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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 16, 2024 14:44:26 GMT
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Post by ricmk on Jun 16, 2024 14:52:14 GMT
...what has happened to this thread 🧐 I think there was a sweepstake on whether it would get to 50 pages...no-one said anything about staying on-topic. |
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Post by YL on Jun 16, 2024 15:10:45 GMT
Back to Islington North, if we accept Rory Stewart's claim: London is 500 villages, Holloway, Highbury etc would have been separate places before the industrial revolution. I'm not sure if Hilmarton and Hillrise were both place names (the first surely was, with the -ton). Gillespie must have been a significant local person. Quadrant and Junction? You can work those out. Upper Holloway and Lower Holloway might have been separate settlements once. Tufnell Park? You know. . Of course there was already quite a lot of development by then, but some of the places you mention can be seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 15:13:48 GMT
Back to Islington North, if we accept Rory Stewart's claim: London is 500 villages, Holloway, Highbury etc would have been separate places before the industrial revolution. I'm not sure if Hilmarton and Hillrise were both place names (the first surely was, with the -ton). Gillespie must have been a significant local person. Quadrant and Junction? You can work those out. Upper Holloway and Lower Holloway might have been separate settlements once. Tufnell Park? You know. . Of course there was already quite a lot of development by then, but some of the places you mention can be seen. Looking at this and thinking about the1978 - 2002 ward names - Gillespie (is that Irish?), Hilmarton, Quadrant etc. Maybe there's nostalgia for Quadrant because it was the last Islington North ward to send a Tory to the town hall (in 1994). |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 16, 2024 15:32:15 GMT
Looking at this and thinking about the1978 - 2002 ward names - Gillespie (is that Irish?), Hilmarton, Quadrant etc. Maybe there's nostalgia for Quadrant because it was the last Islington North ward to send a Tory to the town hall (in 1994). Gillespie is a rendering of a Gaelic surname, and appeared in Ireland and Scotland at roughly the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 15:35:58 GMT
Looking at this and thinking about the1978 - 2002 ward names - Gillespie (is that Irish?), Hilmarton, Quadrant etc. Maybe there's nostalgia for Quadrant because it was the last Islington North ward to send a Tory to the town hall (in 1994). Gillespie is a rendering of a Gaelic surname, and appeared in Ireland and Scotland at roughly the same time.
Some of the old names are going out of fashion here but we still have Junction, which could be renamed 'Archway' or 'Archway and Whitehall Park' or 'Upper Holloway' after the station. 'Junction' could be anywhere - Clapham Junction, Loughborough Junction, Watford Junction, Verney Junction - anywhere. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 16, 2024 15:39:46 GMT
Looking at this and thinking about the1978 - 2002 ward names - Gillespie (is that Irish?), Hilmarton, Quadrant etc. Maybe there's nostalgia for Quadrant because it was the last Islington North ward to send a Tory to the town hall (in 1994). Gillespie is a rendering of a Gaelic surname, and appeared in Ireland and Scotland at roughly the same time.
Arsenal tube station opened as Gillespie Road and that name is still in the wall tiling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 15:45:07 GMT
Back to Islington North, if we accept Rory Stewart's claim: London is 500 villages, Holloway, Highbury etc would have been separate places before the industrial revolution. I'm not sure if Hilmarton and Hillrise were both place names (the first surely was, with the -ton). Gillespie must have been a significant local person. Quadrant and Junction? You can work those out. Upper Holloway and Lower Holloway might have been separate settlements once. Tufnell Park? You know. . Of course there was already quite a lot of development by then, but some of the places you mention can be seen. Woodberry Down still visible with those famous reservoirs that look like eyes! If memory serves, I think they were created in the 1600s along with the New River. It's nice seeing the little clusters of settlements that became London Borough of Islington electoral wards here. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 16, 2024 16:21:44 GMT
Gillespie is a rendering of a Gaelic surname, and appeared in Ireland and Scotland at roughly the same time.
Arsenal tube station opened as Gillespie Road and that name is still in the wall tiling. Indeed, until 1960 it was Arsenal (Highbury Hill), and the tiles are replicas dating from a 2007 renovation of the station.
Most of the housing on Gillespie Road itself dates from the early 1870s.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 16, 2024 17:15:56 GMT
...what has happened to this thread 🧐 I think there was a sweepstake on whether it would get to 50 pages...no-one said anything about staying on-topic. Banging on about topics that have little wider interest is the best tribute we could pay to Corbynism. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 16, 2024 17:19:32 GMT
...what has happened to this thread 🧐 What has happened to @weld ? |
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Jun 16, 2024 17:29:52 GMT
Back to Islington North, if we accept Rory Stewart's claim: London is 500 villages, Holloway, Highbury etc would have been separate places before the industrial revolution. I'm not sure if Hilmarton and Hillrise were both place names (the first surely was, with the -ton). Gillespie must have been a significant local person. Quadrant and Junction? You can work those out. Upper Holloway and Lower Holloway might have been separate settlements once. Tufnell Park? You know. . Of course there was already quite a lot of development by then, but some of the places you mention can be seen. My slightly cynical take on London's 500 villages is that one probably can identify something like that number, but that if one went back to the 18th century (or at least its first half), less than half of them would then have had large enough populations to be regarded as villages. Of the rest, quite a few would have existed as small hamlets with half a dozen or so houses or other buildings, but a lot of them were basically created by property developers in the 19th century (or 18th century if closer to what was then London). As the word "Park" in the placename rather gives away, Tufnell Park seems to have been one of these. Like most such places (though there are exceptions), I can't see any indication that there was anything resembling a park there before housing development started, though at least here the Tufnells seem to have been the family that owned the land on which Tufnell Park was developed (there are quite a few others where the developers just picked a name which they thought would attract housebuyers to the area). Such places were often (as the map rather shows) just about far enough out of London to develop at least something of a village identity (with perhaps a few shops and quite likely one or more churches or equivalent for whichever religious groups had adherents living nearby) for people to have been living in them for a few decades before London entirely swallowed them. |
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Post by batman on Jun 16, 2024 19:39:35 GMT
Woodberry Down still visible with those famous reservoirs that look like eyes! If memory serves, I think they were created in the 1600s along with the New River. It's nice seeing the little clusters of settlements that became London Borough of Islington electoral wards here. New River & Woodberry Down are past & present Hackney wards not Islington ones. My Uncle Nat lived on the Woodberry Down estate. |
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Post by batman on Jun 16, 2024 19:40:10 GMT
...what has happened to this thread 🧐 What has happened to @weld ? somebody dewelded him |
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Post by birkinabe on Jun 17, 2024 12:18:59 GMT
“Stats for Lefties” is crowdfunding for a Survation constituency poll here.
Somewhat old news now, but the crowdfunder has concluded with £6,500 raised:
EDIT: The actual GoFundMe page now seems to be showing it as being £25 short (thanks to evergreenadam for pointing this out in the YouGov thread), though nevertheless an update has been posted to it stating that they've reached their target.
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Post by right on Jun 17, 2024 12:20:13 GMT
“Stats for Lefties” is crowdfunding for a Survation constituency poll here.
Somewhat old news now, but the crowdfunder has concluded with £6,500 raised:
Be funny if it shows he's third |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2024 12:20:26 GMT
Curious to see how close it to my own forecast.
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Post by birkinabe on Jun 17, 2024 12:28:07 GMT
Meanwhile, in an unexpected turn of events, Corbyn has secured the endorsement of *checks notes* his wife: |
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Post by right on Jun 17, 2024 13:43:19 GMT
Meanwhile, in an unexpected turn of events, Corbyn has secured the endorsement of *checks notes* his wife: Which one? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2024 14:35:05 GMT
Meanwhile, in an unexpected turn of events, Corbyn has secured the endorsement of *checks notes* his wife: Which one? Islington has one of the largest proportions of singletons anywhere - I don't think people here give a fuck about divorced candidates or people who re-marry |
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