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Post by Sg1 on Jun 28, 2024 19:19:51 GMT
It's not implausible that Islington North could prove to be the most marginal seat in London, which I did not have in my bingo book at the start of the campaign. Having said that, either Corbyn or Labour winning convincingly is probably more likely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 19:23:13 GMT
It's not implausible that Islington North could prove to be the most marginal seat in London, which I did not have in my bingo book at the start of the campaign. Having said that, either Corbyn or Labour winning convincingly is probably more likely. I think the most marginal seats will be: Harrow East (CON hold); Chelsea & Fulham (LAB gain); Chingford & Woodford Green (CON hold); Ilford North (IND gain); Romford (CON hold). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 20:41:12 GMT
It's not implausible that Islington North could prove to be the most marginal seat in London, which I did not have in my bingo book at the start of the campaign. Having said that, either Corbyn or Labour winning convincingly is probably more likely. I think the most marginal seats will be: Harrow East (CON hold); Chelsea & Fulham (LAB gain); Chingford & Woodford Green (CON hold); Ilford North (IND gain); Romford (CON hold). Sorry? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 20:42:44 GMT
I think the most marginal seats will be: Harrow East (CON hold); Chelsea & Fulham (LAB gain); Chingford & Woodford Green (CON hold); Ilford North (IND gain); Romford (CON hold). Sorry? Wes Streeting is going to lose since 1) he's a crap Shadow Health Sec; 2) he's a bad fit for such a heavily Muslim London seat; 3) his opponent is a Palestinian Muslim, |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 20:44:08 GMT
Seriously mate, log off for a few days for your own sake
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Post by right on Jun 28, 2024 20:55:49 GMT
It's not implausible that Islington North could prove to be the most marginal seat in London, which I did not have in my bingo book at the start of the campaign. Having said that, either Corbyn or Labour winning convincingly is probably more likely. I think the most marginal seats will be: Harrow East (CON hold); Chelsea & Fulham (LAB gain); Chingford & Woodford Green (CON hold); Ilford North (IND gain); Romford (CON hold). The Tories will hold Chingford but Romford will be marginal? |
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Post by batman on Jun 28, 2024 21:02:20 GMT
I think the most marginal seats will be: Harrow East (CON hold); Chelsea & Fulham (LAB gain); Chingford & Woodford Green (CON hold); Ilford North (IND gain); Romford (CON hold). The Tories will hold Chingford but Romford will be marginal? I know.......... |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 28, 2024 21:10:26 GMT
Novaras Bastani did a video here here. He walked with Corbyn for 200 metres and eleven different people came up to Corbyn and said hello. Aaron B says given what he saw, the help, the affection for Corbyn, it's "hard to come away and not be certain JC will win".
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 28, 2024 21:58:49 GMT
One of those observations which unintentionally reveals a lot more about the speaker than they intended. If he stopped to think about it for one moment, he might have an insight into the far left's failure to understand the electorate, and consequent failure to win elections.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jun 28, 2024 22:09:57 GMT
"No compromise with the electorate" meets the electorate This would suggest that a lot of Labour voters in Islington North are really, really stupid. They are going to get the Labour government they want regardless of what happens in this constituency. |
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Post by michaelarden on Jun 28, 2024 22:16:41 GMT
I'm very sorry you're campaigning in Holborn. I regard Andrew Feinstein as an anti-Semite & would urge you to reconsider. Yes I do know he's Jewish, that makes no difference I'm afraid. This is interesting to me - and I come from a position of basic ignorance - how can someone Jewish ever be anti-Semitic? Do disagreements in other cultures/religions result in one side being 'othered'? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 28, 2024 22:20:41 GMT
I'm very sorry you're campaigning in Holborn. I regard Andrew Feinstein as an anti-Semite & would urge you to reconsider. Yes I do know he's Jewish, that makes no difference I'm afraid. This is interesting to me - and I come from a position of basic ignorance - how can someone Jewish ever be anti-Semitic? Do disagreements in other cultures/religions result in one side being 'othered'? Black people absorb and internalise racist attitudes from the rest of society. Many gay people have and express homophobic views. Why are you surprised to find some Jews are given to antisemitism? |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 28, 2024 22:32:54 GMT
One of those observations which unintentionally reveals a lot more about the speaker than they intended. If he stopped to think about it for one moment, he might have an insight into the far left's failure to understand the electorate, and consequent failure to win elections. You misunderstand. The revolutionary fervour of the masses is vibrant and palpable, and will overcome the false bourgeois idea of conducting canvassing or sampling or opinion-polling according to outdated reactionary scientific principles. After all, you have to bear in mind that Corbyn has always had the support of "The 99%", and that the tiny minority of 1% who oppose him is nothing more than the ruling classes, the bankers, the businessmen, Conservatives, Blairites, Starmer's reactionary hierarchicalistic Labour Party, revisionists, decadent social democrats, white people, straight people, Zionists, cis people, people who arrogantly refuse to declare their pronouns, short-haired weirdoes, psephologists, scientists, statisticians, people who wear suits and ties, people who live in houses, people who have jobs, people who commute, people who do not knit their own porridge (or even don't eat porridge at all), meat-eaters, lighthouse keepers, veterans, war criminals, tea-drinkers, generals, judges, police officers and field marshals - i.e. those who collectively are only a tiny minority. |
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Post by michaelarden on Jun 28, 2024 22:34:47 GMT
This is interesting to me - and I come from a position of basic ignorance - how can someone Jewish ever be anti-Semitic? Do disagreements in other cultures/religions result in one side being 'othered'? Black people absorb and internalise racist attitudes from the rest of society. Many gay people have and express homophobic views. Why are you surprised to find some Jews are given to antisemitism? No still not getting you. Black people may well 'absorb' attitudes as a result of hundreds of years of slavery and being told they're inferior - but I don't think any of them ever diss their compatriots. I've never met a gay homophobe (and I know it's anecdotal). So why are Jews different? I can't see how peoples suffering from historical oppression don't understand that others in the same boat regardless of belief or situation make them any less Jewish or Catholic or Muslim? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 28, 2024 22:58:43 GMT
I'm very sorry you're campaigning in Holborn. I regard Andrew Feinstein as an anti-Semite & would urge you to reconsider. Yes I do know he's Jewish, that makes no difference I'm afraid. This is interesting to me - and I come from a position of basic ignorance - how can someone Jewish ever be anti-Semitic? Do disagreements in other cultures/religions result in one side being 'othered'? Isn't this partly down to "being Jewish" having various definitions? Religious? Ethnicity? Descent? Community? |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 28, 2024 23:01:11 GMT
On a more general note I think the speeding up and increasing scale of a privateisation of the NHS is unstoppable because - amongst other things - I think politicians realize that one of the attractions of coming to Britain is our free NHS*. If people had to start paying this might help stem the flow of immigration. * although no Lab/Con/ LD MP will say it publicly ofc Paying for a service does not imply privatisation. Surely privatisation is about ownership and the nature of the service provider? |
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Post by john07 on Jun 28, 2024 23:17:33 GMT
On a more general note I think the speeding up and increasing scale of a privateisation of the NHS is unstoppable because - amongst other things - I think politicians realize that one of the attractions of coming to Britain is our free NHS*. If people had to start paying this might help stem the flow of immigration. * although no Lab/Con/ LD MP will say it publicly ofc Paying for a service does not imply privatisation. Surely privatisation is about ownership and the nature of the service provider? But what about all the coal, gas, electricity, bus & rail services, post & telecoms, etc. that everyone got for free up till the 1970s and beyond? |
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Post by batman on Jun 28, 2024 23:29:59 GMT
I'm very sorry you're campaigning in Holborn. I regard Andrew Feinstein as an anti-Semite & would urge you to reconsider. Yes I do know he's Jewish, that makes no difference I'm afraid. This is interesting to me - and I come from a position of basic ignorance - how can someone Jewish ever be anti-Semitic? Do disagreements in other cultures/religions result in one side being 'othered'? would you think that it’s impossible for Suella Braverman to have racist attitudes? It’s really not unusual for people to act in a discriminatory fashion against people who have similar heritages. Jewish people are capable of it just the same. |
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Post by jimboo2017 on Jun 29, 2024 0:39:30 GMT
On a more general note I think the speeding up and increasing scale of a privateisation of the NHS is unstoppable because - amongst other things - I think politicians realize that one of the attractions of coming to Britain is our free NHS*. If people had to start paying this might help stem the flow of immigration. * although no Lab/Con/ LD MP will say it publicly ofc Paying for a service does not imply privatisation. Surely privatisation is about ownership and the nature of the service provider? Majority of Scottish GP's are private |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 1:19:27 GMT
I think the most marginal seats will be: Harrow East (CON hold); Chelsea & Fulham (LAB gain); Chingford & Woodford Green (CON hold); Ilford North (IND gain); Romford (CON hold). The Tories will hold Chingford but Romford will be marginal? Yes because Faiza Shaheen will split the left-wing vote in Chingford but Romford will be marginal because Reform will eat into the Tory vote. |
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