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Post by finsobruce on Apr 1, 2024 14:50:06 GMT
Only Nellist was really a left wing rebel though. Taverne was of course proto SDP, Milne it was at least partially about local / council issues, and if I recall rightly, Davies was deselected because of his age (and the local party sort of had the last laugh in that he passed away within a year and Labour comfortably regained the seat in the resulting by-election). Only Nellist really fits the Corbyn template And Nellist was of course a member of another party, whereas Corbyn was 'associated' with Labour Briefing but apparently did not inhale. |
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Post by john07 on Apr 2, 2024 17:43:40 GMT
I knew Nellist quite well. Apparently he lost his job in the Coventry car industry for 'political reasons'. In reality, he was sacked for bad timekeeping. He then reverted to being a full-time Militant apparatchik as well as running discos.
I don't see much connection between Corbyn and Nellist. Corbyn would not have lasted 5 minutes in the rigidly controlled Militant environment. Nellist, by contrast, revelled in it.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 1, 2024 0:59:34 GMT
Notional results since 1945. The 2019 result is the 'official' (Thrasher & Rallings) notional - the others are my own work, but the boundaries are unchanged since 1983 | | Con | Lab | Lib | New Lib | | | | | | | | 1945 | 34.1% | 65.9% | | | | 1950 | 37.5% | 56.4% | 6.2% | | | 1951 | 41.1% | 58.9% | | | | 1955 | 40.5% | 59.5% | | | | 1959 | 44.3% | 55.7% | | | | 1964 | 31.0% | 53.8% | 12.1% | 3.0% | | 1966 | 30.6% | 58.4% | 9.3% | 1.7% |
| | Con | Lab | Lib/LD | NF/BNP | Grn | Ind Lab | | | | | | | | | | 1970 | 37.5% | 59.3% | | 3.2% | | | | 1974 | 26.1% | 51.7% | 19.3% | 1.7% | | | | 1974 | 25.6% | 57.4% | 13.5% | 2.2% | | | | 1979 | 35.1% | 51.7% | 8.7% | 2.4% | | | | 1983 | 25.3% | 40.4% | 22.4% | 0.5% | | 11.1% | | 1987 | 25.3% | 50.0% | 21.8% | | 2.9% | | | 1992 | 23.7% | 57.4% | 15.1% | | 3.8% | |
| | Con | Lab | LD | Grn | Ref/UKIP/
BXP | | | | | | | | | 1997 | 12.9% | 69.3% | 13.6% | 4.2% | | | 2001 | 10.8% | 61.9% | 19.0% | 6.2% | | | 2005 | 11.9% | 51.2% | 29.9% | 7.1% | | | 2010 | 14.2% | 54.5% | 26.7% | 3.0% | 1.6% | | 2015 | 17.2% | 60.2% | 8.1% | 10.2% | 4.0% | | 2017 | 12.5% | 73.0% | 9.0% | 4.1% | 0.8% | | 2019 | 10.2% | 64.3% | 15.6% | 8.0% | 1.4% |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 15, 2024 15:04:51 GMT
Nominations have opened to be the Labour candidate in this seat. labour.org.uk/updates/members-updates/governance-legal-hub-candidate-selections/Applications open Tuesday 15 May 2024 Applications close Monday 20 May 2024 Shortlisting Wednesday 22 May 2024 Postal ballot opens Friday 24 May 2024 Online ballot opens Saturday 25 May 2024 Online hustings Wednesday 29 May 2024 Ballot closes Saturday 1st June 2024 |
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Post by right on May 15, 2024 15:48:33 GMT
Nominations have opened to be the Labour candidate in this seat. labour.org.uk/updates/members-updates/governance-legal-hub-candidate-selections/Applications open Tuesday 15 May 2024 Applications close Monday 20 May 2024 Shortlisting Wednesday 22 May 2024 Postal ballot opens Friday 24 May 2024 Online ballot opens Saturday 25 May 2024 Online hustings Wednesday 29 May 2024 Ballot closes Saturday 1st June 2024 |
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Post by batman on May 15, 2024 16:04:41 GMT
Christian is a member of Islington N CLP. He is pretty elderly to be starting a parliamentary career, having been as I understand it born the same year as Jeremy Corbyn. In fact, were he to be selected & then win the seat, I'm quite sure he would be comfortably the oldest first-time MP ever.
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Post by stb12 on May 15, 2024 16:12:39 GMT
Christian is a member of Islington N CLP. He is pretty elderly to be starting a parliamentary career, having been as I understand it born the same year as Jeremy Corbyn. In fact, were he to be selected & then win the seat, I'm quite sure he would be comfortably the oldest first-time MP ever. Time for a young man from the Richmond CLP to apply I think! |
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Post by nyx on May 15, 2024 17:03:19 GMT
Christian is a member of Islington N CLP. He is pretty elderly to be starting a parliamentary career, having been as I understand it born the same year as Jeremy Corbyn. In fact, were he to be selected & then win the seat, I'm quite sure he would be comfortably the oldest first-time MP ever. Oldest first time MPs by general election: 2015: Marie Rimmer (Lab, 68), Roger Mullin (SNP, 67) 2017: Bill Grant (Con, 65) 2019: Mick Whitley (Lab, 68), Jo Gideon (Con, 67) Christian Wolmar is 74 (turning 75 in August) so would probably break the record unless there was an unusually old MP in the past who I've forgotten about. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 15, 2024 18:51:08 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on May 15, 2024 19:09:51 GMT
Christian is a member of Islington N CLP. He is pretty elderly to be starting a parliamentary career, having been as I understand it born the same year as Jeremy Corbyn. In fact, were he to be selected & then win the seat, I'm quite sure he would be comfortably the oldest first-time MP ever. Oldest first time MPs by general election: 2015: Marie Rimmer (Lab, 68), Roger Mullin (SNP, 67) 2017: Bill Grant (Con, 65) 2019: Mick Whitley (Lab, 68), Jo Gideon (Con, 67) Christian Wolmar is 74 (turning 75 in August) so would probably break the record unless there was an unusually old MP in the past who I've forgotten about. Frank Smith was 75 when he won Nuneaton for Labour in the General Election of 1929, having stood for parliament on many previous occasions.
William Hicks-Beach was 74 (although contemporary newspapers say 75) when elected as Conservative MP for Tewkesbury in the 1916 by election, caused by the death of his nephew Michael Hicks Beach on active service in Egypt.
Robert Pullar was 79  when elected as Liberal MP for Perth in the 1907 by election.
There have also been a couple of 73 year old first timers, and I wouldn't be surprised if in the mists of time, there was someone even older than Pullar .
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Post by batman on May 15, 2024 19:17:22 GMT
Christian is a member of Islington N CLP. He is pretty elderly to be starting a parliamentary career, having been as I understand it born the same year as Jeremy Corbyn. In fact, were he to be selected & then win the seat, I'm quite sure he would be comfortably the oldest first-time MP ever. Time for a young man from the Richmond CLP to apply I think! I'm tempted but I think not  If I ever apply for a seat again, it will be one with which I have strong links, and Islington North isn't one of them. |
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Post by stb12 on May 15, 2024 19:34:18 GMT
Time for a young man from the Richmond CLP to apply I think! I'm tempted but I think not If I ever apply for a seat again, it will be one with which I have strong links, and Islington North isn't one of them. Such a safe seat would generally get all sorts of applications from all over you’d think, but the possibility of dealing with an independent Corbyn campaign may make some think twice? |
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Post by wallington on May 15, 2024 20:01:15 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on May 15, 2024 21:43:27 GMT
Another possible applicant:
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Post by batman on May 15, 2024 21:56:03 GMT
Fuck no
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on May 15, 2024 22:26:28 GMT
Another possible applicant: The Unicode Consortium is going to wonder why there's been such a spike in use of the popcorn emoji. |
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 16, 2024 9:34:23 GMT
I'm tempted but I think not If I ever apply for a seat again, it will be one with which I have strong links, and Islington North isn't one of them. Such a safe seat would generally get all sorts of applications from all over you’d think, but the possibility of dealing with an independent Corbyn campaign may make some think twice? I'd not touch it with a barge pole personally. Whatever Corbyn's short comings - and there are plenty - it seems to me that he has always had a good reputation as a constituency MP. If the reason for blocking his candidacy is that it wouldn't be good for him to be endorsed, then surely other MPs ought to find their positions in question as well? Tories or LDs have zero chance of winning Islington N, so the public have a free vote, without risking 'the other side' getting in. |
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Post by stb12 on May 16, 2024 9:41:04 GMT
Such a safe seat would generally get all sorts of applications from all over you’d think, but the possibility of dealing with an independent Corbyn campaign may make some think twice? I'd not touch it with a barge pole personally. Whatever Corbyn's short comings - and there are plenty - it seems to me that he has always had a good reputation as a constituency MP. If the reason for blocking his candidacy is that it wouldn't be good for him to be endorsed, then surely other MPs ought to find their positions in question as well? Tories or LDs have zero chance of winning Islington N, so the public have a free vote, without risking 'the other side' getting in. The reason is that someone without the party whip can’t be endorsed more than anything else surely? I know there’s a wider factional debate on the fairness of that in the first place but it‘s the logical conclusion |
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Post by graham on May 16, 2024 9:46:39 GMT
A contact I have from the CLP has no doubt whatsoever that Corbyn will 'walk it' as an Independent - and seriously doubts that the official Labour candidate will even be runner-up.
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Post by stb12 on May 16, 2024 10:19:56 GMT
A contact I have from the CLP has no doubt whatsoever that Corbyn will 'walk it' as an Independent - and seriously doubts that the official Labour candidate will even be runner-up. Although that may not be a totally unbiased opinion assuming he still has a lot of friends in the CLP |
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when elected as Liberal MP for Perth in the 1907 by election. 
If I ever apply for a seat again, it will be one with which I have strong links, and Islington North isn't one of them.
