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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 4, 2024 22:02:56 GMT
Others could include the 18 Northern Ireland seats and one other. That could be one seat for Galloway or independents. Speaker?
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Post by john07 on Jul 4, 2024 22:05:31 GMT
Others could include the 18 Northern Ireland seats and one other. That could be one seat for Galloway or independents. Speaker? Drat! Forgot about him.
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Post by carolus on Jul 4, 2024 22:08:50 GMT
Exit poll Conservative 131 Labour 410 SNP 10 Liberal Democrats 56 Plaid Cymru 4 Green 2 Reform 13 Others 19 ...appears to be suggesting no independents winning It does have islington North as too close to call. Rochdale projection should probably be ignored as they haven't accounted for byelections. And Ashfield is 50:50 Lab:Other (i.e. not reform)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2024 22:51:16 GMT
How does an exit poll account for results like this? I'm not saying Corbyn is guaranteed to get oner the line here, but curious how exit polls deal with Indies.
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Post by Ports on Jul 4, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
How does an exit poll account for results like this? They don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2024 22:52:57 GMT
How does an exit poll account for results like this? They don't. I thought not.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jul 4, 2024 22:54:20 GMT
How does an exit poll account for results like this? I'm not saying Corbyn is guaranteed to get oner the line here, but curious how exit polls deal with Indies. Basically, they don't. Exit polls are pretty good on the big two, less so for the Lib Dems, and struggle with SNP/PC and smaller parties. And for Independents hopeless.
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Post by YL on Jul 4, 2024 23:14:51 GMT
Corbyn may be slightly ahead:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2024 23:19:24 GMT
Corbyn may be slightly ahead: I think Labour would he happy with this because it probably means that Corbyn fucks off next time.
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Post by norflondon on Jul 5, 2024 4:24:35 GMT
Corbyn wins easily and the Left in Britain breathes a sigh of relief
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Post by right on Jul 5, 2024 14:29:52 GMT
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Post by andrea on Jul 5, 2024 16:23:03 GMT
Declaration
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Post by John Chanin on Jul 5, 2024 17:45:27 GMT
Pleased that Jeremy Corbyn won, both because he is a nice bloke, and because he has been badly treated by Labour.
Which doesn't mean I agree with all of his views......
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jul 5, 2024 20:00:09 GMT
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Post by redtony on Jul 5, 2024 20:14:59 GMT
As a candidate Corbyn has not lost a single election
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Post by johnloony on Jul 6, 2024 2:10:41 GMT
Pleased that Jeremy Corbyn won (1), both because he is a nice bloke(2), and because he has been badly treated by Labour.(3) Which doesn't mean I agree with all of his views(4)...... 1. I’m not 2. No he isn’t 3. No he hasn’t 4. I agree with that bit but not the other 3
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 6, 2024 9:04:30 GMT
Corbyn has a potentially interesting decision to take - where to sit in the House of Commons. Since 2020 he's sat on the opposition side's furthest back bench, below the gangway - a traditional spot for Independent MPs, but also next to where some Labour MPs on the left sit. He could return there, probably sitting next to the Independent Gaza motivated MPs.
But if he sees himself as an Independent Labour MP, it wouldn't be impossible to choose to sit on the back bench of the government side. That way he would stay next to the left-wing Labour MPs.
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Post by norflondon on Jul 6, 2024 9:06:16 GMT
If he's really feeling naughty he will sit on the front bench. AFAIK there's nowt stopping him!
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Post by mattbewilson on Jul 6, 2024 9:29:17 GMT
The observation of Jeremy's character is an odd one, I don't know him personally so couldn't comment but maybe others know him better.
I suppose it doesn't really matter if he's nice or not, or if he's been treated badly or not. It's what his constituents think. If they voted for him because they think he's good whether he's labour or not
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jul 6, 2024 9:50:43 GMT
Corbyn has a potentially interesting decision to take - where to sit in the House of Commons. Since 2020 he's sat on the opposition side's furthest back bench, below the gangway - a traditional spot for Independent MPs, but also next to where some Labour MPs on the left sit. He could return there, probably sitting next to the Independent Gaza motivated MPs. But if he sees himself as an Independent Labour MP, it wouldn't be impossible to choose to sit on the back bench of the government side. That way he would stay next to the left-wing Labour MPs. This archaic nonsense is why I think MPs should have designated desks, preferably assigned on a geographical basis.
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