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Post by mattbewilson on Jun 19, 2024 17:56:03 GMT
Jeremy's First 6 Steps? Jeremy's down payment? |
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Post by bsjmcr on Jun 19, 2024 20:06:21 GMT
I like the passive aggressive “I never take donations from private healthcare” aimed at the Labour candidate. |
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Post by batman on Jun 19, 2024 20:24:37 GMT
No, I only take money for appearing on Iranian TV programmes instead.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 19, 2024 20:25:20 GMT
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Post by mattbewilson on Jun 19, 2024 20:35:56 GMT
never campaign for the other side in person, that's amateur |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 19, 2024 20:40:48 GMT
never campaign for the other side in person, that's amateur Surely she should have resigned? |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 19, 2024 20:46:15 GMT
No one likes a snitch.
She might be OK, Labour have readmitted, or not taken any action against, many who campaigned against the party last time, some of who actually stood for another party!
IPSOS's constituency poll has not much changed Ladbrokes view, they go 4/7 Jeremy, implying his % chances are 74%.
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Post by johng on Jun 19, 2024 21:11:43 GMT
never campaign for the other side in person, that's amateur Hiding behind a bush. Pure madness. What was she thinking? Islington North is a very dense seat - it is unlikely that she would not be seen over the campaign. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 19, 2024 23:36:05 GMT
She might be OK, Labour have readmitted, or not taken any action against, many who campaigned against the party last time But it wasn't really Labour last time. |
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Post by john07 on Jun 19, 2024 23:59:03 GMT
She might be OK, Labour have readmitted, or not taken any action against, many who campaigned against the party last time But it wasn't really Labour last time. A more interesting example is that of Ken Livingston who stood as an independent against the Labour candidate for Mayor of Greater London and won. He was subsequently readmitted. |
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Post by nyx on Jun 20, 2024 0:13:16 GMT
She might be OK, Labour have readmitted, or not taken any action against, many who campaigned against the party last time, some of who actually stood for another party! I know someone who was one of the top people running a Green mayoral election campaign this year and local election campaign last year. He got a letter from the local Labour Party quietly asking him to leave the party so they didn't have to deal with the hassle of expulsion- he declined to do so, and as far as I'm aware he's still a Labour member. |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 20, 2024 2:36:24 GMT
never campaign for the other side in person, that's amateur Hiding behind a bush. Pure madness. What was she thinking? Islington North is a very dense seat - it is unlikely that she would not be seen over the campaign. Well, there was definitely evidence of density within the constituency at that moment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2024 6:06:11 GMT
Back to Islington North, I've seen a second Labour poster now. Junction and Finsbury Park wards have extensive Corbyn propaganda, but Tufnell Park Road was more mixed with a Labour sign and a few for Corbyn. A house had a Green poster in one of the gentrified streets just off Tufnell Park Road, N7 (a while back), but that was for the 2022 locals. Sir Robert Chote lives in this seat - he's soon to be President of Trinity College, Oxford - I wonder who he and his wife Sharon White (of John Lewis fame) will vote for come July.
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Post by right on Jun 20, 2024 6:10:14 GMT
But it wasn't really Labour last time. A more interesting example is that of Ken Livingston who stood as an independent against the Labour candidate for Mayor of Greater London and won. He was subsequently readmitted. I suspect that these things are different. Livingston was mayor of London and on course to win again. He brought a potential mid term victory to the table. Outside a hung parliament or a tiny majority Corbyn brings nothing. And his voting would probably only change at the margin if he was readmitted. Also Blair at that point didn't need to convince swing voters that he wasn't Old Labour. I suspect that may never quite happen with Starmer. |
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Post by mattbewilson on Jun 20, 2024 6:23:39 GMT
She might be OK, Labour have readmitted, or not taken any action against, many who campaigned against the party last time But it wasn't really Labour last time. senior lib dem reveals expertise on what is and what isn't labour party |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 20, 2024 7:03:34 GMT
A more interesting example is that of Ken Livingston who stood as an independent against the Labour candidate for Mayor of Greater London and won. He was subsequently readmitted. I suspect that these things are different. Livingston was mayor of London and on course to win again. He brought a potential mid term victory to the table. Outside a hung parliament or a tiny majority Corbyn brings nothing. And his voting would probably only change at the margin if he was readmitted. Also Blair at that point didn't need to convince swing voters that he wasn't Old Labour. I suspect that may never quite happen with Starmer. And will Corbyn be loyal to the Labour whip? History says unlikly. |
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Post by john07 on Jun 20, 2024 9:51:18 GMT
A more interesting example is that of Ken Livingston who stood as an independent against the Labour candidate for Mayor of Greater London and won. He was subsequently readmitted. I suspect that these things are different. Livingston was mayor of London and on course to win again. He brought a potential mid term victory to the table. Outside a hung parliament or a tiny majority Corbyn brings nothing. And his voting would probably only change at the margin if he was readmitted. Also Blair at that point didn't need to convince swing voters that he wasn't Old Labour. I suspect that may never quite happen with Starmer. Livingston was not selected by Labour to run for the new position of Mayor of London. Previously he had been leader of the GLC although was not at the time of his election as Andrew McIntish held that post until a post election coup by Livingston. He won as an Independen and beat Frank Dobson. His second run as Mayor was backed by Labour. |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 20, 2024 11:59:58 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Jun 20, 2024 12:26:59 GMT
Livingston was not selected by Labour to run for the new position of Mayor of London. If memory serves correct, Livingston was the choice of Labour members but some trade union leaders cast block votes to give the nomination to Dobson and Blair lied that it was the same system that had chosen him as leader. Readmitting him was in part about healing the wounds of that mess, as well as Labour avoiding another defeat for whoever their 2004 candidate was. |
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Post by kevinf on Jun 20, 2024 14:20:48 GMT
Livingston was not selected by Labour to run for the new position of Mayor of London. If memory serves correct, Livingston was the choice of Labour members but some trade union leaders cast block votes to give the nomination to Dobson and Blair lied that it was the same system that had chosen him as leader. Readmitting him was in part about healing the wounds of that mess, as well as Labour avoiding another defeat for whoever their 2004 candidate was. …and the Co-op Party nomination for Dobson was disputed too. |
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