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Post by gerrardwinstanley on Jul 8, 2024 8:36:02 GMT
Given that it is a university constituency it would be bloody hard to. Some on Feinstein's campaign forgot this, but (alas) most of the students had gone home by poling day. If not, Holborn & St Pancras would've been closer I think. While, of course, Holborn & St Pancras contains most of London's higher educational institutions, not that many students actually live in the constituency, especially after first year. Most can't afford to live in Holborn & St Pancras, so generally move to places like Holloway.
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jul 8, 2024 10:43:32 GMT
Was not aware of Pritt. Fascinating, thank you. I'd agree this looks, on the face of it, to be better than Corbyn's achievement, however I do doubt that Pritt had seven years of constant vilification from his own party and from the national media and so it's debatable. Didn't the right wing rags support appeasement of Hitler back in the 30s? Maybe they didn't put a target on Pritt's back, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did! As did Stalin, and Corbyn's parents
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 8, 2024 12:05:43 GMT
While, of course, Holborn & St Pancras contains most of London's higher educational institutions, not that many students actually live in the constituency, especially after first year. The census disagrees.
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Post by gerrardwinstanley on Jul 8, 2024 12:37:16 GMT
While, of course, Holborn & St Pancras contains most of London's higher educational institutions, not that many students actually live in the constituency, especially after first year. The census disagrees. Do you mind linking me to the data, I would be interested in taking a look.
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Post by OWL on Jul 8, 2024 16:41:46 GMT
Here's where I've seen 29% before in Islington North. Highbury won't be Corbyn's best result though. I *could* see Corbyn matching the Greens' '22 IN vote share but winning in Finsbury Park (where he lives and which has a large Muslim population) instead of Highbury. I'm revising my prediction and I think Labour will win in Highbury, Tufnell Park and probably Hillrise. Mildmay (SE on this map) is tough for Corbyn (it's gentrified) The bits of Highgate in Junction probably help Labour. Tollington, Finsbury Park and Arsenal probably go to Corbyn whoever wins (lots of renters in ex-council flats esp.). Holloway and FP seem heavily Muslim nowadays. Corbyn won by 14%. IMHO, Labour won Arsenal, Highbury, Tufnell Park and Mildmay. Tufnell Park was where I saw the most support for Labour. Highbury has many commuters. Arsenal is gentrifying. Mildmay has impressive housing next to Canonbury station - loads of white collar professionals. Corbyn will have won everywhere else, IMO. Arsenal, Highbury and Mildmay are the southeastern wards while Tufnell Park is the most southwesterly ward on the map. A 4-4 north-south split, I think Would be interesting to compare to estimates of the 2019 Euro elections (Labour v. Lib Dem).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 16:46:02 GMT
While, of course, Holborn & St Pancras contains most of London's higher educational institutions, not that many students actually live in the constituency, especially after first year. The census disagrees. Yes. In terms of transport links the busses between Holloway and UCL, King's, LSE aren't that great. You've got the 19 and the 17 TfL buses but they take a long time. I suppose you could take the tube from Holborn to Caledonian Road and Barnsbury or Holloway or Arsenal, but all those tube journeys can add up money-wise. A lot of students live around Camden Town and, as I've mentioned, ex-council flats around Euston way. Said flats are perfectly doable and Borrowdale was decent in parts when we canvassed the Regents Park Estate. Remember to that the wealthier students will live in purpose built student blocks such as the various Unite group buildings in the constituency (a new one opened up near the Regent's Canal a couple of years ago. A lot of students like to be within a quick Lime bike or bus of the uni to save money so yes, plenty of them live in Camden. Some of the wealthier ones will even live in Bloomsbury itself, and I know a fair few who locked in low rents during Covid-19 in 2020.
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Post by Ports on Jul 8, 2024 17:00:07 GMT
Remember to that the wealthier students will live in purpose built student blocks such as the various Unite group buildings in the constituency (a new one opened up near the Regent's Canal a couple of years ago. [b In my travels around London there are many times it's not been clear to me which university such buildings are aimed at, even allowing for the fact they are not restricted to a particular university. For example there is one adjacent to Tottenham Hale station which I assume is aimed at London Met further down the Victoria line, but it's still a fair distance and a surprising location.
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Post by gerrardwinstanley on Jul 8, 2024 17:37:43 GMT
Yes. In terms of transport links the busses between Holloway and UCL, King's, LSE aren't that great. You've got the 19 and the 17 TfL buses but they take a long time. I suppose you could take the tube from Holborn to Caledonian Road and Barnsbury or Holloway or Arsenal, but all those tube journeys can add up money-wise. A lot of students live around Camden Town and, as I've mentioned, ex-council flats around Euston way. Said flats are perfectly doable and Borrowdale was decent in parts when we canvassed the Regents Park Estate. Remember to that the wealthier students will live in purpose built student blocks such as the various Unite group buildings in the constituency (a new one opened up near the Regent's Canal a couple of years ago. A lot of students like to be within a quick Lime bike or bus of the uni to save money so yes, plenty of them live in Camden. Some of the wealthier ones will even live in Bloomsbury itself, and I know a fair few who locked in low rents during Covid-19 in 2020. Holloway to UCL (and King's and LSE) is an incredibly easy bus journey - there's the 29 or 91, as well as the ones you mentioned. I am not arguing students don't live more centrally, but there are plenty of students, particularly home ones, who can't afford Camden any more, let alone Bloomsbury. The areas as you go further up are the Camden Road are very popular, because of the 29!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 18:30:29 GMT
Yes. In terms of transport links the busses between Holloway and UCL, King's, LSE aren't that great. You've got the 19 and the 17 TfL buses but they take a long time. I suppose you could take the tube from Holborn to Caledonian Road and Barnsbury or Holloway or Arsenal, but all those tube journeys can add up money-wise. A lot of students live around Camden Town and, as I've mentioned, ex-council flats around Euston way. Said flats are perfectly doable and Borrowdale was decent in parts when we canvassed the Regents Park Estate. Remember to that the wealthier students will live in purpose built student blocks such as the various Unite group buildings in the constituency (a new one opened up near the Regent's Canal a couple of years ago. A lot of students like to be within a quick Lime bike or bus of the uni to save money so yes, plenty of them live in Camden. Some of the wealthier ones will even live in Bloomsbury itself, and I know a fair few who locked in low rents during Covid-19 in 2020. Holloway to UCL (and King's and LSE) is an incredibly easy bus journey - there's the 29 or 91, as well as the ones you mentioned. I am not arguing students don't live more centrally, but there are plenty of students, particularly home ones, who can't afford Camden any more, let alone Bloomsbury. The areas as you go further up are the Camden Road are very popular, because of the 29! Fair enough. My UCL friend lived in Camden and then Haringey, which is an unusual choice for UCL people. A lot of isn't affordable but I guess you might find some decent student houses in Kentish Town, but that area is gentrifying in spades (look at the Green vote in 2022) and becoming pretty expensive itself (good tube links). I think Haverstock Hill area is probably affordable still - pretty run down in parts and doesn't feel yuppified (it only has Gospel Oak overground).
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Post by Clark on Jul 8, 2024 19:04:45 GMT
When Channel 4 interviewed Corbyn on their election night programme, studio guest Harriet Harman asked him a question and her attitude towards him stank. She was totally classless and came across as a horrible individual. I have zero admiration for her.
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Post by bsjmcr on Jul 8, 2024 22:49:13 GMT
When Channel 4 interviewed Corbyn on their election night programme, studio guest Harriet Harman asked him a question and her attitude towards him stank. She was totally classless and came across as a horrible individual. I have zero admiration for her. Lol, I do have time for her and feel she didn't have to retire (when you look at a certain President or even former Democrat Speaker...), but what you say does sort of confirm the 'Corbyn is living rent free in their head' meme...
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Post by norflondon on Jul 8, 2024 23:28:36 GMT
The very upper middle class Harman is somewhat typical of many in the Lab centre right. Well off and never struggled for money for a single second of their life, little wonder Corbyn frightened their horses.
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Post by john07 on Jul 8, 2024 23:45:21 GMT
The very upper middle class Harman is somewhat typical of many in the Lab centre right. Well off and never struggled for money for a single second of their life, little wonder Corbyn frightened their horses. Like Corbyn comes from an impoverished family.! He went to a prep school and a private grammar school in Newport, Shropshire.
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Post by Jack on Jul 8, 2024 23:52:11 GMT
When Channel 4 interviewed Corbyn on their election night programme, studio guest Harriet Harman asked him a question and her attitude towards him stank. She was totally classless and came across as a horrible individual. I have zero admiration for her. I mean, he did lead her party to one of the worst election results they've ever had. I'm not sure why she would be happy to see him.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 8, 2024 23:54:30 GMT
Ah yes because the Labour Party mainstream is so devoid of people from very humble backgrounds. Absurdity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 3:02:47 GMT
I hope that Jeremy Corbyn wins in 2029 and we get Corbyn as Father of the House. It's fantastic that Diane is Mother of the House already. She's great in that role.
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Post by norflondon on Jul 9, 2024 7:29:13 GMT
He won by 8000, is much loved; cherished, and does a lot for his constituents, I can see him continuing in Islington North until the 2033/4 general election when due to old age he'll finally retire.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 7:58:27 GMT
Yes. He could go full on Chuck Grassley and stick around til 2044! Or just Sanders-style, carrying on until 2039. Fingers crossed. He's a rock solid constituency MP
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Post by aargauer on Jul 9, 2024 8:07:04 GMT
I wonder if he will end up leading the various gaza independents.
He could cause labour a few problems if he was so minded. I suspect he's really more interesting in chatting shit in Islington.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 8:15:05 GMT
Vermont 1990
Sanders (I) 56% Runner-up 39.5% Democrat 3.01% Others 1.47%
Islington North 2024
Corbyn (I) 49.2% Runner-up 34.4% Green 5.4% Conservative 4% Lib Dem 3.4% Other 0.1%
Frenchs style second round: Corbyn 55% Labour 45%.
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