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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2024 8:51:12 GMT
What on earth makes you contend that the latter would be better or useful or informative? A properly-conducted constituency-level opinion poll of the voting intentions of a thousand people in one constituency would be a better indicator of the likely result than the random prediction of one person with no context. Possibly? I have my doubts. I see a Forum to be for the members to discuss their own thoughts rather than to be a message board for guff from social media or stuff from commerce. I prefer the informed personal views by a member on the spot. These are speculations and guesses. We only have a few days to wait. We don't need to speculate at all. It does no good and solves nothing. An ill-informed personal guess fills up an idle moment quite as well as a daft poll by by some commercial organization. Some of the expensive predictions of seats have been utterly risible and I frankly prefer our own guff to commercial guff. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2024 9:09:43 GMT
As Kipling might have observed, "What do they know of Islington North, who only Islington North know?" Islington is a neighbouring borough. They do things differently there. So don't Go Between the two. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jun 12, 2024 10:38:44 GMT
I live across the road from Corbyn's constituency and lived a stone's throw from Jeremy's stomping ground for two years before moving to Hackney. I apologise wholehearedty to anyone who thought I was a pollster. Im 27 and don't ave the £££££ to conduct a pol, sorry. Apologies for not making it clearer my post was a forecast/hot take/prediction (delete as appropriate). You don't need to apologise. It was quite obvious that your post was a prediction and nobody with even the slightest degree of intelligence and common sense thought that you were reporting the findings of an opinion poll. |
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Post by right on Jun 12, 2024 10:44:49 GMT
I live across the road from Corbyn's constituency and lived a stone's throw from Jeremy's stomping ground for two years before moving to Hackney. I apologise wholehearedty to anyone who thought I was a pollster. Im 27 and don't ave the £££££ to conduct a pol, sorry. Apologies for not making it clearer my post was a forecast/hot take/prediction (delete as appropriate). You don't need to apologise. It was quite obvious that your post was a prediction and nobody with even the slightest degree of intelligence and common sense thought that you were reporting the findings of an opinion poll. For those of us without the slightest degree of intelligence or common sense it would be nice to be told its predictive status |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2024 11:12:40 GMT
A properly-conducted constituency-level opinion poll of the voting intentions of a thousand people in one constituency would be a better indicator of the likely result than the random prediction of one person with no context. Possibly? I have my doubts. I see a Forum to be for the members to discuss their own thoughts rather than to be a message board for guff from social media or stuff from commerce. I prefer the informed personal views by a member on the spot. These are speculations and guesses. We only have a few days to wait. We don't need to speculate at all. It does no good and solves nothing. An ill-informed personal guess fills up an idle moment quite as well as a daft poll by by some commercial organization. Some of the expensive predictions of seats have been utterly risible and I frankly prefer our own guff to commercial guff. Spot on. How did the polls before the 2015 election or the EU referendum work out? |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2024 11:50:48 GMT
Possibly? I have my doubts. I see a Forum to be for the members to discuss their own thoughts rather than to be a message board for guff from social media or stuff from commerce. I prefer the informed personal views by a member on the spot. These are speculations and guesses. We only have a few days to wait. We don't need to speculate at all. It does no good and solves nothing. An ill-informed personal guess fills up an idle moment quite as well as a daft poll by by some commercial organization. Some of the expensive predictions of seats have been utterly risible and I frankly prefer our own guff to commercial guff. Spot on. How did the polls before the 2015 election or the EU referendum work out? I don't pay much attention to anything other than trend over time and I can't remember those instances. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2024 12:33:04 GMT
You don't need to apologise. It was quite obvious that your post was a prediction and nobody with even the slightest degree of intelligence and common sense thought that you were reporting the findings of an opinion poll. For those of us without the slightest degree of intelligence or common sense it would be nice to be told its predictive status But why should we bother if you confess to having not the slightest degree of intelligence or common sense? |
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Post by right on Jun 12, 2024 12:41:15 GMT
For those of us without the slightest degree of intelligence or common sense it would be nice to be told its predictive status But why should we bother if you confess to having not the slightest degree of intelligence or common sense? I'm not bothered if I'm just droning into the ether |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2024 12:51:10 GMT
But why should we bother if you confess to having not the slightest degree of intelligence or common sense? I'm not bothered if I'm just droning into the ether Ah!! You have noticed it too?! |
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Post by right on Jun 12, 2024 12:54:34 GMT
I'm not bothered if I'm just droning into the ether Ah!! You have noticed it too?! I would if you didn't reply so often |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 5:57:37 GMT
Corbyn rally here on Saturday (Navigator Square).
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Post by cogload on Jun 15, 2024 12:16:18 GMT
I wonder how much voter id Jezza has? Especially postal voter Id.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 21:38:40 GMT
Corbyn's rally was well-attended, as you'd expect (but many attendees will be from outside the constituency. I saw the first Labour poster in the seat yesterday (on Tufnell Park Road), but Corbyn posters dominate that ward, one of the more well-heeled in the seat (source: I had a client in the area for a while). I think Highbury and Tufnell Park may be slightly weaker for Corbyn since they have more City workers than other parts of the seat. However, his Assad margins in places like Finsbury Park (with its large Muslim population) easily deliver him victory on July 4th.
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Post by bsjmcr on Jun 15, 2024 23:26:42 GMT
Corbyn's rally was well-attended, as you'd expect (but many attendees will be from outside the constituency. I saw the first Labour poster in the seat yesterday (on Tufnell Park Road), but Corbyn posters dominate that ward, one of the more well-heeled in the seat (source: I had a client in the area for a while). I think Highbury and Tufnell Park may be slightly weaker for Corbyn since they have more City workers than other parts of the seat. However, his Assad margins in places like Finsbury Park (with its large Muslim population) easily deliver him victory on July 4th. Why is this not in Islington South and Finsbury? To an ignorant northerner, the mind boggles... |
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Post by nyx on Jun 15, 2024 23:53:31 GMT
Corbyn's rally was well-attended, as you'd expect (but many attendees will be from outside the constituency. I saw the first Labour poster in the seat yesterday (on Tufnell Park Road), but Corbyn posters dominate that ward, one of the more well-heeled in the seat (source: I had a client in the area for a while). I think Highbury and Tufnell Park may be slightly weaker for Corbyn since they have more City workers than other parts of the seat. However, his Assad margins in places like Finsbury Park (with its large Muslim population) easily deliver him victory on July 4th. Why is this not in Islington South and Finsbury? To an ignorant northerner, the mind boggles... Just wait til you find out about Loughborough Junction, which is in fact in London and not in Loughborough. The answer to your question is that Finsbury is a small area in inner London immediately north of the City of London; in the 19th century it also referred to a larger region (the Finsbury division of Middlesex) which gave its name to the Finsbury parliamentary constituency. This consisted of essentially all of what was then the built up area north of the city of London, including Islington etc. The park of Finsbury Park was constructed in the 1860s on the northern edge of the Finsbury division, what was then the northern edge of the London urban area. That was three miles north of Finsbury proper, which was on the southern edge of the Finsbury division. In 1900 the Finsbury division was abolished, with the name starting to refer to a much smaller Metropolitan Borough of Finsbury consisting only of Finsbury proper. That borough was eventually merged into Islington in the 1960s. The Finsbury parliamentary constituency gradually shrunk down to a similar area too. Meanwhile the name "Finsbury Park" had started to be used for the growing urban area around the park of the same name, three miles to the north. |
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Post by john07 on Jun 16, 2024 0:03:45 GMT
Why is this not in Islington South and Finsbury? To an ignorant northerner, the mind boggles... Just wait til you find out about Loughborough Junction, which is in fact in London and not in Loughborough. And Watford Gap is nowhere near Watford. |
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Post by nyx on Jun 16, 2024 0:07:05 GMT
Just wait til you find out about Loughborough Junction, which is in fact in London and not in Loughborough. And Watford Gap is nowhere near Watford. When I was a child I used to assume Buckingham Palace was in Buckingham. Was quite surprised when I first discovered that wasn't the case. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 16, 2024 0:08:44 GMT
Just wait til you find out about Loughborough Junction, which is in fact in London and not in Loughborough. And Watford Gap is nowhere near Watford. Scotch Corner is not near Scotland Nor are Rhodesia and Wales (a few miles east of Sheffield) in Africa or on the Irish Sea coast. |
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Post by batman on Jun 16, 2024 1:39:26 GMT
And it also comes as a surprise that Palestine is in Hampshire (Romsey and North Southampton I think?) and that Mount Florida is in south Glasgow.
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