024 11:01:48 GMT
If Moema gets chosen and wins the seat, we would have a GLA constituency by-election in the North East seat. I believe if she wins this would be the first ever London Assembly by-election. |
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Post by right on May 23, 2024 11:10:46 GMT
I have been laying off commenting here, but now an election has been called I will give my opinion. I don't think Jeremy Corbyn has any real desire to stand as an independent. He can pursue his political aims outside parliament. However he will feel obliged to stand if Labour impose a candidate with a record of criticising him. It doesn't require some left wing firebrand. Just a routine party loyalist who is happy to praise Corbyn's 40 year commitment to the constituency and the Labour Party. Undoubtedly there is a claque of people who would greatly like Corbyn to stand against the Labour Party, but I am doubtful they will have much influence on the man himself. Some of those who want Corbyn to stand are in the Leader of the Opposition's Office It would be a stark way to show that Labour are no longer far left |
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Post by philvn on May 23, 2024 12:06:47 GMT
The Times saying Corbyn is expected to announce his candidacy soon. Should be a fascinating battle.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2024 12:09:26 GMT
The moment he does so, he is automatically excluded from Labour Party membership under Chapter 2, Clause 1.4.B.iv.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 23, 2024 12:12:34 GMT
The moment he does so, he is automatically excluded from Labour Party membership under Chapter 2, Clause 1.4.B.iv. Does the Labour Party Rule Book really operate like a magic spell or does he only get excluded when the NEC or a sub-committee rules that he's broken the rules? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2024 12:13:30 GMT
The moment he does so, he is automatically excluded from Labour Party membership under Chapter 2, Clause 1.4.B.iv. Does the Labour Party Rule Book really operate like a magic spell or does he only get excluded when the NEC or a sub-committee rules that he's broken the rules? "A member who commits a Proscribed Act in Chapter 2, Clause I.4.B ceases to be eligible for membership of the Party and his or her membership shall terminate automatically without further notice in the circumstances set out in Chapter 2, Clause I.4.C." |
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Post by philvn on May 23, 2024 12:16:36 GMT
What do we think of his prospects? I thought he had little chance before the Gaza War, but I wonder if he may have a reasonable chance now, if he can harness the people who are prepared to vote on that issue.
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Post by johnloony on May 23, 2024 12:26:37 GMT
Does the Labour Party Rule Book really operate like a magic spell or does he only get excluded when the NEC or a sub-committee rules that he's broken the rules? "A member who commits a Proscribed Act in Chapter 2, Clause I.4.B ceases to be eligible for membership of the Party and his or her membership shall terminate automatically without further notice in the circumstances set out in Chapter 2, Clause I.4.C." Tim’s point (which you may or may not have missed) is that if a Labour Party member does something which automatically excludes himself from party membership, it doesn’t actually exclude himself until the Labour Party authorities (the CLP? The NEC? whichever) notice that he has done so. Or, if the exclusion is automatic and instantaneous, it still has to be noticed by, or communicated to, the Labour Party authorities. Unless there is some sort of quantum-entanglement between the action by the member and the Borg-mind which assimilates the actions of members. |
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Post by right on May 23, 2024 12:27:02 GMT
What do we think of his prospects? I thought he had little chance before the Gaza War, but I wonder if he may have a reasonable chance now, if he can harness the people who are prepared to vote on that issue. His chances must be good. He's well known in the constituency, he's got a machine of sorts and he'll automatically be the second party in this constituency - and likely seen as such - so it's unlikely that a third party squeeze could work here. |
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Post by joe on May 23, 2024 12:28:18 GMT
The Times saying Corbyn is expected to announce his candidacy soon. Should be a fascinating battle. if he dose this will become London's most interesting seat |
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Post by greatkingrat on May 23, 2024 12:36:01 GMT
Does the Labour Party Rule Book really operate like a magic spell or does he only get excluded when the NEC or a sub-committee rules that he's broken the rules? "A member who commits a Proscribed Act in Chapter 2, Clause I.4.B ceases to be eligible for membership of the Party and his or her membership shall terminate automatically without further notice in the circumstances set out in Chapter 2, Clause I.4.C." and Clause I.4.C says "The membership of a member who has committed a Proscribed Act under Chapter 2, Clause I.4.B shall terminate on the date on which the General Secretary or a national officer of the Party receives: iv) A copy of any written or electronic document, in any medium including video or audio recordings, that records a member’s declaration to stand in opposition to a Party candidate in a public election." So the membership doesn't technically end until the national party is made aware of Corbyn's candidature (which admittedly won't take long in this case!) |
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Post by graham on May 23, 2024 13:26:22 GMT
What do we think of his prospects? I thought he had little chance before the Gaza War, but I wonder if he may have a reasonable chance now, if he can harness the people who are prepared to vote on that issue. I have a contact with a CLP member there who less than a month ago predicted that Corbyn will 'walk it.' |
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